Bernie is sincere, which is a good trait. And he’s consistent… and consistently working mostly for his constituents and the rest of us, which is a good trait. And he’s got experience in the Senate without being coopted, which is a good trait. And he’s bound and determined to make you believe which does seem to keep the volume at max.
Yeah, Bernie yells. The man has passion, something the other candidates seem to lack. I know where Bernie stands on the issues. He’s stood there for decades. Meanwhile, most of the other candidates are trying to sound like Bernie without angering their corporate donors.
I was able to watch a few minutes of the last debates during my first break at work. Buttigieg was asked about withdrawing troops within his first year of being President. When he was done talking, I had to turn to a coworker and ask if his answer sounded like a yes or a no.
Frankly, in a choice between yelling, pandering, and political non-answers, I’ll go with the yelling every time. I can turn down the volume on the TV, but I can’t turn on a political speak translator or sincerity meter.
Those outside the center can drag the center towards them over time. For example, I don’t think the U.S. will completely eliminate private health care insurance as he wants but will go to a public (Medicare) – private model. His voting records on gun control, which are abysmal and protects the gun manufacturers in his home state are a complete sell-out.
He wants to give away the store, and so does Warren! Does ANYONE REALIZE our TAXES will go up? For me, the both of them are too extreme left and too excitable to be leaders….we need intelligent, calm, and experienced in the WH! Something 54% of Americans yearn for….
I.. don’t understand why the Democrats allow Bernie to stand on a stage with “Democratic Candidates”. He.. (Bernie) wants to be an Independent.. let him.. stop supporting this raging old man. I appreciate the party is afraid of loosing voters.. but stand up for your principals or you may as well go home. Supposing Bernie wins.. you think as an Independent he has loyalty to Democrats? Personally I think America would be better served with an Independent president .. but that is not the system you have.
I’m going to keep shouting this from the rooftops until all the Democrats not named Bernie and Elizabeth start admitting it. You all want to just have a public option on health care that will keep private insurance around because going straight to Medicare-For-All is just too much and these poor people demand choice in everything. Choice! Choice! Choice! We have to have a choice, you trumpet around.
There is only one way a public option doesn’t obliterate 99% of health insurance companies is if the public option you roll out SUCKS! You really think that if you roll out a public option that is cheaper, with lower co-pays and total caps on costs for less money than current private insurance plans that businesses aren’t going to switch to it immediately? So there goes your stupid argument that if you love your insurance through your employer (as if there is anyone on the planet that has used their insurance loves it) you can keep it. You think anyone on the open market is going to stick with their more expensive plan? NOOOOOOO!!!
So for the love of God, just stop lying to the people or admit that you’re lying when you say you’re going to push for a public option. Because one of those 2 is true. And if you have to have a choice so freaking badly, pick between having good health insurance you can use without bankrupting yourself or running headfirst into a brick wall repeatedly. See, there’s a choice for you.
The question is; where will the votes flow to as the field shrinks?
Harris voters MIGHT flow to Biden, but most of the rest of the supporters of the wanna-bee’s will gravitate to Sanders and Warren. Mostly Warren. Right now the combined support for Warren and Sanders beats Biden by 10+%.
The simple reality is that either Warren or Sanders is going to slide, and the bulk of those voters will shift to whoever is left standing. I see them shifting from Sanders to Warren. They are not going to support Biden.
The general election will be Trump v Warren, and this nation will NOT elect an overt Socialist. She doesn’t own the label but she walks the walk and talks the talk.
The GOP has a rheostat too. It regulates the amplification of their distortion, spin, lies and propaganda. It’s always full on… all the settings read “FOX”… (with one exception, Shepard Smith, who seems to have some self-respect and refuses to be a sycophant)
Concretionist over 4 years ago
Bernie is sincere, which is a good trait. And he’s consistent… and consistently working mostly for his constituents and the rest of us, which is a good trait. And he’s got experience in the Senate without being coopted, which is a good trait. And he’s bound and determined to make you believe which does seem to keep the volume at max.
Jason Allen over 4 years ago
Yeah, Bernie yells. The man has passion, something the other candidates seem to lack. I know where Bernie stands on the issues. He’s stood there for decades. Meanwhile, most of the other candidates are trying to sound like Bernie without angering their corporate donors.
I was able to watch a few minutes of the last debates during my first break at work. Buttigieg was asked about withdrawing troops within his first year of being President. When he was done talking, I had to turn to a coworker and ask if his answer sounded like a yes or a no.
Frankly, in a choice between yelling, pandering, and political non-answers, I’ll go with the yelling every time. I can turn down the volume on the TV, but I can’t turn on a political speak translator or sincerity meter.
Walrus Gumbo Premium Member over 4 years ago
Spinal Tap’s goes to 11.
wolfhoundblues1 over 4 years ago
YES!! There are 11 of them!
mourdac Premium Member over 4 years ago
Those outside the center can drag the center towards them over time. For example, I don’t think the U.S. will completely eliminate private health care insurance as he wants but will go to a public (Medicare) – private model. His voting records on gun control, which are abysmal and protects the gun manufacturers in his home state are a complete sell-out.
Gen.Flashman over 4 years ago
I would have thought Bernie would be able to turn it up all they way to 11
morningglory73 Premium Member over 4 years ago
Bernie is consistent no doubt but not president material tho’ I would vote for him it he was the only alternative to Drumpf.
WestNYC Premium Member over 4 years ago
Bolshie Bernie is hard of hearing due to his advanced age, no surprises there.
Zebrastripes over 4 years ago
He wants to give away the store, and so does Warren! Does ANYONE REALIZE our TAXES will go up? For me, the both of them are too extreme left and too excitable to be leaders….we need intelligent, calm, and experienced in the WH! Something 54% of Americans yearn for….
magicwalnut Premium Member over 4 years ago
Oh, what a terrible thing. Our taxes will go up! You get what you pay for, in case you forgot.
ideations over 4 years ago
Bernie reminds me of the Howdy Doody character Mr Bluster
superposition over 4 years ago
And the US has such cost-effective medical coverage and those really out of proportion high taxes!
https://www.jhsph.edu/news/news-releases/2019/us-health-care-spending-highest-among-developed-countries.html
https://nomadcapitalist.com/2017/08/07/countries-with-the-highest-tax/
MichaelMcGinnis1 over 4 years ago
Maybe he needs to turn it up to 11
thelordthygod666 over 4 years ago
The one thing Bernie and Donald have in common is neither has accepted a new idea since 1978.
Alberta Oil Premium Member over 4 years ago
I.. don’t understand why the Democrats allow Bernie to stand on a stage with “Democratic Candidates”. He.. (Bernie) wants to be an Independent.. let him.. stop supporting this raging old man. I appreciate the party is afraid of loosing voters.. but stand up for your principals or you may as well go home. Supposing Bernie wins.. you think as an Independent he has loyalty to Democrats? Personally I think America would be better served with an Independent president .. but that is not the system you have.
smartman over 4 years ago
I’m going to keep shouting this from the rooftops until all the Democrats not named Bernie and Elizabeth start admitting it. You all want to just have a public option on health care that will keep private insurance around because going straight to Medicare-For-All is just too much and these poor people demand choice in everything. Choice! Choice! Choice! We have to have a choice, you trumpet around.
There is only one way a public option doesn’t obliterate 99% of health insurance companies is if the public option you roll out SUCKS! You really think that if you roll out a public option that is cheaper, with lower co-pays and total caps on costs for less money than current private insurance plans that businesses aren’t going to switch to it immediately? So there goes your stupid argument that if you love your insurance through your employer (as if there is anyone on the planet that has used their insurance loves it) you can keep it. You think anyone on the open market is going to stick with their more expensive plan? NOOOOOOO!!!
So for the love of God, just stop lying to the people or admit that you’re lying when you say you’re going to push for a public option. Because one of those 2 is true. And if you have to have a choice so freaking badly, pick between having good health insurance you can use without bankrupting yourself or running headfirst into a brick wall repeatedly. See, there’s a choice for you.
LundySteele over 4 years ago
Hear the BERN!!!
Andylit Premium Member over 4 years ago
The question is; where will the votes flow to as the field shrinks?
Harris voters MIGHT flow to Biden, but most of the rest of the supporters of the wanna-bee’s will gravitate to Sanders and Warren. Mostly Warren. Right now the combined support for Warren and Sanders beats Biden by 10+%.
The simple reality is that either Warren or Sanders is going to slide, and the bulk of those voters will shift to whoever is left standing. I see them shifting from Sanders to Warren. They are not going to support Biden.
The general election will be Trump v Warren, and this nation will NOT elect an overt Socialist. She doesn’t own the label but she walks the walk and talks the talk.
79nysv over 4 years ago
Time for a younger person in office. By the by I’m as old as he is.
feverjr Premium Member over 4 years ago
The GOP has a rheostat too. It regulates the amplification of their distortion, spin, lies and propaganda. It’s always full on… all the settings read “FOX”… (with one exception, Shepard Smith, who seems to have some self-respect and refuses to be a sycophant)