Gary Varvel for July 20, 2022

1: One out of how many incidents?

2: Even with a gun, how many would use them (Think Uvalde).

Too bad not everyone isn’t Rambo like they’d like to fantasize.

One incident out of several hundred. It’s like saying it’s OK to jump out of a plane without a parachute because one person survived. Imagine how many more people would survive if assault weapons weren’t as prevalent as cell phones? But that doesn’t fit in with the RW narrative.

^ Ask the people who were saved at the Indiana mall by an armed bystander if they agree that their lives are worthless. Good luck finding a news source to help you. And don’t be surprised if those people tell you that your opinion is even more worthless.

BULL! 400 with guns did absolutely nothing!!!! all those children died….

An analysis of 433 mass shootings shows that in approx 25.4% of all cases the shooter died from suicide. And looking at the subset of mass shootings before police arrive, in 28.9% of cases, the shooter died from suicide.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/06/22/us/shootings-police-response-uvalde-buffalo.html

Even if an armed citizen can take out a shooter willing to die by suicide, it will only REDUCE the eventual number of gunshot victims, but there will be victims. Remember, the bad guy with a gun HAS to shoot first BEFORE the good guy with a gun can respond, or else the good guy with a gun will face charges for shooting someone simply carrying a weapon in public, which is actually allowed in some states…

Or are those victim’s lives/wounds just a small price to pay for 2nd Amendment rights?

Moral: A citizenry armed will not PREVENT shootings. Prevention is always better than responding.

So, when confronted with ordinary guns, a mass murderer would run away? Really? In which universe is this cartoonist living? The mass murderer would blow them away before they reached their guns. It ducks the question of having such powerful weapons of war.

A gun-free country is the best option.

Good citizens doing what they are supposed to do in the absence of police. If they are legally carrying their firearms then they can protect their neighbor against criminal thugs.

They were BOTH law-abiding gun purchasers and owners.

Until they weren’t.

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James 2:24

Hey Gary! Guess what? There were 376 cops at Robb Elementary!! Just because 1 person stepped up at a mall shooting is not indicative of the hundreds that are shot and killed and year.

Varvel omits the dead and wounded. If the notion is that shootouts are the cure, then he and the people liking this foolishness are blind to the disease.

We shouldn’t be in the position that we have to defend ourselves constantly everywhere in the country from gun nuts.

Three people were killed before the shooter was shot. I bet they are really glad the good guy had a gun, and the bad guy still had his 2nd amendment freedums.

While the Indiana man who killed the mass murderer is indeed a hero he is 1) Lucky none of his 10 shots hit an innocent 2) Lucky he didn’t get shot by the police who could have believed he was the murderer.

Now that we live once again in the Wild West, albeit with more powerful weapons, anyone who “open carries” should be prepared to lay down their life to stop a crime. If they honestly answer themselves that they wouldn’t, then they may as well put on spurs and chaps to complete their tough-guy fantasy. Or leave the gun at home.

Gary has drunk the koo-aid! The more people carrying guns around, the more people shot. That correlation has proven correct time after time, year after year, State after State and country after country. And it accounts for hundreds of innocents for every bad guy!

In 1994, President Bill Clinton signed an assault-weapons ban, which banned the AR-15 and other similar semiautomatic rifles.

After its ban, mass shootings were down in the decade that followed, in comparison to the decade before (1984-94) and the one after (2004-14), NPR reported in 2018.

(https://www.npr.org/2022/05/26/1101274322/uvalde-ar-15-style-rifle-history-shooter-mass-shooting)

well the “good guys” with a gun in Uvalde didn’t do it! What were they doing besides sanitizing their hands?!?!?!?

More mentally ill right wing gun cheer leading.

We have more gun deaths than any civilized society thanks to the liberal gun laws crafted by the GOP and NRA.

The right wing gun lovers will seize on ANY evidence they can get to justify their intransigence about guns, no matter how thin it is.

I see your Mall Shooter/Good Guy with a gun and raise you the Buffalo shooter, where a good guy with gun couldn’t save himself, let alone the other people killed and Uvalde where 400 good guys with lots of guns could do nothing to save 19 children and 2 teachers.

350 good guy cops with guns did not stop the Texas school shooter.

There are 400 million guns in the USA, 3% of the population own 133 million of them

Joe Rogan Suggests Shooting “The Homeless People” as a Way of Dealing With the Los Angeles Unhoused.

Tom Segura: When you see stuff like that on the streets, at least in Los Angeles or California, that’s protected property. Like by law. That’s that’s person’s property by law.

Joe Rogan: Oh, a homeless person’s property is protected?

Segura: Absolutely. If you were to try to move that or take that—

Rogan: You’d get arrested. Hilarious. But they wouldn’t arrest you if you shot somebody. Maybe you should just go shoot the homeless people.

Segura: I like your ideas.

Indiana mall shooter fired 24 times in 15 seconds before he was killed

Why are guns like that legal and available to the public?

How many of Stephen Paddocks victims in Las Vegas were armed? It was an outdoor concert

He fired from an obscured window on the 40th floor. No matter how may people were firing at him from below they would have had no effect if if they COULD spot him.

By the way he have had 25 Mass shooting with 4 or more victims in the last 10 days.

100 people without the “Good Guy with a Gun” showing up. Those 100 people will not get any mention on Fox News as they fall over themselves to tell us that an armed populace is the only thing that can save us from an armed populace

Good on young Mr. Dicken. A “perfect” good guy with a gun scenario.

How often does this actually work? There is some information out on this:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/06/22/us/shootings-police-response-uvalde-buffalo.html

At Greenwood Park Mall, 3 died despite the heroism. In instances like Highland Park and Las Vegas concert shooting, massive carnage is done before any “good guy” could possibly intervene. At Uvalde, innumerable “good guys” on site accomplished effectively nothing.

The “good guy with the gun” is just like the brave passerby who rescues someone from the burning tenement. But, that hero is not the solution to the substandard housing problem. The doctor saving the life of the victim of a crash with a drunk driver provides no protection to the general public from impaired drivers. We’d rather treat the symptoms instead of the disease.

Would that we could collectively pull our heads out of our behinds and seek comprehensive solutions. I own a few handguns and rifles. License me. Require safety training.

My 2nd Amendment friends (grandsons actually) may say that licensing is the first step toward confiscation. I’ve had a driver’s license for 50 years. Not been confiscated once. Neither has my car.

But criminals won’t license. Of course the won’t, but licensure is a neat trick for law enforcement. It creates a pretext, if you will, for taking guns away from and flagging the lawbreaker if and when there is an encounter with the cops.

Treat gun violence as a public health crisis: https://www.npr.org/2022/02/05/1078546542/what-it-would-take-to-treat-gun-violence-as-a-public-health-crisis

The horses are out of the barn on this. Our friends in the gun industry and at the Supreme Court have set many obstacles in the way of rounding them up and closing the door behind them.

The answer does not lie in the GGWTG.

How long till the police mistakenly kill the good guy with a gun, thinking he is a bad guy with a gun? If I were a police officer on a scene everyone is a bad guy as far as I was concerned. Especially thevones with guns.

hahaha! Very funny! Those 3 in the doorway with handguns would be dead within a minute. Let’s see – they aren’t in their bullet proof combat gear and anyone who has fired a handgun knows that it is difficult to aim and hit a target, especially under stressful circumstances. The guy with the bulletproof gear and assault rifle would take them out immediately. Of course, we already have an example of how effective a group of trained police officers with assault weapons were against a single mass shooter. This cartoon is beyond ridiculous.

Imagine you are in a mall. Shooting breaks out. Everybody breaks out their gun. Who is the shooter and where? Could it be the woman standing just a few feet from you, or the guy standing at the pizza kiosk? Better not take any chances, huh? Take both of them out. Mwnwhile, someone else has seen you shooting.

Learning what to do in such situations takes a lot of specialized training.

Seems this young Hero did some fine shooting. He fired 10 shots from between 40-50 yards hitting the murderer with 8 ! The young man had no military/police training yet kept his calm moving toward the murderer. He waved innocents by as he closed the range, let me tell you hitting a moving rifle armed bad guy at 40 yards is beyond amazing. Mr. Dicken’s deserves a medal & parade for stepping up and doing what needed to be done. America is done being a victim, the time has come to take the streets back. Thank You.

Just a true story to recount:

A number of years ago, a friend who was a brown belt in Karate said that his sensei, who was one of the ranking black belts in this country, told his class about someone pulling a gun on him and demanding money. He set up the scene with himself as the victim and had one student stand in for the gunman. He asked the students what they thought he did. They came up with many scenarios. He told them that he slowly handed the man his wallet.

Also, a few years ago I was talking with a friend who had been in Vietnam for over a year and a half as an Army Ranger. My friend pointed out that what happens in that kind of situation depends a lot on what type of training and experience the man had. If someone is not trained and experienced, he will see you move, the information will go to his brain where he will decode what is happening and decide what to do before he pulls the trigger. If the man is trained and experienced, it will bypass the brain and go from the eye directly to the trigger finger, No delay. When I got out of Vietnam, I found that I had to spend a lot of time toning down my reflexes so I didn’t hurt or kill someone who did not deserve it.

Seems like someone was educated in a School Free Gun Zone to come up with this unsubstantiated nonsense.

So, instead of controlling guns we are supposed to live like we are in gangland or a war zone? Seriously?

And if the “good” guy with the gun is holding it when the police come, how do the police know he’s the “good” one? Might as well shoot them both, eh? Especially if one of them in black. Seems like the white folks only want white folks to have unrestricted access to guns. And we know that white folks don’t kill anyone (discounting the school shooters, the Vegas shooter, and, well, basically every mass shooter we’ve had)…

only a halfwit would think that the solution to shooters is more people waving guns at each other…

And I heard that the brave,armed citizen hit the shooter 8 times…..thank u,kind sir!

Except those people would be dead first.

Fewer than 1 in 100 shooters are stopped by “good guys with guns.” It’s a fantasy.

While I am glad that they managed to pass one of the biggest gun control bills in nearly a decade, I am disappointed that the bill didn’t include reinstating the ban on assault rifles and other mass shooter weapons of choice. If it was up to me, only soldiers in combat will be allowed to use them. I know all too well that evil finds a way, but a reasonably fit person can outrun a guy with a knife or a baseball bat more easily than a guy with a handgun, and an assault rifle? Forget it!

Yeah, a Good Samaritan with a gun took out a would-be mass murderer. Good thing for everyone that the Good Samaritan was a good shot. The next time someone else tries this in a public setting, the results may not be so pleasant.

Where they closed a Starbucks in Seattle 18 shots were fired after a club let out the other day.

Gang bangers are out of control, due to liberal gun laws they have all of the guns they need to kill each other.

I’ll take a good guy with a gun anytime, as the dem’s are all about “Defund the Police”, so we have to be able to defend ourselves.

pistols work better for self-defense.

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