If he’s been calling and messaging her for weeks and getting no reply, it’s OVER! If he keeps pursuing her, he just looks DESPERATE and will push her away even more. He needs to get on with his life and go out with friends etc.
So Leslie’s sympathy turns into today’s callousness. Yesterday I thought Gunther was giving Bets all the space she needed by not calling her. but he has been calling her all along. Maybe it is time to move along. Or call on a “woman” friend for advice on the ways of love. Who would be the worst person in the world to ask advice from. Aside from Luann, of course. Someone Morlock has been shipping since forever.
Aw, disappointed in you, Les. You don’t want to hear his whines and are gonna abandon him. You looked promising for personal growth and maturity. At least, you did not heckle him or insult him. There’s that small step in the right direction.
Gunther, consider the facts, Bet’s has manipulated and used emotional blackmail to control you since day one…and she’s just your girlfriend; imagine your life with Bets as your wife? Or are you so insecure, needy and maschocistic that it seems like love to you? Well, I guess the answer to that one is pretty obvious.
Dating 101. Never profess your love until you get physical with her first. Touch her in a non sexual way to test her readiness, and if she resist, just go “Oh sorry, I was brought up this way”, and if she goes into hiding, then it becomes her problem.
You see? Les has returned to his predictable old self, just like I knew he would.
But I’ll admit. I was wrong yesterday.
Les didn’t offer Gunther bad advice.
He’s not offering Gunther ANY advice whatsoever, which is a Good thing.
Now, ordinarily with Mr. Knox leaving, I would say that this is a perfect opportunity for Bets to come over, and for her have that long overdue, uninterrupted, Private conversation with Gunther.
Or better still, for Les to go the Fuse, and loudly blab about Gunny’s plight. Tiffany (Or Luann) overhears, leaves work early and heads to the Gulag to “comfort” Gunny, “time limit” free.
That WON’T happen.
Since it’s Gunther, what probably Will happen is Al Gray calling over to Bark at Gunther saying:
“Knock off the whining! You’re making so much noise that Moe can’t sleep! Don’t make Me come over there!!!”
Interesting parallels here. B goes all to pieces over what she thinks was her unwanted declaration of possible love (and possible demonstration of her low morals), and turns to Nancy. But not for advice — just as a sounding board, since (for whatever reason), B can’t turn to her own mother. Gunther goes to pieces after HIS obviously unwanted declaration of love, and, lacking anyone else to turn to, actually is asking advice from someone who used to be his nemesis. (To his credit, Les doesn’t make fun of Gunther, but most guys don’t seem to be in the ‘advice to the lovelorn’ business.) We’ll never know what Luann might have said to B when Luann started asking when B was going to ‘fix’ her problem with Nil, so there’s no reason for everyone to conclude that Luann would either be the worst person for Gunther to turn to, or possibly a helper. But Gunther COULD turn to Nancy — or even to his OWN mother. If I remember right, his mother didn’t trust Bets’ motives any more than Nancy trusted Toni’s…
He needs to go to her Instagram account or website and see what she has been posting. It could be that she already has a new “boy toy” she features in her pictures. An influencer like that can’t stop posting without losing her followers and fan base.
Time for a patented misdirection play I think, or perhaps not. Somehow though I still doubt this is the end of Gunther and Bets. As for Les? Lots of help he is, unless the idea is to let Gunther see how hopeless and non-productive pining for her still happens to be. To me this a classic Luannverse setup.
Too much responsibility for Les to answer. Poor Gunther… He can’t accept the end of his relationship. And the way it ended, no one can blame him. Bets left him without saying a word and now she’s avoiding him. That’s really mean! Maybe Gunther would do better if he will ask for advices to Luann or Tiffany. Or maybe to his wise stepfather Al.
After all this time? C’mon. Move on and save yourself anymore suffering. Even “If” she did come back, would you still want and trust her? Now that you got a really good look at her, do you actually think she’s a great match for you after all? If so, then Yikes!!! You’re flirting with major disaster and trouble. “Run for your lives, while you still can!!!”
Why would you even want her to reply? At this point you have to ask yourself “why do you want her back?” Even if she were to run back with proclamations of love would you want her back? She walked out on you and hasn’t acknowledged your existence for weeks. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. Just saying.
“Time for me to fly, I’ve got to set myself free, time for me to fly, and that’s just how it has to be. I know it hurts to say goodbye, but it’s time for me to fly.”
So Gunther has been trying. I guess that’s a little better than not trying.
Good on Les for knowing when to butt out. Luann sure didn’t.
At this point the only way to redeem Bets is to give her some traumatic backstory that she is dealing with. Even then, Gun may not be the right person one to help her with her journey. I’m pretty sure we won’t see Les the rest of the week, so we’ll see that what GnK have in store.
Les didn’t ‘know when to butt out’; Les had never really been a friend of Gunther’s in the past (and had tormented Gunther in school). Les is basically just trying to live with the hand he’s been dealt in having to share a place with another guy, because Les doesn’t seem to have the skills to get a job that would pay enough for him to afford his own place.
As far as Luann ‘not knowing when to butt out’, Luann once was a friend of B’s, and, as I’ve reminded posters here (who keep saying ‘but that was sooo long ago’) during the same time period that Les was tormenting Gunther, Luann had both saved B’s life with CPR and had discovered that a so-called boyfriend of B’s was actually using her (in a way, like Bets used Gunther) by hiding his drugs in her school locker.
Gunther is so tormented by his loss of Bets that he reached out to someone he would not normally reach out to, which just shows Gunther’s lack of understanding of people. He hangs onto the hope that Bets will come back because he was both physically and mentally attracted to her (they DID share SF and ComicCon interests, so he continued to overlook her obsession with posting their private lives.)
Luann reached out because she thought she was still a friend of B’s. I hope when B comes back to the DeGroot house and wants to celebrate her latest escapade with Nil, that Luann just says ‘No. Nite’ and finally turns her back on someone who considers her to be an inferior.
Welcome to another gaping storyline hole in Luann! As other posters have mentioned, the OBVIOUS thing for him to do is check is Bets’ social media but it isn’t even mentioned. After making her webpage/podcasts mania into such a huge part of the relationship (it was actually the basis for the beginning, middle AND end of their romance) the writer of this comic is apparently choosing to pretend Bets’ webpage fascination doesn’t exist. It’s annoying to anyone with even short-term memory. Making Gunther into a whipped whiny little boy is also just as stupid. They would have been better off just moving forward acting like the whole thing never happened, which is their S.O.P – but maybe it should be called their M.O – since it might be comic strip crime.
Question is: tomorrow, do we stay at “The Gulag” with Gunther as something develops there (maybe he rants at Punk the same way that Bern did with Monstro?), or follow Les to work at The Fuse for developments there ?
You’re well out of it, Gunther. The rest of us had her pegged right from the start as an annoying little narcissist. All those selfies were a big warning sign.
Les’ reaction is interesting. He wasn’t loath to offer his opinion when Bets had Gunther making their pirate costumes. Today he looks like he is deliberately keeping his lip zipped because he knows Gunther wouldn’t want to hear his advice. I’m still hoping Les will reveal something about _his_date with Bets.
This could go a number of ways. But the way it won’t go is to never hear from Bets again! IMHO Bets will show up as a changed person. They will have a discussion and may part ways. But relationships are the hot topic in Luanniverse right now. A much more likely outcome is for Gun and Bets to cement their relationship and try to take it in a different direction.
Brad and the Gman double dated once. He with Diane, the girl next door, and Gunther with Luann. I don’t think GnK will send the Gman to Brad for a relationship Bro to Bro talk.
But GnKmight send Luann to reconnect with Gunther at the Gulag. After all, that was where Gunth started this whole relationship mess with Luann’s signing him up with and providing a profile to Date-Pic. Gunther and Luann have been linked on and off throughout the strip’s history. (Are they, aren’t they? Will they, won’t they?) It may be time to bring Luann back into the mix.
I’m surprised he hasn’t checked her online presence for any updates. Bet’s behavior is surprising to me. I thought, or was hoping, she was more considerate, but then she has been focused on her online followers, rather than Gunther’s feelings/needs. Seems she’s just ignorant. I can’t imagine it takes this long to get over/accept/respond to an “I love you” speech.I hate to see Gunther so dependent on Bets. He needs to find out what he wants, other than Bets, and move on. About the time he does that, she may show up again. From overbearing mother to overbearing girlfriend. Nope, he needs to decide what is important to him. Les is smart not to get involved. He may have a bit of insight though as he did date her once. This is quite different from the last arc with everyone getting involved with Bernice’s situation. ;-o
Oh Gunther, if she won’t return your calls and texts after all this time you HAVE your answer. It’s time to move on. Check out her social media. You may find out that SHE has already done so. But if you have to have a more definitive answer go to her house or somewhere you can casually run into her and try to get a face to face conversation going. But be prepared to hear bad news.
Ha! You know I didn’t much care for Les in the beginning. But steadily he has grown on me as a character. Nice development guys!Today’s strip made me smile. Yup, time to get to work. Les knows the score.
The ‘romantic’ (not so much) dinner at Tiffs brought to light the stark differences in the way Bets and Gunth saw their relationship, Bets directing the show and having cosplay and social media fun with Gunther (silly in love) being dragged around like a little dog. That’s the extreme view though it may be somewhere in between. Given this, it is understandable that G is totally clueless as to why the Bets abruptly walked away. If anyone can help Gunther see the situation objectively it would be Les or Tiff. But for now, Gunth is left alone and maybe tomorrow the phone will ring or a message will arrive.
Yes, it is over, get over it and move on. Her motavation is not important if she is unwilling discuss her grievance. Les should have said that to Gunther before he left.
To those saying that Bets ghosted Gunther: did she though? From what I understand, the key feature of ghosting is that it comes out of nowhere and the victim is left with no idea what they even did to cause it (ie. as far as they knew everything was fine beforehand). But Gunther knows full well why this happened, and the last thing Bets said was that she needed space (while it’s not the most explicit form of the breakup speech, that phrasing does get used as a euphemism for it quite often.)
Now I’m not saying that Bets treating him like this isn’t messed-up, but I’m not sure that it counts as ghosting. Any thoughts on this?
Whoops! Trouble in Paradise! So, Gunthie-baby asks, “Why’d she run away? What went wrong?” It all went wrong when he took Tiff’s side in a little dispute. He came off as weak and throwing Bets under the bus to side with Tiff.
TBH, neither Tiff nor Bets were completely “right” or “wrong”. If Tiff imagined that romantic dinner as something French, that’s a-ok. If she needed to teach Ox some French phrases to enhance the Frenchy mood (which he botched), that’s fine, although it comes off as pretentious. Her fault was in not asking Bets what she (Bets) wanted, or informing Bets that the dinner theme was French Sophisticate, and please dress appropriately. Theme not open to negotiation.
Bets wanted a fantasy pirate-themed dinner, which is OK (lots of people love pirates… Disneyland did THAT right), but she didn’t convey those wishes to Tiff??? Bets was willing to drop a few hundred dollars for some Yo Ho Ho and a Bottle o’ Rum, and didn’t tell Tiff this? So that Tiff could prepare the decor, and have the servers dress to enhance the mood and really sweep the happy couple into the 17th century? All she had to do is spend 30 seconds to say “Pirate theme” and let Tiff tell her if it’s doable or not.
Plenty of idiocy to go around. Gunthie is supposed to be smart. All the had to do was tell Bets and Tiff privately and separately that they had a “failure to communicate”, nobody’s right or wrong, and let’s all plan things better next time, so “what we expect” and “what we get” are one and the same.
I think Bets is more at fault than Tiffany. But Tiffany was wrong for not communicating to Bets that she was going ahead with the fine dining theme. At the very least, Tiffany should have told Bets that the dinner was free, but on Tiffany’s terms.
Speaking of Disneyland, for $300 Bets would have done better to take Gunther to the Blue Bayou restaurant.
It’s too late to advise Gunther (really too late) but, if I could: Leave Bets only one message or text that you’re available when she is ready to talk. Other than than, do not chase or “come to her rescue”; Bets left because of her own hang-ups and it is up to her to resolve them. Other than that, Les is right to leave (but we know he won’t).
When I was in the military during the early 70s I was station at one point on a remote site, no leave for one year. During that time every married person got the “dear john letter”. They were mostly around Gunthers age, and guess what, they got over it. He needs to grow some cojones, or he is just going end up making the same mistakes over and over again.
I learned that after leaving three messages, if she chose not to reply to me, it was safe to move on. Three weeks later, one chick called me up wondering why I stopped leaving messages. She was furious that I had moved on before she had moved on.
Somebody else asked if he’s been scrubbed from Bets’ website… has he also checked it to see what content she’s posted since the ghosting took place? It’s possible she’s too busy being an energy vampire sucking from thousands at once that she can’t cope with a one-on-one relationship…
At the moment, we can see and feel that Gunther feels he has invested too deeply in this relationship with Bets. Yet, will there be another “shoe” where Bets comes back to explain? Probably.
Yet, for my manner of thinking…. I would actually like to see Gunther simply recover…. and MOVE ON… with his life, both scholastically and relationship-wise for a quite a while. I think at this point, if Bets were to simply come back and reveal whatever her story is…. I suspect Gunther would take her back into his life in a heartbeat…. but that it would tend to be at a level where Gunther feels too “needy” of this relationship. I would rather see Gunther hearing Bets story when he is emotionally more sure of himself (moving on) so that if/when he chooses to go back into a relationship with Bets he will be on more of an even footing…. and not feeling so desperate for the relationship.
I may not be up on today’s lingo, but isn’t that what they call “ghosting?” No matter what it’s called, Gunther, she is over you, so stop calling, stop texting, stop everything. You’re starting to sound pathetic. Move along. She was no good for you anyway.
Of course, you all know what will happen. Gunther will stop calling, stop texting, and go on with his life, and then she’ll come running back saying she’s sorry. You heard it here folks!
This situation with Bets explains a lot as to why her last few relationships have come via Internet dating sites, lest you forget that is how Les dated her previously. She has probably burned so many relationships with personal friends that noone except online unknowns would touch her with a 10 foot pole.
A few weeks ago I figured out that Gunther and Bernice belong together. They both are somewhat more mature compared with the other characters and might actually compliment each other. Plus if Bernice is going to be with someone creative, it should be a guy with a future; not so sure about Nil.
Gun had plenty of female admires. Back on Dec. 31, 2019, their fans referred to him as “Cute”, “Hot Hugo” and “Smokin Gub!”. As many commentators noted, the hot blonde who asked him to pose at Managafest back on Jan. 3, 2020 seemed interested in Gunther. He just needs to jump back on the web.
Weeks without a reply? I can understand Gunther’s need for closure, but he’s walking the fine line of desperation. Cue up Paul Simon’s “50 Ways to Leave Your Lover.”
Poor Gunth. It’s always the nice guys. Ignore her Gunth and she will come back she needs a costume or a favor and then tell her to stick it where the sun don’t shine.
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lvlax almost 3 years ago
Time to let her go, Gunther!
Templo S.U.D. almost 3 years ago
Gunther so needs a man-to-man talk… perhaps with Mr. Degroot or with his stepfather — Leslie’s uncle — Mr. Gray?
bytebot-gocomics almost 3 years ago
Unlike the Chevy Chase shtick, Les seems to be wearing a watch.
Vilyehm almost 3 years ago
So he did try to call.
So he did try to text.
So we still do not know the important question.
Is he still on her webpage?
notbornyesterday almost 3 years ago
You should get on with your life
Ahuehuete almost 3 years ago
Walk away, Gunth, walk away.
lvlax almost 3 years ago
If he’s been calling and messaging her for weeks and getting no reply, it’s OVER! If he keeps pursuing her, he just looks DESPERATE and will push her away even more. He needs to get on with his life and go out with friends etc.
Crann Bethadh almost 3 years ago
Bern talks to her fish; Gunth is left to talk to the cat. Are we gonna see him texting a ton of emojis tomorrow?
R.W.Singer -SF almost 3 years ago
You are better off, Gunner. She was cute but way too controlling
SactoSylvia-II almost 3 years ago
That confirms it – Bets is ghosting Gunther. Gunther deserves better than that.
alasko almost 3 years ago
Gunther should apply for a job at Weenie World, he fits the description.
ronaldspence almost 3 years ago
It’s heart breaking Gun but take the hint and get out while you can…
beb01 almost 3 years ago
So Leslie’s sympathy turns into today’s callousness. Yesterday I thought Gunther was giving Bets all the space she needed by not calling her. but he has been calling her all along. Maybe it is time to move along. Or call on a “woman” friend for advice on the ways of love. Who would be the worst person in the world to ask advice from. Aside from Luann, of course. Someone Morlock has been shipping since forever.
Diane913 almost 3 years ago
Time for Gunther to move on. He needs to grow a spine before he gets into another relationship.
jea9hrkr almost 3 years ago
pathetic
Uncle Kenny almost 3 years ago
Without Gun, I don’t think there is a place in this strip for Bets. Bye-bye, Bets.
Namrepus almost 3 years ago
Oh, look at that. It’s time for me to iron my dog.
capricorn9th almost 3 years ago
Aw, disappointed in you, Les. You don’t want to hear his whines and are gonna abandon him. You looked promising for personal growth and maturity. At least, you did not heckle him or insult him. There’s that small step in the right direction.
BJShipley1 almost 3 years ago
Time for Gunther to bang one of her friends; it’s the ultimate power move.
BabyBlue almost 3 years ago
Dude! No reply IS a reply! Time to write her off, and OUT of this comic strip.
notbornyesterday almost 3 years ago
Gunther, consider the facts, Bet’s has manipulated and used emotional blackmail to control you since day one…and she’s just your girlfriend; imagine your life with Bets as your wife? Or are you so insecure, needy and maschocistic that it seems like love to you? Well, I guess the answer to that one is pretty obvious.
charlenelin1201 almost 3 years ago
Dating 101. Never profess your love until you get physical with her first. Touch her in a non sexual way to test her readiness, and if she resist, just go “Oh sorry, I was brought up this way”, and if she goes into hiding, then it becomes her problem.
Prescott_Philosopher almost 3 years ago
I can’t believe it. I agree with Leslie.
Mordock999 Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Ah!
There!
You see? Les has returned to his predictable old self, just like I knew he would.
But I’ll admit. I was wrong yesterday.
Les didn’t offer Gunther bad advice.
He’s not offering Gunther ANY advice whatsoever, which is a Good thing.
Now, ordinarily with Mr. Knox leaving, I would say that this is a perfect opportunity for Bets to come over, and for her have that long overdue, uninterrupted, Private conversation with Gunther.
Or better still, for Les to go the Fuse, and loudly blab about Gunny’s plight. Tiffany (Or Luann) overhears, leaves work early and heads to the Gulag to “comfort” Gunny, “time limit” free.
That WON’T happen.
Since it’s Gunther, what probably Will happen is Al Gray calling over to Bark at Gunther saying:
“Knock off the whining! You’re making so much noise that Moe can’t sleep! Don’t make Me come over there!!!”
Argythree almost 3 years ago
Interesting parallels here. B goes all to pieces over what she thinks was her unwanted declaration of possible love (and possible demonstration of her low morals), and turns to Nancy. But not for advice — just as a sounding board, since (for whatever reason), B can’t turn to her own mother. Gunther goes to pieces after HIS obviously unwanted declaration of love, and, lacking anyone else to turn to, actually is asking advice from someone who used to be his nemesis. (To his credit, Les doesn’t make fun of Gunther, but most guys don’t seem to be in the ‘advice to the lovelorn’ business.) We’ll never know what Luann might have said to B when Luann started asking when B was going to ‘fix’ her problem with Nil, so there’s no reason for everyone to conclude that Luann would either be the worst person for Gunther to turn to, or possibly a helper. But Gunther COULD turn to Nancy — or even to his OWN mother. If I remember right, his mother didn’t trust Bets’ motives any more than Nancy trusted Toni’s…
kenhense almost 3 years ago
Gunther – To answer briefly in Morse Code: “Tango Sierra.”
ronaldspence almost 3 years ago
Here is a sure fire way to get Bet’s attention…two words…” date Tiffany”
kenhense almost 3 years ago
In cases like this, a male friend can’t turn bad news into good news. However maybe a female friend could…
syzygy47 almost 3 years ago
(sotto voce) what Gunther doesn’t know is that Bets has been abducted by actual aliens at the scifi anime cosplay convention months ago
tkspring almost 3 years ago
He needs to go to her Instagram account or website and see what she has been posting. It could be that she already has a new “boy toy” she features in her pictures. An influencer like that can’t stop posting without losing her followers and fan base.
RSH almost 3 years ago
She asked for space; sounds like Gunther isn’t giving her that.
Brdshtt Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Well, it looks like “Be – Gun” has come to an end. The Eagles had a song for this, Gunther – take heed:
.
♪ Well, I heard some people talkin’ just the other day
And they said you were gonna put me on a shelf
But let me tell you I got some news for you
And you’ll soon find out it’s true
And then you’ll have to eat your lunch all by yourself
‘Cause I’m already gone
And I’m feelin’ strong
I will sing this vict’ry song
Woo hoo hoo, my my, woo hoo hoo… ♫
.
Say “Goodbye, Bets”
Caldonia almost 3 years ago
She ran off because you said you loved her. Your memory is terrible. And you sound like you’re about 15 years old.
deblee77 almost 3 years ago
Since she was always posting to her fans, couldn’t he just look up to see if she changed her status?
luann1212 almost 3 years ago
Time for a patented misdirection play I think, or perhaps not. Somehow though I still doubt this is the end of Gunther and Bets. As for Les? Lots of help he is, unless the idea is to let Gunther see how hopeless and non-productive pining for her still happens to be. To me this a classic Luannverse setup.
comic reader 22 almost 3 years ago
Hahaha! Les is great! Love the “you are so pitiful knock it off” look he gives Gunther!
Aladar30 Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Too much responsibility for Les to answer. Poor Gunther… He can’t accept the end of his relationship. And the way it ended, no one can blame him. Bets left him without saying a word and now she’s avoiding him. That’s really mean! Maybe Gunther would do better if he will ask for advices to Luann or Tiffany. Or maybe to his wise stepfather Al.
WilliamVollmer almost 3 years ago
Les; Gunther is so stressed out. Give him Punk. Once Punk starts his purring engine, that should help ease Gunther’s stress.
The Duke almost 3 years ago
If you love someone, set them free. If they don’t come back, hunt them down and kill them.
sueb1863 almost 3 years ago
Gunther needs to wake up, examine their relationship, and realize that Bets never cared about him as a person, he was nothing but a prop.
I wonder if we’ll find out if he flunked his finals because Bets pressured him into sewing those pirate costumes instead of studying?
Decepticomic almost 3 years ago
Even Les doesn’t care about that storyline.
Chopped Fowl almost 3 years ago
Gunther, go join the French Foreign Legion (if they’ll have you) ….
Ellis97 almost 3 years ago
Look dude, Les doesn’t care about your personal issues. He’s got enough of his own.
computerprogrammer2028 almost 3 years ago
After all this time? C’mon. Move on and save yourself anymore suffering. Even “If” she did come back, would you still want and trust her? Now that you got a really good look at her, do you actually think she’s a great match for you after all? If so, then Yikes!!! You’re flirting with major disaster and trouble. “Run for your lives, while you still can!!!”
Rocknaww almost 3 years ago
Why would you even want her to reply? At this point you have to ask yourself “why do you want her back?” Even if she were to run back with proclamations of love would you want her back? She walked out on you and hasn’t acknowledged your existence for weeks. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. Just saying.
Johnnyrico almost 3 years ago
REO Speedwagon said it best:
“Time for me to fly, I’ve got to set myself free, time for me to fly, and that’s just how it has to be. I know it hurts to say goodbye, but it’s time for me to fly.”
rrsltx almost 3 years ago
C’mon Gunth. Show a little self respect and stop groveling. You’ve been ghosted. It happens. Now call Tiff. You two are good for each other.
PeterPirate almost 3 years ago
So Gunther has been trying. I guess that’s a little better than not trying.
Good on Les for knowing when to butt out. Luann sure didn’t.
At this point the only way to redeem Bets is to give her some traumatic backstory that she is dealing with. Even then, Gun may not be the right person one to help her with her journey. I’m pretty sure we won’t see Les the rest of the week, so we’ll see that what GnK have in store.
1BlackLivesMatter Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Bets can stay gone.
chris_o42 almost 3 years ago
Sorry Gunther, you have been ’ghosted". Which is the most cowardly and childish way some people end a relationship.
Cuckooman Premium Member almost 3 years ago
what
shamest Premium Member almost 3 years ago
GET OVER IT. IT IS OVER. Move on. Find someone else.
alexius23 almost 3 years ago
Does this story line end with a kiss in the rain?
alexius23 almost 3 years ago
Has he moved to the level of cyberstalking?
ACTIVIST1234 almost 3 years ago
I agree with the GMan here. If you’re invested in a relationship, the least the other person can do is have the courtesy to say, “it’s over. Goodbye.”
Lawrence.S almost 3 years ago
Asking Les for help with your love life makes as much sense as asking Rudy Giuliani to define integrity. But Gunther is desperate.
Argythree almost 3 years ago
@PeterPirate:
Les didn’t ‘know when to butt out’; Les had never really been a friend of Gunther’s in the past (and had tormented Gunther in school). Les is basically just trying to live with the hand he’s been dealt in having to share a place with another guy, because Les doesn’t seem to have the skills to get a job that would pay enough for him to afford his own place.
As far as Luann ‘not knowing when to butt out’, Luann once was a friend of B’s, and, as I’ve reminded posters here (who keep saying ‘but that was sooo long ago’) during the same time period that Les was tormenting Gunther, Luann had both saved B’s life with CPR and had discovered that a so-called boyfriend of B’s was actually using her (in a way, like Bets used Gunther) by hiding his drugs in her school locker.
Gunther is so tormented by his loss of Bets that he reached out to someone he would not normally reach out to, which just shows Gunther’s lack of understanding of people. He hangs onto the hope that Bets will come back because he was both physically and mentally attracted to her (they DID share SF and ComicCon interests, so he continued to overlook her obsession with posting their private lives.)
Luann reached out because she thought she was still a friend of B’s. I hope when B comes back to the DeGroot house and wants to celebrate her latest escapade with Nil, that Luann just says ‘No. Nite’ and finally turns her back on someone who considers her to be an inferior.
Tyge Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Gunther! Dial 1-800-K-N-U-T-E!
Wubbie almost 3 years ago
I hate to sound unsympathetic, but I’m really, really getting tired of Gunthie’s love life (or lack thereof).
me_the_polish_gull almost 3 years ago
Lemme predict, what will happen next.
1. Gunther will find out, why Bets ran away;
2. Bets will dump him;
3. After,… I don’t know, a few months, Gunth will have a crush on Luann AGAIN;
4. Luann, finding out that, will have a hard decision. She’ll have to pick between him and Jack;
5. It will get toughier, because in spite of what we’ve seen, Bernice will have to decide between Jack AND Nil.
Now we have to see, what will actually happen.
comic reader 22 almost 3 years ago
Welcome to another gaping storyline hole in Luann! As other posters have mentioned, the OBVIOUS thing for him to do is check is Bets’ social media but it isn’t even mentioned. After making her webpage/podcasts mania into such a huge part of the relationship (it was actually the basis for the beginning, middle AND end of their romance) the writer of this comic is apparently choosing to pretend Bets’ webpage fascination doesn’t exist. It’s annoying to anyone with even short-term memory. Making Gunther into a whipped whiny little boy is also just as stupid. They would have been better off just moving forward acting like the whole thing never happened, which is their S.O.P – but maybe it should be called their M.O – since it might be comic strip crime.
Schrodinger's Dog almost 3 years ago
Question is: tomorrow, do we stay at “The Gulag” with Gunther as something develops there (maybe he rants at Punk the same way that Bern did with Monstro?), or follow Les to work at The Fuse for developments there ?
Clotty Peristalt almost 3 years ago
You’re well out of it, Gunther. The rest of us had her pegged right from the start as an annoying little narcissist. All those selfies were a big warning sign.
Tyge Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Les’ reaction is interesting. He wasn’t loath to offer his opinion when Bets had Gunther making their pirate costumes. Today he looks like he is deliberately keeping his lip zipped because he knows Gunther wouldn’t want to hear his advice. I’m still hoping Les will reveal something about _his_date with Bets.
phileaux almost 3 years ago
Bets is being rude and/or a coward.
Fish or cut bait
kunddog almost 3 years ago
Bets will be back by Friday, so we can have another week of this joy
jrankin1959 almost 3 years ago
Hate to say this, but that’s a good one from Les.
Tyge Premium Member almost 3 years ago
This could go a number of ways. But the way it won’t go is to never hear from Bets again! IMHO Bets will show up as a changed person. They will have a discussion and may part ways. But relationships are the hot topic in Luanniverse right now. A much more likely outcome is for Gun and Bets to cement their relationship and try to take it in a different direction.
jamesamber29 almost 3 years ago
I agree Les get to work early today and save your sanity.
Cincoflex almost 3 years ago
At least Les knows better than to try and give advice.
Tyge Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Brad and the Gman double dated once. He with Diane, the girl next door, and Gunther with Luann. I don’t think GnK will send the Gman to Brad for a relationship Bro to Bro talk.
But GnK might send Luann to reconnect with Gunther at the Gulag. After all, that was where Gunth started this whole relationship mess with Luann’s signing him up with and providing a profile to Date-Pic. Gunther and Luann have been linked on and off throughout the strip’s history. (Are they, aren’t they? Will they, won’t they?) It may be time to bring Luann back into the mix.
tremaine53 almost 3 years ago
Gunther: When there’s hand-wringing to be done, Bernice is your girl. Please just tell Greg Evans not to publish that conversation.
Otis Rufus Driftwood almost 3 years ago
Gunther needs a friend now.
dv1093 almost 3 years ago
Go back to Peru, Gunth.
sfknight almost 3 years ago
Gunther, wake up! You’re asking Les for relationship advice. Really?
YorkGirl Premium Member almost 3 years ago
I’m surprised he hasn’t checked her online presence for any updates. Bet’s behavior is surprising to me. I thought, or was hoping, she was more considerate, but then she has been focused on her online followers, rather than Gunther’s feelings/needs. Seems she’s just ignorant. I can’t imagine it takes this long to get over/accept/respond to an “I love you” speech.I hate to see Gunther so dependent on Bets. He needs to find out what he wants, other than Bets, and move on. About the time he does that, she may show up again. From overbearing mother to overbearing girlfriend. Nope, he needs to decide what is important to him. Les is smart not to get involved. He may have a bit of insight though as he did date her once. This is quite different from the last arc with everyone getting involved with Bernice’s situation. ;-o
Ignatz Premium Member almost 3 years ago
I like “I’m early for work.” Les doesn’t even pretend.
eladee AKA Wally almost 3 years ago
Oh Gunther, if she won’t return your calls and texts after all this time you HAVE your answer. It’s time to move on. Check out her social media. You may find out that SHE has already done so. But if you have to have a more definitive answer go to her house or somewhere you can casually run into her and try to get a face to face conversation going. But be prepared to hear bad news.
Ignatz Premium Member almost 3 years ago
So is Tiffany going to show up to comfort Gunther?
Tetonbil Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Ha! You know I didn’t much care for Les in the beginning. But steadily he has grown on me as a character. Nice development guys!Today’s strip made me smile. Yup, time to get to work. Les knows the score.
RSH almost 3 years ago
The ‘romantic’ (not so much) dinner at Tiffs brought to light the stark differences in the way Bets and Gunth saw their relationship, Bets directing the show and having cosplay and social media fun with Gunther (silly in love) being dragged around like a little dog. That’s the extreme view though it may be somewhere in between. Given this, it is understandable that G is totally clueless as to why the Bets abruptly walked away. If anyone can help Gunther see the situation objectively it would be Les or Tiff. But for now, Gunth is left alone and maybe tomorrow the phone will ring or a message will arrive.
Vangoghdog01 almost 3 years ago
Yes, it is over, get over it and move on. Her motavation is not important if she is unwilling discuss her grievance. Les should have said that to Gunther before he left.
Vangoghdog01 almost 3 years ago
To paraphrase: “To find a princess, you gotta kiss a lot of frogs.” Bets was a frog.
BJShipley1 almost 3 years ago
To those saying that Bets ghosted Gunther: did she though? From what I understand, the key feature of ghosting is that it comes out of nowhere and the victim is left with no idea what they even did to cause it (ie. as far as they knew everything was fine beforehand). But Gunther knows full well why this happened, and the last thing Bets said was that she needed space (while it’s not the most explicit form of the breakup speech, that phrasing does get used as a euphemism for it quite often.)
Now I’m not saying that Bets treating him like this isn’t messed-up, but I’m not sure that it counts as ghosting. Any thoughts on this?
DG almost 3 years ago
Check her online status, if it says single its over.
ZeMastor almost 3 years ago
Whoops! Trouble in Paradise! So, Gunthie-baby asks, “Why’d she run away? What went wrong?” It all went wrong when he took Tiff’s side in a little dispute. He came off as weak and throwing Bets under the bus to side with Tiff.
TBH, neither Tiff nor Bets were completely “right” or “wrong”. If Tiff imagined that romantic dinner as something French, that’s a-ok. If she needed to teach Ox some French phrases to enhance the Frenchy mood (which he botched), that’s fine, although it comes off as pretentious. Her fault was in not asking Bets what she (Bets) wanted, or informing Bets that the dinner theme was French Sophisticate, and please dress appropriately. Theme not open to negotiation.
Bets wanted a fantasy pirate-themed dinner, which is OK (lots of people love pirates… Disneyland did THAT right), but she didn’t convey those wishes to Tiff??? Bets was willing to drop a few hundred dollars for some Yo Ho Ho and a Bottle o’ Rum, and didn’t tell Tiff this? So that Tiff could prepare the decor, and have the servers dress to enhance the mood and really sweep the happy couple into the 17th century? All she had to do is spend 30 seconds to say “Pirate theme” and let Tiff tell her if it’s doable or not.
Plenty of idiocy to go around. Gunthie is supposed to be smart. All the had to do was tell Bets and Tiff privately and separately that they had a “failure to communicate”, nobody’s right or wrong, and let’s all plan things better next time, so “what we expect” and “what we get” are one and the same.
PeterPirate almost 3 years ago
I think Bets is more at fault than Tiffany. But Tiffany was wrong for not communicating to Bets that she was going ahead with the fine dining theme. At the very least, Tiffany should have told Bets that the dinner was free, but on Tiffany’s terms.
Speaking of Disneyland, for $300 Bets would have done better to take Gunther to the Blue Bayou restaurant.
StoicLion1973 almost 3 years ago
It’s too late to advise Gunther (really too late) but, if I could: Leave Bets only one message or text that you’re available when she is ready to talk. Other than than, do not chase or “come to her rescue”; Bets left because of her own hang-ups and it is up to her to resolve them. Other than that, Les is right to leave (but we know he won’t).
flying spaghetti monster almost 3 years ago
When I was in the military during the early 70s I was station at one point on a remote site, no leave for one year. During that time every married person got the “dear john letter”. They were mostly around Gunthers age, and guess what, they got over it. He needs to grow some cojones, or he is just going end up making the same mistakes over and over again.
percheronhitch6 almost 3 years ago
Sing it with me! The party’s overrrrr! It’s time to call it a daaaaay!
Joe1962 Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Gunther don’t dare run after her. It’s over.
rhonda Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Have you checked her socials? She lives her life online. Surely she’s posted something about what’s going on in her head.
cynickle almost 3 years ago
Bets is bad news, Gunth. You and, by extension, the reading audience are better off without her around.
PaulLeckner almost 3 years ago
“It takes two to make a relationship, but only one to break it.” – Jerry Springer
PaulLeckner almost 3 years ago
I learned that after leaving three messages, if she chose not to reply to me, it was safe to move on. Three weeks later, one chick called me up wondering why I stopped leaving messages. She was furious that I had moved on before she had moved on.
MuddyUSA Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Nil is trying to be cool!
yoda1234 almost 3 years ago
Somebody else asked if he’s been scrubbed from Bets’ website… has he also checked it to see what content she’s posted since the ghosting took place? It’s possible she’s too busy being an energy vampire sucking from thousands at once that she can’t cope with a one-on-one relationship…
Pipe Tobacco Premium Member almost 3 years ago
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At the moment, we can see and feel that Gunther feels he has invested too deeply in this relationship with Bets. Yet, will there be another “shoe” where Bets comes back to explain? Probably.
Yet, for my manner of thinking…. I would actually like to see Gunther simply recover…. and MOVE ON… with his life, both scholastically and relationship-wise for a quite a while. I think at this point, if Bets were to simply come back and reveal whatever her story is…. I suspect Gunther would take her back into his life in a heartbeat…. but that it would tend to be at a level where Gunther feels too “needy” of this relationship. I would rather see Gunther hearing Bets story when he is emotionally more sure of himself (moving on) so that if/when he chooses to go back into a relationship with Bets he will be on more of an even footing…. and not feeling so desperate for the relationship.
bakana almost 3 years ago
No way is Les going to say those 3 little words:
“I Don’t Know”.
realdeedizzle almost 3 years ago
les and gunther join the army. abbott and costello or frances joins the navy ? L O L
PhoenixHocking almost 3 years ago
I may not be up on today’s lingo, but isn’t that what they call “ghosting?” No matter what it’s called, Gunther, she is over you, so stop calling, stop texting, stop everything. You’re starting to sound pathetic. Move along. She was no good for you anyway.
PhoenixHocking almost 3 years ago
Of course, you all know what will happen. Gunther will stop calling, stop texting, and go on with his life, and then she’ll come running back saying she’s sorry. You heard it here folks!
Vilyehm almost 3 years ago
Bets’s daddy is die hard, set in his ways, and he aint gonna allow no daughter of his to date no white boy..
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Hmmm….
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Naw. Not a good enough reason.
There is no redemption.
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Not after “weeks” was used.
Lion_Tamer almost 3 years ago
This situation with Bets explains a lot as to why her last few relationships have come via Internet dating sites, lest you forget that is how Les dated her previously. She has probably burned so many relationships with personal friends that noone except online unknowns would touch her with a 10 foot pole.
Otis Rufus Driftwood almost 3 years ago
A few weeks ago I figured out that Gunther and Bernice belong together. They both are somewhat more mature compared with the other characters and might actually compliment each other. Plus if Bernice is going to be with someone creative, it should be a guy with a future; not so sure about Nil.
Ariesr almost 3 years ago
Gun had plenty of female admires. Back on Dec. 31, 2019, their fans referred to him as “Cute”, “Hot Hugo” and “Smokin Gub!”. As many commentators noted, the hot blonde who asked him to pose at Managafest back on Jan. 3, 2020 seemed interested in Gunther. He just needs to jump back on the web.
Night-Gaunt49[Bozo is Boffo] almost 3 years ago
He shouldn’t have done that. He might have gotten an answer. Best to say bye and move on.
kittysquared Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Weeks without a reply? I can understand Gunther’s need for closure, but he’s walking the fine line of desperation. Cue up Paul Simon’s “50 Ways to Leave Your Lover.”
EasyEight almost 3 years ago
Gunther, go to Alaska and work a summer on a fishing boat. That can be done if G&K allow it.
Sisyphos almost 3 years ago
How many more years will it take before Gunther Gets a Clue?
Bets is part of your pathetic history, Gunny. Deal.
overtherainbow almost 3 years ago
To make Bets’ disappearance from the strip (and Gun’s life) complete, he will finally check her social media and find she’s moved to New York City.
David Huie Green LosersBlameOthers&It'sYOURfault almost 3 years ago
“I’m not good at interpersonal conflict, concern, contact, communication, counseling, contemplation, …”
CrazyLady Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Poor Gunth. It’s always the nice guys. Ignore her Gunth and she will come back she needs a costume or a favor and then tell her to stick it where the sun don’t shine.
Z Blair Premium Member almost 3 years ago
I’m wondering if Gunther will find out about Bet’s new bf on her website where she tags Gunther? Or maybe Tiff will see it and let him know?
ct0760 almost 3 years ago
Hes long past desparation into just sad really…move on and live your life
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