But we CAN fix it for you, Mr. Snowflake. In order to force big tech to be a public forum, all you have to do it nationalize the tech firms. Wasn’t that simple? And it gets rid of all those nasty rich stockholders too. Win, win!
So “conservatives” have spent years and years slashing taxes and blocking antitrust endorsement, so successful tech companies can accumulate huge stockpiles of cash, buy up their smaller-but-growing competitors, and dominate their markets. And it turns around and bites them on the butt. Boo hoo.
Interestingly, Marjorie Taylor Greene held a PUBLIC town hall meeting. When a reporter asked her about some of her Face Book posts, the sheriff threatened to arrest the reporter for “trespassing”. republican QAnon “logic” at work.
Private companies can’t be forces to host seditious and traitorous speech that calls for attacking our country, otherwise they’d have to host terrorists and extremists like Al Qaeda, ISIS, Nazis, KKK, White Supremacists, Boogaloo Bois, Proud Boys, Q-=Anon, and several members of the GQP. They decided to draw the line rather than risk being charged as accomplices.
Isn’t the internet big tech? Are you, Varvel, published on the internet? Which is to say, Big Tech? So, is Big Tech stopping you? Apparently not. It’s not even forcing you to make sense.
I don’t think it has affected conservative speech; only lies and calls for violence. If you want lies and calls for violence you can still go to Fox opinionators.
The big tech companies about which some on the right-wing complain are pipelines for information. If they allow contamination from false information, they have a right to deal with it. Seditious information must be purged, in their view, because if it accumulates it will cause their service to be distrusted and boycotted. And why should those companies be party to their own destruction if the seditionists are successful in turning society to embrace fascistic methods of control? First off, would be increased government control of big tech companies, to their ultimate destruction — or worse, unprofitability. Often, practicality fortuitously takes on the robe of altruism.
I find that the cancel culture of the right is invariably more dangerous than that of the left. After all, the left never attacked congress and tried to murder Pence and Pelosi for criticizing DJT.
When the cons are willing to demand that Hobby Lobby add contraceptive coverage to their employees drug plan, then I’ll listen to their demands of big tech.
When it is mostly lies and conspiracy theories based on lies, it is a danger to the American Public (since most are too stupid to know the difference between facts and lies) it should be stopped
Mr. Varvel, when I voted for Reagan, I was considered a conservative: lower taxes, smaller government, trying to get ketchup declared a serving of vegetables in school lunches… you know, totally sane stuff…
Lying, repeated lying, denying school shootings, insisting on election fraud in front of a microphone but not in your court filings, immature name calling, telling supremacists to “stand by”, etc… is NOT “conservative speech”.
Oh and btw, the use of “Big (fill in industry)” was used by liberals back then as a put down against conservatives who were for market forces…
Gee Big Tech is a business and exists to show a profit. Like Faux News, if there are no customers they will close the doors. If they do not behave responsibly they can be sanctioned. Just because Twitter kicks you off that doesn’t mean you are silenced, you just don’t have that medium to express yourself. I am not obliged to share something I know to be a lie.
Conservatives can have all the free speech they want but no one can be forced to repeat it!
Well, Conservative speech now days seems to consist of threats of violence, racism, insults, hate speech and lies. Maybe you all should change the subject.
Since it is only hateful, riot inciting speech that is being banned by Big Tech, it is clear from his Cartoon that Varvel is equating Conservatism with that rabid vitriol. So, count this as one of the few times Varvel has created an accurate cartoon.
How often do you see left ideas seriously presented by the mainstream media? Such as a serious discussion of Marxism? Marx is arguably the most important social commentator of the nineteenth century. That doesn’t mean he’s right about everything, but it’s always worthwhile paying attention to what he had to say. And then there’s the anarchist critique of Marx. How often do you get to hear a serious anarchist (say, Noam Chomsky) interviewed on the mainstream media? The left has been very effectively shut down in the US.
Varvel thinks enciting riots is free speech. Varvel thinks plotting with your fellow traitors to over throw the government, fed and states, is free speech.
America has gone to war over the “free speech” that the the Taliban, Al-Shabaab, Boko Haram, ISIS and ISIL wanted to express. Using “Big Tech” in the US is a pretty feeble attempt.
And for those that think there is a difference.. that little episode on Jan 6th at the Capital should (but won’t) open your eyes to what is happening right at home.
Well, there’s conservative speech, and there’s MAGA MORON speech on the order of say; Marjorie Taylor green, so once again Varvel gets out his crayons for happy time.
Gary, there are well over 100 sites where conservatives can chat with one another (I realize this defeats your attempted message, but keep trying). [https://rightsmarts.com/top-conservative-websites/]
Sooo, Gary..you equate inciting violence and death threats to legitimate officials as “conservative speech”? Get over yourself, put on your big boy pants and try to be an adult
Republicans HAVE to lie.. When people are given a choice of two statements on issues that actually affect their everyday life, one that describes the Republican position and the other the Democrat’s, the Democratic position is chosen by about 80% of Democrats and Independents. No surprise there. The weird part is that just under half of Republicans also choose Democrat positions, unless they are told which position is supported by each party. Then they fall into line and choose the Republican option- 78% of the time. So, it is entirely reasonable for Republicans to lie a lot. The people running the Republican party are in that half of the Republicans who actually believe in Republican positions. They are roughly 25% of the voting public. They have no chance of ever winning a national election unless they keep as many people as possible from voting and keep the rest of them confused enough to vote against their own best interests.
Big tech is private industry. I thought conservatives were all about private industry being unfettered by government control? Oh, wait, right, only private industry that discriminates against the right people, not private industry that actually values intelligence and competence and doesn’t care what colour someone’s skin is or what dangly bits they do or don’t have. Private industry that doesn’t put up with your bullshit, in other words.
Since when is overthrowing the duly elected government a conservative ideal?Since when is murdering a police officer and injuring dozens of other a conservative policy?Since when is destroying the center of our countries democracy a conservative objective?
Conservatives only support “freedom of speech” when it means that conservative views are the only views allowed to be spoken… didn’t hear any of these conservatives denounce Trump when he wanted to censor media sources and take away their FCC licenses…
When you allow a private business to do censoring, the government has conceded the keys of governing to Big Business. Probably has been that way since the 1950’s, just more blatant now.
Last time I checked, Gary, you could still watch Fox News or Newsmax (which I don’t) or read a conservative paper (like The New York Post or the Washington Examiner, which I read on occasion). Facebook and Twitter are private sector companies who are within their right to ban posters who they consider inflammatory. Ditto for Google and Apple, who deleted Parler from Google Play and the AppStore, respectively. And you can still, if you want, watch or listen to, Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingraham, etc.
As long as some registered members of the Republican(?) Party continues to propose lies, untruths, and threats to the life and liberty of duly elected Democratic Congresspersons then their ability to spread such hate and insurrection has to be limited to preserve the United States of America. The First Amendment protects free speech, it does not protect insurrection speech, lies about “stolen” elections, or language that incites citizens to threaten, attack, or kill other citizens they do not agree with. The Republican “leadership” that allows certain members to flaunt existing laws and rules of Congress is the final example of FAILURE. The majority party in both houses has to exhibit leadership and take control of Congress and not allow aberrant Republicans to incite fear or anxiety in their workplace. Such behavior would result in immediate dismissal in any civilian company. Why is it accepted in the very place where the laws protecting workers from attack, fear, or anxiety were written. If Congress cannot police itself, then other measures must be taken to protect the “enemy” members as seen by Republican terrorists regardless if they were “duly” elected.
Not conservative speech, just outright lies, conspiracy theories, hate speech, incitement to violence and sedition…oh, yeah, I guess it does block conservative speech.
Get real Gary. Terms of Service. You know TOS, don’t you? Agree to the terms? Then when you break the terms, you get removed. You’re still able to shout your rubbish from the roof tops, just not on the platforms.
Oh, puleeze. Want to test how far free speech will go, and yes I posted this somewhere else today. Next time you are at the airport yell “BOMB!” and let’s see how that lesson in free speech works out for you.
How about remove Section 230 Protections. Nationalizing Tech firms would be a repeat of when the State Government in Nevada took over running a (to be politically correct) a house of ill repute and liquor store, because they hadn’t paid their taxes properly. Three months later they sold it back to the original owners because the AUTHORITIES couldn’t turn a profit!
Concretionist over 3 years ago
What utter BS.
But we CAN fix it for you, Mr. Snowflake. In order to force big tech to be a public forum, all you have to do it nationalize the tech firms. Wasn’t that simple? And it gets rid of all those nasty rich stockholders too. Win, win!
(moderate sarcasm)
Daeder over 3 years ago
“Give me lies or give me death!”
Say What Now‽ Premium Member over 3 years ago
Varvel is upset that he can’t spew his lies on line. Oh wait, he’s still here isn’t he.
Judge Magney over 3 years ago
So “conservatives” have spent years and years slashing taxes and blocking antitrust endorsement, so successful tech companies can accumulate huge stockpiles of cash, buy up their smaller-but-growing competitors, and dominate their markets. And it turns around and bites them on the butt. Boo hoo.
RAGs over 3 years ago
Interestingly, Marjorie Taylor Greene held a PUBLIC town hall meeting. When a reporter asked her about some of her Face Book posts, the sheriff threatened to arrest the reporter for “trespassing”. republican QAnon “logic” at work.
abraxas over 3 years ago
Oh boy! Gary is back. What a joke! I’m laughing so hard I spit my latte.
braindead Premium Member over 3 years ago
Once again Trump Disciple Varvel LIES.
You cannot find any social media that is not inundated with “conservatives” screaming about how they are being silenced.
Patjade over 3 years ago
Private companies can’t be forces to host seditious and traitorous speech that calls for attacking our country, otherwise they’d have to host terrorists and extremists like Al Qaeda, ISIS, Nazis, KKK, White Supremacists, Boogaloo Bois, Proud Boys, Q-=Anon, and several members of the GQP. They decided to draw the line rather than risk being charged as accomplices.
scote1379 Premium Member over 3 years ago
Funny I thought that the GQP were all about free market and private business doing what they like!
cdward over 3 years ago
Isn’t the internet big tech? Are you, Varvel, published on the internet? Which is to say, Big Tech? So, is Big Tech stopping you? Apparently not. It’s not even forcing you to make sense.
sykerocker over 3 years ago
I guess he’s forgotten the Rush Limbaugh days?
Valiant1943 Premium Member over 3 years ago
Conservative speech? Like crying fire in a crowded room?
JackReecher over 3 years ago
spot on. my free speech as a conservative is restricted on FB and Twitter. FACT!
Taste the air Premium Member over 3 years ago
I don’t think it has affected conservative speech; only lies and calls for violence. If you want lies and calls for violence you can still go to Fox opinionators.
DonnyTwoScoops over 3 years ago
Aww, poor babies. You mean you can’t use a private company’s platform to spread lies? That’s some Auschwitz level oppression right there.
NeedaChuckle Premium Member over 3 years ago
How about if they were baking companies? Would it be okay then?
PraiseofFolly over 3 years ago
The big tech companies about which some on the right-wing complain are pipelines for information. If they allow contamination from false information, they have a right to deal with it. Seditious information must be purged, in their view, because if it accumulates it will cause their service to be distrusted and boycotted. And why should those companies be party to their own destruction if the seditionists are successful in turning society to embrace fascistic methods of control? First off, would be increased government control of big tech companies, to their ultimate destruction — or worse, unprofitability. Often, practicality fortuitously takes on the robe of altruism.
brit-ed over 3 years ago
This is only accurate if conservative = dangerous liar. Is that what you’re saying?
walfishj over 3 years ago
I find that the cancel culture of the right is invariably more dangerous than that of the left. After all, the left never attacked congress and tried to murder Pence and Pelosi for criticizing DJT.
suzalee over 3 years ago
Conservative speech okay—-lies that radicalize people not okay
Pat Towey over 3 years ago
Just a question. If the school steals thought critical thinking, would we be having so much problem with lies and Q anon fantasy theories?
JoeBabbs over 3 years ago
When the cons are willing to demand that Hobby Lobby add contraceptive coverage to their employees drug plan, then I’ll listen to their demands of big tech.
Ontman over 3 years ago
It’s painful to see Varvel continually lie.
superposition over 3 years ago
Note how the dictionary shows the difference between conservative and political conservative.
Conservative
adjective
1. averse to change or innovation and holding traditional values.
Similar: traditionalist traditional conventional orthodox stable old-fashioned dyed-in-the-wool unchanging hidebound cautious prudent careful safe timid unadventurous unenterprising set in one’s ways moderate middle-of-the-road temperate stick in the mud
Opposite: radical
2. (in a political context) favoring free enterprise, private ownership, and socially traditional ideas.
Similar: right-wing reactionary traditionalist unprogressive establishmentarian blimpishultra-right fundamentalist alt-right Tory Republican true-blue
Opposite: socialist
Totalloser Premium Member over 3 years ago
When it is mostly lies and conspiracy theories based on lies, it is a danger to the American Public (since most are too stupid to know the difference between facts and lies) it should be stopped
William Bednar Premium Member over 3 years ago
Yeah, we all heard “Conservative Speech”, and saw it’s results on Jan. 6, 2021. Big Tech did what was needed to stop further mayhem.
Tralfaz Premium Member over 3 years ago
Mr. Varvel, when I voted for Reagan, I was considered a conservative: lower taxes, smaller government, trying to get ketchup declared a serving of vegetables in school lunches… you know, totally sane stuff…
Lying, repeated lying, denying school shootings, insisting on election fraud in front of a microphone but not in your court filings, immature name calling, telling supremacists to “stand by”, etc… is NOT “conservative speech”.
Oh and btw, the use of “Big (fill in industry)” was used by liberals back then as a put down against conservatives who were for market forces…
Flatlander, purveyor of fine covfefe over 3 years ago
Gee Big Tech is a business and exists to show a profit. Like Faux News, if there are no customers they will close the doors. If they do not behave responsibly they can be sanctioned. Just because Twitter kicks you off that doesn’t mean you are silenced, you just don’t have that medium to express yourself. I am not obliged to share something I know to be a lie.
Conservatives can have all the free speech they want but no one can be forced to repeat it!
ChristopherBurns over 3 years ago
Well, Conservative speech now days seems to consist of threats of violence, racism, insults, hate speech and lies. Maybe you all should change the subject.
Another Take over 3 years ago
Since it is only hateful, riot inciting speech that is being banned by Big Tech, it is clear from his Cartoon that Varvel is equating Conservatism with that rabid vitriol. So, count this as one of the few times Varvel has created an accurate cartoon.
Wlly Blly over 3 years ago
Easy way to unmute “conservative speech”, stop lying and spreading disinformation.
lonecat over 3 years ago
How often do you see left ideas seriously presented by the mainstream media? Such as a serious discussion of Marxism? Marx is arguably the most important social commentator of the nineteenth century. That doesn’t mean he’s right about everything, but it’s always worthwhile paying attention to what he had to say. And then there’s the anarchist critique of Marx. How often do you get to hear a serious anarchist (say, Noam Chomsky) interviewed on the mainstream media? The left has been very effectively shut down in the US.
rmfrye Premium Member over 3 years ago
Wrong again, snowflake.
MG over 3 years ago
The tire treaded sign would better read “Conspiracy Speech” but that is too close to the truth for Varvel. And much less incendiary.
Radish the wordsmith over 3 years ago
No one is allowed to lie constantly and foment violent revolution.
If BLM was doing that right wingers would clap them in irons.
Just because right wingers pretend they are above the law it doesn’t cut any ice with the majority of Americans.
Kurtass Premium Member over 3 years ago
Varvel thinks enciting riots is free speech. Varvel thinks plotting with your fellow traitors to over throw the government, fed and states, is free speech.
Radish the wordsmith over 3 years ago
Corporations are tired of violent lying right wingers using their media to kill people.
Alberta Oil Premium Member over 3 years ago
America has gone to war over the “free speech” that the the Taliban, Al-Shabaab, Boko Haram, ISIS and ISIL wanted to express. Using “Big Tech” in the US is a pretty feeble attempt.
And for those that think there is a difference.. that little episode on Jan 6th at the Capital should (but won’t) open your eyes to what is happening right at home.
d.davies0809@gmail.com over 3 years ago
Well, there’s conservative speech, and there’s MAGA MORON speech on the order of say; Marjorie Taylor green, so once again Varvel gets out his crayons for happy time.
thelordthygod666 over 3 years ago
Gary, there are well over 100 sites where conservatives can chat with one another (I realize this defeats your attempted message, but keep trying). [https://rightsmarts.com/top-conservative-websites/]
d.davies0809@gmail.com over 3 years ago
The truck didn’t run over Varvels head, so he’s still with us, what a shame.
Diamond Lil over 3 years ago
Sooo, Gary..you equate inciting violence and death threats to legitimate officials as “conservative speech”? Get over yourself, put on your big boy pants and try to be an adult
Diane Lee Premium Member over 3 years ago
Republicans HAVE to lie.. When people are given a choice of two statements on issues that actually affect their everyday life, one that describes the Republican position and the other the Democrat’s, the Democratic position is chosen by about 80% of Democrats and Independents. No surprise there. The weird part is that just under half of Republicans also choose Democrat positions, unless they are told which position is supported by each party. Then they fall into line and choose the Republican option- 78% of the time. So, it is entirely reasonable for Republicans to lie a lot. The people running the Republican party are in that half of the Republicans who actually believe in Republican positions. They are roughly 25% of the voting public. They have no chance of ever winning a national election unless they keep as many people as possible from voting and keep the rest of them confused enough to vote against their own best interests.
WCraft Premium Member over 3 years ago
Police to Democratic neighbors: “Can any of you give us a description of who hit the victim?” Democratic Neighbors: “We didn’t see anything…”
davidthoms1 over 3 years ago
Since when are flat out lies “conservative speech”?
dpatrickryan Premium Member over 3 years ago
Big tech is private industry. I thought conservatives were all about private industry being unfettered by government control? Oh, wait, right, only private industry that discriminates against the right people, not private industry that actually values intelligence and competence and doesn’t care what colour someone’s skin is or what dangly bits they do or don’t have. Private industry that doesn’t put up with your bullshit, in other words.
red6235 over 3 years ago
Since when is overthrowing the duly elected government a conservative ideal?Since when is murdering a police officer and injuring dozens of other a conservative policy?Since when is destroying the center of our countries democracy a conservative objective?
ferddo over 3 years ago
Conservatives only support “freedom of speech” when it means that conservative views are the only views allowed to be spoken… didn’t hear any of these conservatives denounce Trump when he wanted to censor media sources and take away their FCC licenses…
cwg over 3 years ago
News Alert: Over 78,000 Facebook, Instagram Users Removed for Allegedly Violating QAnon and ‘Militarization’ Policies
BeniHanna6 Premium Member over 3 years ago
When you allow a private business to do censoring, the government has conceded the keys of governing to Big Business. Probably has been that way since the 1950’s, just more blatant now.
rs0204 Premium Member over 3 years ago
And yet we are reading your Conservative Speech using Big Tech.
Have ever heard of the word “irony” Gary?
Northgalus2002 over 3 years ago
Last time I checked, Gary, you could still watch Fox News or Newsmax (which I don’t) or read a conservative paper (like The New York Post or the Washington Examiner, which I read on occasion). Facebook and Twitter are private sector companies who are within their right to ban posters who they consider inflammatory. Ditto for Google and Apple, who deleted Parler from Google Play and the AppStore, respectively. And you can still, if you want, watch or listen to, Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingraham, etc.
walkingmancomics over 3 years ago
Oh look: Mr. Varvel’s lost his platform! Can’t get his views out publicly. So Sad. Oh! Wait a minute—.
jhayesd31 over 3 years ago
Conservative speech Equals Rudy Yelling Trial by Combat to a Heavily armed Group of Thugs that stormed the Capitol.
Conservatives Speech = Treasonous Speech. Just ask the Family of the Police officer killed by “Conservative” Thugs.
cwg over 3 years ago
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/no-hard-questions-biden-team-considers-banning-conservative-media-press-briefings/
svcman98 over 3 years ago
As long as some registered members of the Republican(?) Party continues to propose lies, untruths, and threats to the life and liberty of duly elected Democratic Congresspersons then their ability to spread such hate and insurrection has to be limited to preserve the United States of America. The First Amendment protects free speech, it does not protect insurrection speech, lies about “stolen” elections, or language that incites citizens to threaten, attack, or kill other citizens they do not agree with. The Republican “leadership” that allows certain members to flaunt existing laws and rules of Congress is the final example of FAILURE. The majority party in both houses has to exhibit leadership and take control of Congress and not allow aberrant Republicans to incite fear or anxiety in their workplace. Such behavior would result in immediate dismissal in any civilian company. Why is it accepted in the very place where the laws protecting workers from attack, fear, or anxiety were written. If Congress cannot police itself, then other measures must be taken to protect the “enemy” members as seen by Republican terrorists regardless if they were “duly” elected.
StackableContainers over 3 years ago
It’s not intolerance to not abide other people’s bigotry and intolerance.
ltwhale over 3 years ago
Bunch a crybabies
"I can't take it anymore"" Premium Member over 3 years ago
All you have to do is stop the lying and misinformation from the conservative party and we will be good.
Nantucket Premium Member over 3 years ago
Varvel is openly admitting that so-called “conservative speech” consists of bold-faced lies and incitement to commit violence and insurrection.
IDEALeducation over 3 years ago
Varvel is a traitor. Remember January 6th.
TrulyTexan over 3 years ago
Not conservative speech, just outright lies, conspiracy theories, hate speech, incitement to violence and sedition…oh, yeah, I guess it does block conservative speech.
ira.crank over 3 years ago
The QuackAnon Con-servatives
grumpypophobart over 3 years ago
Get real Gary. Terms of Service. You know TOS, don’t you? Agree to the terms? Then when you break the terms, you get removed. You’re still able to shout your rubbish from the roof tops, just not on the platforms.
DrDon1 over 3 years ago
Varvel doing his best Snowflake ‘impression’
Radish the wordsmith over 3 years ago
“You lie!”
T Smith over 3 years ago
“BIG TRUTH”
There, fixed it for you.
GiantShetlandPony over 3 years ago
Oh, puleeze. Want to test how far free speech will go, and yes I posted this somewhere else today. Next time you are at the airport yell “BOMB!” and let’s see how that lesson in free speech works out for you.
jader3rd over 3 years ago
They are not running over Conservative speech, they are running over provable lies which are making members of society fight against each other.
AllenHudsonVeasman Premium Member over 3 years ago
How about remove Section 230 Protections. Nationalizing Tech firms would be a repeat of when the State Government in Nevada took over running a (to be politically correct) a house of ill repute and liquor store, because they hadn’t paid their taxes properly. Three months later they sold it back to the original owners because the AUTHORITIES couldn’t turn a profit!
359mxn over 3 years ago
Apparently doesn’t apply to cartoonists.