Luann by Greg Evans and Karen Evans for June 07, 2018

oh, good grief

Well, so much for my argument that GnK were maturing Les.

I suspect you could stop writing those checks if Ann were in the slammer, Les. Just sayin’.

Tiffany is showing a lot of maturity!

I’m afraid Tiff is right in her assessment of the situation. Tom’s gonna have to disillusion himself from Anne Awful. His beer goggles are gonna have to fall off on their own. Hope it happens soon.

Let it go, let it go, can’t get that stupid @#$%ing song out of my head.

This does point out what would be a major stumbling block in a Tiffany / Les relationship — the difference in their family wealth. Tiffany is taking the high ground because she can, but for Les there is nothing but low ground.

There must be a limit to his debt.

For that matter, as a minor, any debts he incurred would be her responsibility.

Such detail to Tiff’s room I’m going to start hunting for Waldo.

Les – if you knew what the point was – you wouldn’t like it either.

The pictures of the “old Tiffany” no longer appear to be hanging on the walls.

See its all about the parents. I feel for Les, he has good reason to dislike his mom. Maybe we will find out why he is paying her back. Once done will that draw Tiffany in to his scheme? And so judgmental. Les has a reason for being the way he is, spelled Ann Eiffel. He is getting better I contend. Will Tiffany help him heal his wound, after she has begun to heal hers? It’s all about the parents.

Still waiting for Gunther ‘s knock on the door!

Someone asked whether any other comics (than Peanuts) did a tribute to D-Day. Well, there was:

Two-Party-Opera.

I wish Les would shave that scraggly soul patch.

Tiff don’t lose that control that’s your driving force, get your head back in the game.

I see Les’ point. Ann is making Les pay back all the money he stole from her, but Ann gets away with ‘stealing’ others money through fraud and it’s okay? I would be pissed, too. If Tiffany has truly let it all go, then she should give the list to Les and let him deal with it how he needs to. Tiffany’s problem was her perception that Ann was ‘stealing’ her dad and she wanted revenge. The problem Les has is more personal in that he has to make restitution for what he stole from his mother, but she does not have to make restitution for what she stole from customers through her fraud. Do as I say, but do not do as I do.

I don’t recall Les explicitly telling Tiffany that he is repaying stolen money, which suggests they have had conversations not portrayed in the strip.

I don’t recall … because the dinner party where Les and Tiffany clicked appeared in May of last year. It’s one thing to bounce between arcs and we hardcore followers keep track. But to expect a general audience to remember details presented a year ago presumes a level of give-a-damn that your average reader might not possess.

You Know Dear Friends? Something tells Me that before this Arc is over, Hell before this week is over even:

Les – “YOU have Got EVERYTHING, Tiffany! I’ve got Nothing!”

Tiffany – “Wrong, Les. You NOW have Me!” (She leans over and plants big wet long passionate kiss on Les’ lips) And remember, darling, I STILL have half my dad’s money coming in, which I’ll gladly share! Among Other things!"

Les – "Weeeeeeeell, O-KAY!

(Meanwhile across town)

Ann – “Now Remember Tom, You have to send those wedding invitations out, Pick up my cleaning, and cut your daughter off completely, forever, from any and ALL funding! It’s time that girl stood on her OWN two feet! And don’t forget that we have to be at the dealership at 2pm to pickup my new BMW M5!”

Tom – (Meekly) “Yes, Muhlove.”

And at the Berger Homestead, a pained, swaying Gunther Berger grabs his forehead as he suddenly feels a Great Disturbance in the Force, as if three Gunther Fans cried out in Horror and were suddenly Silenced.

#FREEB!!!

Hey folks it’s just a comic, loosen up.

Tiffany, as long as he’s paying your way, he has control of you.

Aside from Tiffany’s dad, Ann is still robbing a bunch of people who don’t know they’re being robbed. Does that matter?

Nice lamp.

Bernice, move over— Mrs. Fogarty has a new intern in Tiffany. And she’s consoling GOOD.

Doesn’t Les have any copies of the lists that he had to use from when he was acting as Ann’s doorman?

Thief begat thief? If Ann abandoned Les so early how did he manage to pick up so many of her traits? Could it be that Uncle Al, who supposedly DID raise him, is kindred spirit to Ann? Nah…

And what about the money you pinched from the Fuse, Les? When will you ’fess up to that?

Judging by results, Tiff should suggest a session with Mrs. Fogerty.

GnK appear to have resolved Tiff’s daddy-approval issue. But ONLY with “DADDY”. We’ll have to wait to see if her acting-out of that approval issue with other men has improved. Monday’s strip seemed to imply, “not so much.”

The legal eagles and psyche majors are having a field day with this Tiffany/Daddy/Ann/Lingerie novel lately.

Next week:

Act II

Cue dorm door intercom alert.

Tiff’s voice from the speaker: Hello?

Voice: Hey Tiff. It’s Gunther. Can I come up? I’ve been doing lots of thinking and … well you have something I need.

Cue dramatic Hammond organ riff.

After commercial cue announcer:

Will Les still be in the room with Tiff? Will Tiff be au natural? Tune in next week… and the next… and the next…

By all means, let it go, Tiffany. But not before you get justice for those women who were cheated.

Some people may bemoan this arc but even Les has become likable.

It’s the case of the disappearing-reappearing window behind the sofa!

the question is how much money did Les take. Ann is such a liar she could have inflated the amount and his uncle wouldn’t know

I was only able to reach this ‘toon by clicking a ’forward’ arrow that appeared under the June 6 toon that loaded. I guess I won’t be visiting GoComics again. Good by to some greater posters.

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While Tiffany was very correct in pointing out to Les that his “forced donation” to Ann is due to his own problematic behavior, in today’s comic, I do see real value and honesty in Les’s bigger point….

1) Tom (Cat) Ferrell is not really fulfilling the paternal needs for his daughter, granted….. but he is supporting her financially… which is a whole helluva lot more than Les appears to ever have received from Ann.

2) So, at some level it is understandable that Les feels the situations he and Tiffany share relative to the Souffle Lingerie incident are really more dichotomous. Just because Tiffany can “let it go” does not mean Les is so inclined.

But, for me, a lot of posters are suggesting that Les’s reaction shows immaturity on his part. I would state that for me, however, I do not feel he is showing a regression towards immaturity. I think he is simply “venting” to his friend. Expressions of emotions and feelings often are exaggerated for impact when venting.

I think again, the real message he is saying is "Les’s situation is MORE difficult than Tiffany’s…. and he is having a lot of challenges in terms of the idea of “letting go” of the situation."

To me, that is an accurate and fairly logical way for Les to feel at the moment. And, therefore is not really what I would call immature. The real proof however, will be the actions he now takes.

[Tomorrow’s Strip]

Tiffany – “How much money do you still owe Ann?”

Les – "Uhhhh, Well, about $6,500. You see I missed a few payments and with the interest it comes to…..,

Tiffany – “Tell You what Les. I’ll pay off your debt to your mom.”

Les – “You WILL?!!? That’s GREAT!! I don’t know how to Thank Yo…..,”

Tiffany – “Then You can finally forget about your mom. And then YOU will belong to Me! Forever and Ever!”

Les – “Well uhhhhh, that’s great. Really. That’s Great Tiff. Uh, Well. What else You got??”

#FREEGB!!!

Stolen money that he stole from her?

I suspect that Gunther is in cartoon prison because the Evanses just cannot come up with a good or compelling story about him. They certainly don’t seem to want Tiffany and him to be romantically entangled, but they want him to remain a supportive friend. A G+T romance would be fun, but it does limit their options with those two. For instance, they can’t have separate stories any more. Also, unless they want G+T to be a story like Brad and Toni’s, they would have to have a breakup down the line. I agree with that, but I don’t see why Gunther couldn’t fall head over heels for a new character, or even Tara, if they somehow met. However, I like Tiff just the way she is now with no entangling relations. She has had some real insights about her father, which many people dodge.

@KENHENSE: It is very unlikely that Gunther has Asberger’s syndrome or is anywhere along the Autism spectrum. I have a cousin with that, and we’ve had a lot of info given to us over the years. Gunther is socially awkward. There’s a big diff…

I must simplify. How long can Tiffany count on daddy’s financial support? If that support stops, how can she maintain the life style she now enjoys? Her most valuable assets are her looks, but they also have a shelf life. Conclusion: Get serious about college or try to become the trophy wife of some very visible, wealthy, older guy, and have a generous, iron clad pre-nup.

@AIRMAN: Yes, Tiffany enjoys the life that her allowance provides for her, but she didn’t want to go to college. She went because her father said she had to (probably as a condition of continued funding for her.) She actually wanted to go to Hollywood to try for an acting career. While most people never actually succeed with that and end up with lots of ‘day jobs’ while trying (see Jonah), if Tiffany is serious about no longer trying to arrange her life to please her father, she will try that.

_*@DRJEKYLL:* Les stole money earlier from Ann Awful by apparently using her credit card without permission and running up a big bill. Instead of just paying it off herself, Ann seems to have also filed a complaint against her son in the juvenile court division, and Les was ordered both to get a job to repay her and to live with his uncle for court-ordered supervision. (Thus, Al Gray/Grey gets Les a job as the Fuse so the repayments can begin.) This is totally different from the money that Ann stole from those she sold knock-off luxury lingerie to…

I like this change in Tiffany. In fact I like how the entire cast and story line is maturing. Good job!

I’m NOT saying that Les was right in stealing $$$ from his mother – far from it; but I would like to know the REAL other side of the story in that one! Don’t you wonder at what the extenuating circumstances might have been there?

yes Les. It is the point, as least in part.

@KENHENSE: I’m not a scientist, so I am not up to speed on the debates about whether there is actually an increase in Autism or Asperger’s Syndrome, or it is just better diagnosed. I just know what we’ve been told and learned over the years as we tried to help our cousin, who is now in his 40s and both parents are deceased, so he lives in assisted living. People with Asperger’s are not just unable to move forward in a relationship, they can’t relate. It’s like they have a blindness to the fact that someone has feelings, needs, expectations, or what. They can understand very well the details needed to do a job, for example, and be very good at those details. If one of the details is that they must be at work at their computer by 6 am, you can count on them for that. But if you are a relative who invites them for dinner frequently, don’t expect it to ever occur to the Asperger’s person to reciprocate, or ask if they can bring something. Don’t expect them to be able to talk at that dinner about anything other than their job or their interests, or ask you how you feel. It is just not in them. And that is NOT how Gunther is. He did show empathy to Tiffany when he talked to her about her father situation…

“The Prose Of Cons”

“Steal Away The Time”

“The Crab Apple Doesn’t Fall Far From The Tree…If At All”

“Don’t Do The Cryin’, If You Can’t Do The Tryin’ "

“America’s Least Most Wanted”

or

“Little-Bred Robbin’ Hood”

Les is (this time) correct, Tiff. Not the point! And if you are still depending on Tom Farrell financially, you are not yet ready to deal with Grown-Up Life. You are, it seems to me, not in a position to be preaching when you are in a state of denial….

Tiffany has turned over a new leaf and has matured this year. Hopefully Les stays dirty and get revenge on Ann Eiffel!

OK, going to predict the end to this. Let’s see how close I get. Les gets the list from Tiffany and he offers it to his mom in exchange for a cancellation of his debt. Tiffany talks with her dad again and says she will no longer ask for nor receive any money from him while Ann is in the picture. He’s taken aback and begins to look into the truth and discovers something for himself. Toss in Ann having to pay everyone back from her scam, perhaps, somehow. There. Everyone’s free from Ann.

Tiffany is going to sell all her stuff to pay of Les’s debt.

Only 214 comments as of 11:01 pm central time? I guess since its not about sex, or Gunther coming in to protect Tiffany from Les, or getting the cops on Ann, but all about the parents, its just boring huh?