Scott Stantis for February 03, 2021

CONVICT 45. Even if he is out of office already he deserves the guilty verdict.

He was impeached by Congress while he was in the office. The trial was put off by Murderous Moscow Mitch to then make the claim that he can’t now be impeached. It’s now up to the GQP to let him get away with his criminal behavior. He also needs to be prevented from ever running for office again.

Obviously, if a CEO torches his office and then quits, he’s innocent.

Investigate. Many of those arrested claim they did what trump asked. Maybe we should find out if that’s true or not. Unless you don’t think sedition is important.

BSBSBSBSBSBSBSBSBSBSBSBSBSBSBSBSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Impeachment has nothing to do with removing him from office OR making him look bad! (He doesn’t need any help from anyone in that department.)

It’s about that fact that if we, as Americans don’t let the world know that we’re not okay with people attacking our capitol and our Democracy, it’s just going to keep happening until America is finally destroyed altogether!

It’s about safety, justice and accountability!

Just when I thought conservatives couldn’t get any more anti-American…

The American people deserve all the facts regarding trump’s sedition and attempted overthrow of the duly elected government.

So I had this house mate who, it turned out has been pocketing the money I gave him for the utilities. He’s been cooking crack in his bedroom. But he left before I discovered all the things he did to me. So, he’s already gone, and I should just let it go, right? or I could go ahead and bring the law to bear. Which one makes the most sense?

Justice, and preventing the Orange Horror Clown from holding office again, is it’s own reward.

I guess Stantis thinks cold bloody murder is A-OK too. The victim is dead, and prosecution won’t bring them back, so why bother? Oh, maybe the victim’s loved ones may miss them (or democracy if the insurrection succeeded) and they are a teeny bit upset.

It is to prevent Trump from serving again on the federal level and condemn throughout history his fault in the attack on the U.S. Capitol and the U.S. Constitution.

its so he can never run again. Should have elected the email lady

More bullshit from the Right. The POINT is twofold: nobody should be allowed to get away with such things (treason?) without sanctions. More to the point – if the second impeachment is passed by the Senate (which it should be but the Republicans will once again refuse to do their Constitutional duty!) – then Trump would never be able to run for president again. THAT us certainly worth the effort, no? DUH!

The Worst President Ever is Above The Law is what Scott is saying. The majority of voters know now what a mistake Trump has been for America and even FOX NEWS. Now the Republicans are fearful of Trump’s Base and looking for way out from having to show their cards in this poker game of Texas Hold ’Em.

Maybe Ted Cruz would be a great attorney for Trump ? I think he can spell ‘United States’ correctly. That’s a start.

1) There is precedent for impeaching someone already out of office but for actions they committed while in office 2) The penalty — which would be of GREAT benefit to this country and probably the Republican Party as well — is that the Orange Malevolence never gets to run for office again. 3) Another crucial benefit of conviction is a warning that such seditious behavior will not be tolerated, especially in an effort to overturn the election (which is the most unAmerican of acts)

But it won’t prevent one of the juniors from running on a ‘Daddy did well, and those pesky commies ruined everything’-campaign.

You missed the part about preventing him from ever holding a federal office position again, but if you want to play that game, fine. Since he’s now a “private citizen”, he should be arrested, charged in federal court, and incarcerated as a flight risk until his trial comes due.

Conviction by the Senate, while it would have no effect on Trump per se other than the stinging rebuke he so richly deserves, is a necessary step before Senate Democrats can vote under the 14th Amendment to bar him from holding future office.

If Trump is truly guilty of sedition, treason, inciting insurrection (or in chuckie schumer’s case – “inciting erection”) then why hasn’t the DOJ started an investigation and impaneled a grand jury to review the evidence and indict Trump and put him on trial? Every one of the accusations are federal crimes.

Democrats . . . Just want to make really, REALLY sure everyone understands what happens when you threaten their corrupt cult of intolerance.

This is a lie on so many levels that I could take all day responding. I’ll spare the reader even if Scott Stantis won’t.

A lie of omission is still a lie Scotty.

The purpose is 1. to lay the blame for the insurrection clearly at his feet and 2. make sure he cannot run for office again.

stantis…back to goose stepping with rest and lying, of course.

Can we assume stantis believes, TREASON has a time limit?

If t$$$p is found guilty, no holding office again.

The Democrats want to impeach to make him look bad….?

I really don’t think he needs any help in that area! And I don’t think that it will remove the obvious blinders covering the Republican’s (Senators) eyes. So what’s left? Perhaps, just perhaps, it’s with an eye to the intent of the constitution and the future of our country?

Why do we pardon dead people? This isn’t all about Trump, it’s a statement of what we find acceptable from people who hold high office. Unless you want to see someone who’s not from your party do what Trump attempted to do, convicting & barring him from future elections is the only option.

Accountability, Scott, accountability. Look it up.

If impeaching him again means he gets stripped of Secret Service protection for himself and his evil family, it will save the country MILLIONS…

No, to:

1) keep him out of any office in the future,

2) impose other penalties as necessary (e.g. federal tax evasion, nepotism in violation of the 1967 “Bobby Kennedy Law,” and so forth)

3) set a precedent to keep it from happening again. Otherwise 1/6/21 was just a dress rehearsal.

fusilier

James 2:24

NOT TRUE. It forbids him from ever running again. This is important.

The whole point of the impeachment is to prevent him from holding office again. Because if not you know he will be running for the next 4 years, the Republicans will probably give him the nomination, and we’ll have a repeat of 2020.

And these are the same people still yelling about locking up Hillary Clinton, even after seven investigations, even after interrogating the lady for eleven hours one memorable day, even after she vacated her position years ago, and even while knowing she’d done nothing wrong of any substance in the first place! Yeah, the hypocrisy and the double standards the Right can, with a mere yawn, casually hock up and spit out are things not easily imagined til one is sitting, with jaw on the ground, watching it LIVE! Imagine the outcry from, say, Fox News, the Republicans in Congress, and their supporters if there were videos of Ilhan Omar posing ala Al Qeada with an AK-47 promising blood would flow if she and her constituents didn’t get their way. But if a white lady from Georgia does it, crickets…

Trump is already to be the only president to be impeached twice. With the Democrats in charge we could have his first TRIAL, the first one was a dog and pony show under the Republicans.

No.. he looks bad already.. the hope is that by shedding light on his many crimes at least some of his army will see the man they follow for the fraud that he is. And.. there is also the hope that lessons learned may prevent others from doing the same.

The Dem House is doing the Right thing. A second impeachment for inciting an insurrection is not only justified but required of good governance. Whether the Senate convicts before or after Dump’s leaving office is not going to change the fact that Dump was impeached twice in one term. He might be able to be tried for treason even when out of office, but that might prove too divisive.

If an impeachment conviction is off the table because he’s no longer in office (or so the argument goes), then I’d say his immunity from prosecution is no longer operant and criminal charges can be brought.

If he can’t be held accountable under the impeachment provisions (or so the argument goes), how DO you suggest he be held accountable?

AND to prevent him from ever holding office again.

LIES, and you KNOW IT. If he is impeached, he won’t be able to run for public office again. That is a very legitimate reason, and it is not about righteousness.

In 1876 the secretary of war, I believe his name was Belkin, was impeached for crimes committed while in office, even though he resigned minutes before the articles of impeachment were drawn. Both houses of Congress continued with the impeachment so that he could never hold public office again.

So he can’t hold office again Stantis. Is that so hard to understand?

Ugh. The actual penalty if convicted is he’d be prevented from running for federal office again. Get your facts straight.

The alternative is to let him go unpunished in any way for his absolutely shameful and illegal deeds that led to a coup attempt. Close your eyes and imagine all that being done by a brown or black man or woman-then get on your self righteous bent and defend that person!

No, Scott. We, Americans, want Trump impeached so that he can then be banned from ever running for Office. But, I’m sure you, Scott, have an alternate plan?

If you think it’s so pointless let the Democrats do it.

Convicting him prevents him from trying to run for office again….it’s really that simple. The only ‘punishment’ here would be to prevent him from further ‘punishing’ Americans by his being in power again.And if you don’t think his presidency was punishing to all that is good and right and to those who believe in human decency, you might just as well forget this comment and go back to sleep

The best response to this idiotic cartoon came to me upon thinking of Stantis’ signature cartoon fragment:

“Why do you want to raise a second flag on Mt. Suribachi?”

“I want one big enough that every SOB on this island can see it.”

If he can be barred from office in the future, that is enough.

Crazy lying racist Trump committed crimes, its time for a reckoning.

The USA needs it after being traumatized by criminal covid spread republicans for 4 years.

If we don’t convict him we are acquiescing to the crime. In essence. That any President can break the law in the last days of his administration as long as the trail can be postponed until he leaves.

The point is not whether he’s still in office or not – the point is that politicians who incite violence against the Capitol and Constitutional processes should be punished.

Even if the patient dies, the attempt to eradicate the disease should go on.

Stantis believes that prosecution is exactly the same as persecution — IF it’s a Republican* that’s being prosecuted.

Trump should be convicted, disallowed from holding federal office of any kind, and deprived of his pension and all benefits of having been president.

Prosecutions for criminal acts should follow.

and never hold federal office!

If Trump is not impeached and convicted, it will set a precedent that a president can commit any atrocity while in office and not be held responsible for it upon exiting. That’s why. There need to be consequences.

It is Constitutional and done before. It makes sure he can never run for federal office. Been there, done that to more than presidents.

The point of impeachment at this time is #1: To prosecute his incitement of the rabble that stormed the capitol. #2: To make certain he never holds office ever again. Stantis’ attempt to make impeachment seem absurd is just that…. absurd.

Stantis knows.

Actually, the penalty for conviction is to keep him from being able to run for any federal office again.

He needs to be barred from ever holding office again.

@wsedrel: “He needs to be barred from ever holding office again.”

And he can be, if he’s convicted by the Senate, but Stantis doesn’t want anybody to know that.

*Dear Scott Stantis:

I have never been more disappointed in you than I am today.

Surely, you know, the only reason the trial is taking place after he left office is the Republican Party’s fault.

Just as surely as you know that there really isn’t much else Congress can do about him in the first place.

Just as surely as I know, thanks to Republican Party, DJT’s probably looking at yet another acquittal.

Unless that’s what you meant by a waste of time – Republican obstruction, as usual.

Oh, but I see above, you are squarely blaming the Democrats.

As usual.

SCOTT, ARE YOU LISTENING?*

Where Marjorie Taylor Green is getting the red carpet, and Liz Cheney is fighting for her job.

Welcome to the Q-publican Party!

Say one thing for stantis, he gets the audience wound up.

Now, if only he was a decent artist and a decent man. Sad.

This impeachment is really not about Trump. It’s about preserving democracy from the next autocrat. If there is no penalty for Trumps behavior, then the next autocrat will incite more riots and a coup. Republicans know this but are still fearful of Trump and his base.Anyone with integrity will convict him.Republicans fear losing a primary battle to a Trump supporter. What they should fear is losing multiple congressional seats to Democrats running against supporters like Marjorie Taylor Greene.Most people (70%) don’t believe the conspiracy theories.

No, he’s not the only one. How do we go about de-registering an entire party?

Without STRAWMEN the right would have nothing to talk about. The strawman in this instance being that the 5th panel… the reason for impeaching him is NOT to make him look bad… that has been done quite thoroughly by himself. The reasons… which they continue to try to ignore, include: setting precedent for this unprecedented treasonous act; preventing him from being able to hold Federal office again, because a lot of the country was just fine with the treason; stripping him of his tax payer funded post presidency salary, secret service detail, and other benefits; finally holding him accountable for once in his life; and hopefully discouraging others in the future from doing the same thing.

In fact the only reason the right doesn’t want to convict him for this obvious treasonous high crime is because they don’t want to look bad… which they will… if they vote to convict they will look bad to the rabid Trump base… if they vote not to convict they will look bad to true Americans who care about our laws, our country and our democracy.

STUPID is the pandemic among members of The Repulsican Crime Cult. Should Amerian ramp-up research to stop its spread? Nah, let the members of THE CULT perish. /s )<:|

Talk about a righteous waste of time??? What would you have called Benghazi? Oh…yeah that was time well spent. Right?

NO, you dope… the point is to convict him, then bar him from ever holding elected office again.

Let’s face it, there is nothing Dems could ever do that would make T**** look worse, he locked up “worst” anything long ago.

First we hang him then we shoot him. Never mind half the country ( or more, mileage may have varied if any evidence was actually looked at) voted for him. After all the healing has to begin.

Missing the Point: If he is convicted, he can Never Hold Any Office Again.

It prevents him from Running again or the danger that some ID10T RepubliKlan governator appoints him to fill a Congressional Vacancy.

OMG people! There are two good reasons to impeach him again even if he’s out of office: One, he must be held accountable for inciting an insurrection where people died, and two, it will guarantee that such a monster cannot run for office ever again and finish destroying the Nation!

@Scott Stantis – You are right the Donkeys are wrong, they are of course, a—es!

So the party that investigated Benghazi eight times calls this a “righteous waste of time.”

If you can’t try a President once he’s left office, then the whole section of the Constitution concerning impeachment is meaningless! Resigns (as Nixon did), gets pardon for anything he did, and “poof”, a sitting President can do anything he wants (if he has no sense of shame of course).

Good to see you’re consistently missing the point. The clown caused a riot, a Federal Guard was murdered, and promoted insurrection. This must be punished.But, by all means, keep on missing the point.

So he can never hold public office again. Idiot.

I know what all my friends and relatives from The Greatest Generation would say to #45 and all the insurrectionists from Jan 6…who knew we were surrounded by so many pukes?

One word Bengazi.

“Make . . . LOOK bad? Yeah. That’s the ticket. They’ll be there to besmirch a fine, patriotic, compassionate, wise human being – in the process destroying his image forever.

Sheesh.