January 17, 2018
Don’t think about a purple cow, Luann! Tomorrow: Gunther finally takes a look at what Bets has been posting…
Get her Gunth!!
Hit the nail right on the head there, Gunther.
Yeah, Luann, just unfollow them. Gunther, in case Luann doesn’t follow through and unfollow, you can delete them as followers (followers will not know they were unfollowed).
I hope he confronts Bets for HER role in all of this.
Luann, you are not cool! Gunther is the one who got away!
Luann’s putting the blame on Bets to shift it from herself. I like that Gunther has put the blame on Luann. That is where it should rightly go!!
Luann’s still not getting it, is she?
Well I KNEW it.
I KNEW Gunther should have QUIT while he was ahead the other day. And look! Now he’s yelling!
And see? I TOLD You Cheap. As predicted, the “usual suspects” are already pointing fingers and spinning this as being “All Gunther’s Fault.” Predictable.
Gunther, since you’re unfortunately, are still there, ask Luann to tell YOU the TRUTH for a change instead of the Bullsh*t she’s been shoveling at you this week. Get her to tell you why she REALLY can’t look away from those social media posts and is wondering about YOUR sex life. She’s sure as shootin’ going to tell someone else, (probably Bernice) the truth later.
Why not tell you, the “subject” of her snooping?
How about “Stop posting them if you don’t want friends to see them?”.
She’s gone from playing the victim on Monday, to smugly lying on Tuesday, to trying to shift the blame today. Is it really that hard to simply apologize? I know Luann has always been kinda self-absorbed, but this is heading into straight-up narcissistic territory here with the refusal to admit fault or accept blame. I don’t recall her ever being this bad at taking criticism before. Criminey, I hope this at least ends with her learning something, because so far this week is making her rather unsympathetic.
Reminds me of the closing lines of Hemingway’s “The Killers”:“I can’t stand to think about him waiting in the room and knowing he’s going to get it. It’s too damned awful.”“Well,” said George, “you better not think about it.”
Gunther is absolutely right. If the pictures bother you, weird you out or otherwise make you uncomfortable Luann, then DON’T LOOK AT THEM! And don’t try to use them as an excuse for your own atrocious behavior.
Looking at today’s “Luann Again” it is obvious how much Gunther has matured over time: Luann not so much…
What did Bets show over social media that was so intimate? Passionate kisses as far as we can tell. This is hardly sexting which would be illegal and subject to prosecution for illegal pornography. Luann’s gossiping implicated sexual contact, sexual intimacy. That verges on defamation if not true. Which by the way, if Luannverse law is anything like real US law, that would mean it probably is true. But no shots of them having sex, just kissing. So who is the bad guy/girl here? What are the limits of privacy? Luann thinks that what she sees as intimacy is “weird” as shown on her phone, but is her interest in if they are ’doing it" and her gossiping starting with Les a sign of something more? What are her true motives and why? As a friend, jealousy, desire? That, still is the question.
Stop looking? Stop posting!
Here’s a question for y’all. Precisely what did Lou do to Gunth? Answer: she violated his privacy. Tiff did that too, but she was acting in character, Lou was not.
Know who else violated Gunth’s privacy? Betts. When Gunth first became aware of the “Betts & Gunth Show”, he was not all that thrilled about it but did not raise any serious objection. At that time. Presumably he was concerned that the kind of thing that did happen, could happen.
My prediction: Gunth & Betts are going to have a serious conversation about “The Show”. Several possible resolutions there and no real way to know which one we’ll get until after we actually get it.
Did Tiff do Gunther a disservice in creating and spreading a rumor? Certainly.
Did Luann do Gunther a disservice? Yes, she made the biggest mistake in this whole sorry mess by trying to find out something that was none of her business.
Did Betts do Gunther a disservice? Yes, she took what Gunther apparently thought were private moments and spread them on the internet. This seems pretty much the same thing that Luann did in terms of “quality” if not “quantity”.
Did Gunther do Gunther a disservice? Yes. As soon as he became aware that Betts was spreading their private moments to the public, and if he was uncomfortable with it, he should have had a chat with Betts then and there, instead of waiting until after the saga so completely unfurled.
Of course, then we would not have had a couple of weeks to stew about this…
Blame? Plenty to go around. After all, this is a morality play…
I now believe what was said the other day about the Luann haters. Wow!!
However..Does anyone think Gunther has actually L@@KED at all the photos Bets has been posting? Perhaps he should. The whole thing seems a bit out of his league. Sure. Luann can stop looking, but what about all the thousand of others he might not want to see him? Mostly strangers..?? Not what a lot of people would want.
That’s like running down the street stark naked and then getting mad because “somebody looked.”
And Gunther loses momentum and the point at the 10 yard line!
Good comment on Gunther’s part.
Yes I am aware this is a comic strip, but in this situation Greg Evans is giving an excellent piece of advice. " If something two adults are LEGALLY doing offends you, look elsewhere."
Even without the beard or whatever it was, Gunther has indeed become a force to be dealt with. I like this. Hopefully, the “Gunther the Doormat” days are over.
P: Doctor, it hurts when I do this ….
D: Then, don’t do that ….
So many people are missing the point.It is a generational thing for one thing. Here is how it works:CONTENT CREATORS control the content they release. What is done with it and specifically said about it is a reaction. But that reaction crosses a line when it spills over into spying, or stalking. They are interested in the reactions, but what strangers think is not going to have the same impact with the content provider as what personal friends think or do. But friends especially should not cross a line: Luann crossed that line.
If you do not like a book don’t read it. You don’t get to tell the author not to write it. If they did not have people following them they would stop because of lack of activity from the reactors. They provide content many people want to see. Heck they were recognized.
IF you do not like a movie, or a TV show, you don’t watch it. IF you are curious about the SHOW, you look up information about it , or a cast member or author bio.
But you cross a line if you try to find their home address or what if they are on medication. Or ANY OTHER PERSONAL DATA ABOUT THEM. That would be creepy and stalking.
Did Gunther just grow a spine?
Geez, look at his angry little face. It’s a free country, you can’t tell her what she’s not allowed to look at! Chill, dorko.
THE REAL BOTTOM LINE Greg writes a comic strip. It is widely distributed and obviously commented on. Our opinions matter, to us and maybe to him to some extent. But, does that give any of us the right to probe into his tax returns, or his home life, or if he dyes his hair, or has dentures?He and his distributors control the content. We consume it. We react. That is all expected. But he is not inviting us all over his house to watch the game or have a beer. He is not offering to even be our friend.I can guarantee that if a friend of his started snooping into his personal affairs he would be upset, and if the opinion was put forth that because he puts out public content that he is fair game, it would be shot down like a dogfight.
Luann is a moth and “Gun N Bets” is the flame. Get too close and Luann will lose Gunther.
Oh! OH! I know! All the Bets and Gun postings will comment that Gunther makes their costumes and it’s going to lead to Gunther’s eventual fame as a costume genius and everyone who is anyone will want a Gunther for the awards ceremony of choice. Then when he is stinking rich and worthy, Anne stinkbrain will want him to make her a designer dress and he’ll refuse because of all the crud she has pulled on everyone and Tiffany’s dad will finally start to get who she really is.
Sorry Gunthy, is the Internet! Haven’t you seen the warning ads on TV?!
Wow Guther’s REALLY pissed at Luann. He’s letting her have it with both barrels. But i don’t blame him, Luann spent YEARS competing with Tiffany to see who could have the most popular boyfriend. She spent so much time trying to be popular and go out with a popular boy, she couldn’t(or didn’t want to) see the genuine love that Gunther had for her. I don’t know about Luann, but i know quite a few women who would love a lover who put immense time, effort, and thought into a gift. Not just buying it at the store.
Good to see Gunther finally standing up for himself!
For the first time, I agree with Gun. Ever hear the old joke? One persons says “that’s the most disgusting thing I have ever seen” and the other one says, “give me the binoculars and let me look”
Now, Gun…after you’ve wiped Luann’s blood off your blade (figuratively, of course), you need to put the smack down on Bets and possibly Tiffany.
You’re off to a great start! You can call the chiropractor, now that you have the very body part they are known to treat. ;)
Trying to shift her obsession to the presence of social media, instead of accepting responsibility of her shady behavior.
You’re yelling at the wrong person, Gunther. They’re on the internet for anybody to see and Luann has every right to look at them.
Tell Bets to STOP POSTING. But you won’t because she wears the pants in your relationship.
And seriously, what do you think all the strangers who are seeing those pictures are thinking? Probably much raunchier stuff than Luann.
You have fans now Gunther, everything comes with a price tag.
Nobody just stops looking at social media
Good luck trying to get any of today’s teenagers off social media, Gunth, leave alone Luann!
If you don’t want people looking, then don’t post the pictures.
This from the guy that was uncomfortable taking the pics at the show? Seems to me like Gunth is a little embarrassed that he’s so whipped by his first real GF.
Why is this Bet’s, anf for that matter Gunth’s, problem. This is completely Luann’s problem. Total case of jealously. Gunth has a life now that does not revolve around Luann and she cannot accept that. In case you guys haven’t noticed, Gunth is finally starting to grow up and be his own person.
Wow – what a concept…
Gunther has given to Luann a very simple and useful advice. But I wonder if he’s annoyed by the pix Bets posts.
for the first time here Gunther is off sides. Betts puts it out there and L is a friend and curious. Just stop? maybe betts should back off. or needs to understand it is causing talk-but then it’s something she likes.
I think we’re coming to understand how betts was single when she met gunther.
Finally he’s getting a set of oranges
Here’s a thought. Luann should plant one on Gunther, snap a photo, upload it, and see what happens. :o)
How would Bernice react? Tiffany? Irma? Les? Bets?
I think this comic could be pointing to a lot of negative commenters lol! Move along! Nothin’ to see here! ;)
Jealousy, thy name is Luann
Or… don’t want people weighing in on your personal business? Don’t post pictures of it.
I’m beginning to think there is way more to Luann’s nosiness than meets the eye.
Good for you, Gunther.
Luann totally deserves this dressing down.
Pics of them hugging and/or kissing and being goofy is a long way from them having sex. And that’s what Luann and others were gossiping and/or trying to find out about. Bottom line, even if Bets & Gunther are knocking it out 4 times a day, it’s nobody’s business and social media pics of them together doesn’t give anybody the right to snoop further. I’m a little fuzzy on why anyone here is blaming Bets for anything. Gunther finally has a girlfriend who has his same dorky interests and is also hot (if a comic person can be hot?)
Reading some of these comments, I’m glad I don’t have most of you as friends. You’re acting as if Luann is some stranger to Gunther. They’ve known each other for a majority of their lives. I’m sure there’s personal info that they each have on each other that know one else knows.
So why wouldn’t Luann be curious about her close friend’s life? I’d put a wager down that if it were two close guy friends, they’d be high fiving each other over the pictures. Where’s the difference?
She cares about him and she wants to know if he’s happy. I think it’s more telling that Gunther’s pissed that she did ask around. He’s not angry at her, he’s angry about something else that’s a lot more interesting.
BLAME THE VICTIM !!!!!!!!!
What’s with Luann ? She’s jealous, or something?
ROFL Funny how the Most Simple Solution is beyond most people.
I think he’s being disproportionately angry at Luann. Lighten up, Gunth
This anger will get re-directed to Bets, in time. The purpose of taking such photos if for them to be seen…but by whom, where and how?
It has always cracked me up when people put their weird crap out there for the world to see and then somehow get offended when people point, laugh or comment on it.
The same goes for people who complain about what’s on television.
I think it’s irrational to expect personal pics posted on social media for all to see would not spark questions from friends that essentially wonder what’s up with that. Lu didn’t ask anything anybody else wouldn’t at least wonder to themselves if they didn’t know their buddy was in that deep with someone else. Human nature doesn’t make her a stalker or a criminal. Once you hit post…you have no control over what happens next. Gun acts like she was watching them through a peep hole.
Neon Trees, “Everybody Talks.”
Gunther is a twit. Who cares what Bets posts? It makes him look like a stud – which is something he badly needs.
She didn’t start this rumor, true or not. She was minding their own business. She has no role in it.
The level of hatred here takes my breath away. I’m back to ArcaMax for my Luann read now; no reason to ‘follow’ the haters here.
Loving this version of Gunther!
Though it does seem both of them need a lesson in dealing with social media.
If a woman was as nuts about me as Bets is about her “Gun” I really wouldn’t care what pix she posted. (Well, mostly….)
Luann was wrong for snooping around for personal information on her “Long” time friend, based on a social media post (The KISS); which sent her down the rabbit hole into this predicament.If you’re really someone’s friend ..you go have a conversation w/ them face-to-face, and not behind their back ; anyone who defends Luann’s behavior …that’s just wrong.
(rolls eyes) Yup, continue to make excuses and try to deflect the blame. Think about it Luann, HOW MUCH do you want to save this friendship? You’re the one who wronged Gunth, so OWN it, girl. Just come clean, tell him how it started in your room because you were bored and jealous, and how you made your own foolish choices to go out snooping and regret how it snowballed.
Simple solutions are sometimes quite effective.
Gunther demands Luann privacy, but he’s not worried that a crowd of strangers will have access to everything he doesn’t want Luann to see, much less that Bets will upload it so happily.
Gunther wins again. True about Bets though, posting way too much.
Wow. Old Gunth’s gettin’ some cajoles!
This is going downhill, and very, very fast.
Luann: Blame the victim. Gunther: Anger and mommy issues.
All in the same three panels.
About the only thing worse that can happen now is,
Luann and Gunther “kiss and make up” on Saturday.
Sorry I didn’t provide any barf bags.
YES! THANK you Greg! Just as I thought, Gunther knows what Bets is posting and DOESN’T CARE. He’s perfectly fine with it! Just because a couple posts pictures of them together, does not give you the right to snoop in their personal business. That’s like a 11-yr old girl posting a ton of pictures of herself and then some guy start stalking her and tries to excuse it by saying she asked for it by posting pics. In other words, Luann is essentially blaming the victim for HER actions.
I wonder how much of Gunther’s seeming indifference to Bets’ intimate postings in panel 1 is in deference to his (supposed) girlfriend. Recall that on this past February Greg (via Luann) described Gunther as: “100% pure gentleman. Respectful, decent, kind, honorable.”
In every other situation, including the very first photo of him supposedly wearing Tiff underwear, Gunther has expressed real discomfort with Bets’ sharing.
Somehow I get the feeling that somewhere down the line Gunther and Bets will come to an agreement that they’re not the ones meant for each other. And the way Greg’s story tend to play out, when Gunther becomes single, both Luann ands Tiffany will be seeing someone else.
Boom Gunther drops the mic.
When posting all those convention photos, Bets was very upbeat and reactions seemed positive, Gunther seemed overwhelmed, but didn’t complain much. Then more personal photos were posted. We only saw Luann and Bernice’s reactions. Wondering if there were other negative posts or comments to Bet’s posts. If everything was so upbeat with Bets’s posts to Gunther’s thinking, maybe he wasn’t ready for any negative reaction. Gunther has seemed to be a sensitive person. There’s something else going on with him, not just Luann’s snooping and TIff’s gossiping.
Luann needs to cool it. It’s not Gunther’s responsibility to smooth over her reaction to the photos.
BJShipley summed it up nicely in an earlier post. Luann’s gone from playing the victim, to smugly lying, to trying to shift blame. Luann: “Oh but look at these pictures, Gunth. The pictures made me do it.”
It’s Luann’s version of the Twinkie Defense.
There is no excuse for Luann’s behavior. All you people who claim anyone who saw the pictures would wonder and speculate——maybe true.
But Luann went far beyond wondering and speculating, she deliberately went out trying to dig up dirt on someone who was a friend. (hate to see how she’d treat her enemies) And don’t give me the “she was concerned about him” crap. If she was so concerned, she would have went to him directly. Unless she’s decided to forget about a teaching career and become a paparazzi, there is no excuse for her actions, and her lame floundering around and trying to shift blame just makes her look bad. She should just admit she screwed up and apologize already.
Actually the reason why we’re all posting (more so than any other strip I follow) here is that we have a prurient interest in this topic too. Maybe not totally prurient, but anything to do with relationships and sex seems to attract interest across all demographics. And this isn’t even really “about sex” this is about people who are thinking about sex.
The big question is why is Luann reacting like this? Her actions are way over the top in this case. What is REALLY going on?
If Bets wasn’t posting them…
Seems to me this is either going to turn into a life lesson for Luann or friendship breakup. Maybe both. Maybe neither. Depends on the writer. The question that intrigues me most though, is why IS Luann feeling “weird” about Gunther’s (and Babs’s) pics? Inquiring minds want to know…
With one person it’s oversharing and the other person is overly inquisitive. And with both it’s a privacy issue.
Pix is plural? I thought it was singular.
Remember way back when??? Bets has been concerned (jealous???) of Gunther’s relationship with Luann. She’s showing “Gun” off like her prize peacock. What if she find that there is another peahen in the garden. Is Greg setting up a confrontational crisis?
Issues yet resolved: Gun’s degree of discomfort with Bets’ social postings. Bets’ degree of comfort with Gunther’s female friends (there has been a lot of intimacy with both Tiffany and Luann). Luann’s true feelings for Gunther (buddy or boudoir?).
This is just getting good! If Greg will let it. :o)
On 4-6-19, Bets was different than she is now. She wasn’t an exhibitionist. She wanted privacy. https://www.gocomics.com/luann/2019/04/06
Wrong answer, Gunth. That’s like walking down main street naked, and yelling at everyone “Stop staring at me!! What’s wrong with you people?”
Wow! This has touched a hot button. 400 comments.
Luann has known Gunther since they were children. She’s always looked at him as “the Ugly Duckling”. Now, all of a sudden, he’s a beautiful swan. She’s going to have to get used to the change. It isn’t easy because Gunther always had a huge crush on Luann, and now he’s evolving into a red hot lover—of other people. Changing long held perceptions taxes the brain.
I am still happy that Gunther is handling this frustrating situation with Luann pretty well. I am quite disappointed in Luann’s responses without yet offering an apology. It may be weird for Luann when she views the Bets & Guns social media site… but Gunther is exactly right…. if she gets weirded out by it…. do not view it.
As far as I gather…. Bets is by far the more adventurous in terms of social media of the pair…. but it feels/seems like she has gotten Gunther used to the photos and “fans” to a degree. But…. that is something Bets and Guns would need to discuss together if there are to be changes….. it should not in any way involve Luann.
One thing I would like to just mention…. I am not really particularly fond of the way Greg draws Gunther’s negative expressions. Compared to how he draws others in the comic with negative emotions… he seems to have Gunther’s look more harsh and severe. I think this is a bit of disservice to Gunther’s character…. I think the harsh way Greg draws Gun’s negative expressions makes it very possible for folks to think of Gunther as mean and nasty as a lot of folks have said often since he returned from Peru.
If you don’t want people to look at it, then don’t put it on social media. I still say Gunther should dump Bets. She’s NOT good for him.
Sheesh, think we will hit a grand in comments today? Nearly 500 at 3:41 central time.
Take a break from social media, the both of you.
Luann, show Gunther the photos you think are weird. I’m wondering if he even realizes what is on display here.
Lu, you can’t win. Just say your sorry, you should have just went to him with your concerns originally. Unfollow and delete him and Bets of all social media. Leave him and Bets to their followers.
Gunther, QUIT MAKING SENSE……..
She could say … “We don’t talk like we used to; this is my only way to be with you.” or she will say “so don’t post”.. and they will get into an argument.
this is a foreshadowing of her realizing she’s jealous and she’s into him and eventually she’ll marry him (years from now in the strip).
But, if Luann “unfriends” you guys, Bets feelings will be hurt.
I get the feeling this is going to end poorly, as in no more “Bets and Gun”- at least, as an online presence. Perhaps entirely, though that would be silly. Likely, but still silly. Gunther just needs to vocalize his discomfort with it. This is assuming he actually IS discomfited by it. Bets is guilty of nothing. As expected, Luann is trying to defend her snooping. It will probably be effective, especially if she shows him more intimate pictures he doesn’t know about. It’s true Luann didn’t actually start a rumor on purpose, but she never should have asked such a thing of anyone but Gunther himself. She has a somewhat reasonable claim that may just be deflection by changing the subject. “This doesn’t seem like you, Gunther. Are you really okay with this kind of attention?” Telling her not to look is just unrealistic.
Gunther has found Luann’s nose-
It’s in his business.
Hello everyone! Today’s discussion leads to a fun thought exercise: do any of you who agree with Trilogy here (and that includes me) that the content provider has full control and viewers have no right to make demands regarding what they should and shouldn’t post, ever think there’s an exception to that rule? I do, and here it is:
When someone posts something that’s an obvious conversation starter, but then flatly refuse to engage in any conversation about it. I’ve seen a lot of it on FB: someone makes a post like “I’m super upset about what happened today! Nobody come on here and ask me about it!!!” At that point I think it’s fair to tell the person that if they didn’t want to go into the slightest detail then what even was the point of the original post?
Your thoughts? This is a friendly thread here: I’m not trying to start an argument, I just want us all to get the benefit of each other’s experiences. Just keep in mind that this conversation is geared towards those who agree with Trilogy in general, as the point is to discuss exceptions to the rule, not debate the validity of the rule itself.
Luann, you do know you brought this all on yourself, right? Gunther has reached his limit.
when Bets and Gun were at the festival, I thought (and posted) that the whole arc was going to be about social media and peoples’ addiction to it. Instead, it segued into gossiping and spreading of rumors. Well, in the end it really might end up being a statement about social media and how it can enhance and simultaneously wreck relationships.
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