This is all about revenge and nothing else! It doesn’t say a whole lot about the government and governor of the second rate state of Florida that they believe that revenge should take presidency over everything else! Then again, they are Republicans. It is, also, no surprise that the Republicans, their sycophants/apologists and the republican owned servants,especially the ones who post here (squggles, the lily-livered gutless wonder, the mongoose and the rest of their ilk) will support it. What Disney should do now, is leave the state and go somewhere where they are appreciated because,it is very clear,that governor de-goofball does not appreciate all the money that Disney brings to his state.
Hey Satan-tis, good luck explaining why all those taxes are now getting passed onto the people in your state since Disney won’t be paying ’em now. You done screwed the pooch way more that the mouse, sucker!
Oooo lookee here, there’s a hefty price tag for your dumbass actions, ya loser.
And it’d really screw your butt into a hole in the ground if they just up and closed down, and moved outta state. Where ya gonna find jobs for those folks? Where are all those tourist dollars gonna be coming from if they leave. You need them a whole pantload more than they need you, fool.
Maybe another state nearby would love to step in and offer The Mouse a new home, so Florida can go back to being a 3rd world swampland where students go to party in the Spring and old people go to die.
When Disney first looked at breaking ground in Central Florida for a new theme park in the 1960s, the area was virtually uninhabited with the exception of some small rural farming communities, of which Reedy Creek was one. The counties of Orange and Osceola did not have the resources to provide all the infrastructure and services that Walt Disney World would need. So Disney offered to provide all those services under the provision that they be the sole administrator over them since neither county that Walt Disney World sprawls into had the resources to do so. So the Florida Legislature came up with the Reedy Creek Improvement District which functions as a semi-independent municipality under the administration of the Walt Disney Corporation.
There are legal provisions in the law that specify the scope of this district, how this district is managed and how it may be dissolved; all of which Governor DeSantis and the Florida Legislature just violated with the bill they proposed and passed. Disney knows this, the Florida Legislature knows this, odds are this will be fought in court and won by Disney and thrown out as unconstitutional because the state just violated their own law. Plus, Reedy Creek is a municipality with Florida citizens residing in it and any change to their district would have to be approved by those voters, approval the State of Florida did not get or even ask for.
Additionally, the biggest benefit to Walt Disney Corp is that managing their own municipality allowed them to bypass red tape in typical county zoning and permitting. However, at this point Walt Disney basically owns both Orange and Osceola county and should they be forced to take over administration of Reedy Creek odds are they will create special provisions for Walt Disney Corp. However, both Orange and Osceola would have to absorb any debts the Reedy Creek Improvement District currently holds, which is about 2 billion dollars in bond debt which will have to be immediately reimbursed to the bond holds if the district is dissolved. That, along with the infrastructure costs to maintaining Reedy Creek which would also be passed along to the counties which amount to a tax assessment being levied against every resident in Orange county by about 4000 per year. If Osceola assumes the debt, it would be even higher because that county has a smaller population. The 2 counties will have to sort out who is responsible for what since Walt Disney World sprawls across both counties.
Disney would face a higher tax liability, however, the Florida Legislature passed a law several years ago that limits the amount that counties could raise their property taxes to no more than 10% per year. That would not be enough to cover Reedy Creek’s bond debt even with Disney included. Basically Florida would be taking over 2 billion in debt off Disney’s books and dropping it on to the Florida taxpayers in central Florida. Disney would also have the added benefit of no longer need to pay for the expense of maintaining the district (fire services, police, medical, sewage, roads, etc) which will also fall onto the Florida taxpayer. All of these savings Disney stands to gain more than offsets whatever small tax increase they would pay due to the cap.
While I agree with all the sentiments that Gov tRump Clone should not be doing any of this, I did visit Disneyland Paris with a school ‘science’ trip (I know, 4 hours in a week of lectures which were Disney promotional propaganda and 4 hours a day on the rides… I think my very young boss wanted a week close to Paris to relive the childhood she never had), and would have chewed my own leg off to get out.
The deal with Disney was very advantageous to Florida. They have made a lot of money because of it. Their standard of living improved with all the amenities that Disney provided. Now the legislature and governor has screwed the pooch. Hope the people of Florida notice and vote out all of the elected people involved, who have shot themselves in the foot. This fight is a losing battle for Florida that Disney can win.
Reedy Creek spans 25,000 acres in Orange and Osceola counties and includes Disney’s four theme parks, two water parks and sports complex. It also includes the two small cities of Bay Lake and Lake Buena Vista, which had a combined population of 53 people in 2020, all either representatives or employees of Disney.
To fund the government services of Reedy Creek, Disney effectively taxes itself. While the precise tax flows of Reedy Creek are unclear, Scott Randolph, the tax collector for Orange County, said the Reedy Creek district collects roughly $105 million annually in general revenue.
On top of the $105 million, Disney also pays local property taxes. Public records show Disney is the largest taxpayer in central Florida, paying over $280 million in property taxes to the counties between 2015 and 2020.
If the special district is dissolved, Orange and Osceola counties would have to provide the local services currently provided by Reedy Creek. And, the $105 million in revenue would disappear, meaning county and local taxpayers would be on the hook for part or all of the added costs.
“If you dissolved Reedy Creek, that $105 million in revenue literally goes away, it doesn’t get transferred,” Randolph said.
I’d say that a good time for Disney to publicly announce that they are considering moving would be October 21st. That way, there’ll be enough time for the news to get out, but not enough time for it to wear off before people vote on November 8th.
FL stands to lose more than Disney. The overhead on the park is enormous and their independent govt saves them a ton in taxes. Already the amount they charge keeps many away. If they have to start paying more to FL they may just cut their losses and leave. The ironic part is Disney contributed to the Republicans that are screwing them. But that is what Republicans DO! Look what the are doing to the COUNTRY!!
If Putin decided to invade Florida, he’d encounter NO resistance. De Brainless would welcome him with a bouquet of flowers that he thought he’d get from the Ukrainians.
“In every episode now, they’re going to have Mickey and Pluto going at it…You can always shift to Cinemax if you want that.”— Sen. Ted Cruz on Disney’s opposition to Florida “Don’t Say Gay” law
Hey folks, please quit feeding Squiggles, the points whoring troll.
Don’t respond directly to it. That’s just like helping it diddle itself.
It ain’t gonna stop being a fascist and a putz. Never gonna happen. It will not change. It’s too set in its BS propaganda and too dumb to grasp simple concepts. Just ignore it.
… he’ll be hated in central florida when the tax bill comes due because the local counties will have to foot the government billings that Disney took care of
Converting a democracy into an authoritarian pseudo-theocracy — that just represents just one exclusive faction, not all the people — entails removing people’s freedom/right to govern/think for themselves.
RAGs about 2 years ago
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
Squiggly-piggly loves dishonest, rabid politicians who hate the United States Constitution.
B 8671 about 2 years ago
This is all about revenge and nothing else! It doesn’t say a whole lot about the government and governor of the second rate state of Florida that they believe that revenge should take presidency over everything else! Then again, they are Republicans. It is, also, no surprise that the Republicans, their sycophants/apologists and the republican owned servants,especially the ones who post here (squggles, the lily-livered gutless wonder, the mongoose and the rest of their ilk) will support it. What Disney should do now, is leave the state and go somewhere where they are appreciated because,it is very clear,that governor de-goofball does not appreciate all the money that Disney brings to his state.
Ballast about 2 years ago
Only the nation’s worst Governor would attack their own state’s largest employer.
drbee about 2 years ago
DeSantis may well find that instead of pouncing on Mickey Mouse, he’s tackled Mighty Mouse…lol
wolfiiig about 2 years ago
Time to get nasty! Release Pluto!
Charliegirl Premium Member about 2 years ago
Insulting to felines!
Display about 2 years ago
Hey Satan-tis, good luck explaining why all those taxes are now getting passed onto the people in your state since Disney won’t be paying ’em now. You done screwed the pooch way more that the mouse, sucker!
Oooo lookee here, there’s a hefty price tag for your dumbass actions, ya loser.
And it’d really screw your butt into a hole in the ground if they just up and closed down, and moved outta state. Where ya gonna find jobs for those folks? Where are all those tourist dollars gonna be coming from if they leave. You need them a whole pantload more than they need you, fool.
Patjade about 2 years ago
Maybe another state nearby would love to step in and offer The Mouse a new home, so Florida can go back to being a 3rd world swampland where students go to party in the Spring and old people go to die.
knutdl about 2 years ago
Where is Pluto?
robertthomasson about 2 years ago
Doesn’t the mouse always win in cartoons?
Pharmakeus Ubik about 2 years ago
When Disney first looked at breaking ground in Central Florida for a new theme park in the 1960s, the area was virtually uninhabited with the exception of some small rural farming communities, of which Reedy Creek was one. The counties of Orange and Osceola did not have the resources to provide all the infrastructure and services that Walt Disney World would need. So Disney offered to provide all those services under the provision that they be the sole administrator over them since neither county that Walt Disney World sprawls into had the resources to do so. So the Florida Legislature came up with the Reedy Creek Improvement District which functions as a semi-independent municipality under the administration of the Walt Disney Corporation.
There are legal provisions in the law that specify the scope of this district, how this district is managed and how it may be dissolved; all of which Governor DeSantis and the Florida Legislature just violated with the bill they proposed and passed. Disney knows this, the Florida Legislature knows this, odds are this will be fought in court and won by Disney and thrown out as unconstitutional because the state just violated their own law. Plus, Reedy Creek is a municipality with Florida citizens residing in it and any change to their district would have to be approved by those voters, approval the State of Florida did not get or even ask for.
Pharmakeus Ubik about 2 years ago
Additionally, the biggest benefit to Walt Disney Corp is that managing their own municipality allowed them to bypass red tape in typical county zoning and permitting. However, at this point Walt Disney basically owns both Orange and Osceola county and should they be forced to take over administration of Reedy Creek odds are they will create special provisions for Walt Disney Corp. However, both Orange and Osceola would have to absorb any debts the Reedy Creek Improvement District currently holds, which is about 2 billion dollars in bond debt which will have to be immediately reimbursed to the bond holds if the district is dissolved. That, along with the infrastructure costs to maintaining Reedy Creek which would also be passed along to the counties which amount to a tax assessment being levied against every resident in Orange county by about 4000 per year. If Osceola assumes the debt, it would be even higher because that county has a smaller population. The 2 counties will have to sort out who is responsible for what since Walt Disney World sprawls across both counties.
Disney would face a higher tax liability, however, the Florida Legislature passed a law several years ago that limits the amount that counties could raise their property taxes to no more than 10% per year. That would not be enough to cover Reedy Creek’s bond debt even with Disney included. Basically Florida would be taking over 2 billion in debt off Disney’s books and dropping it on to the Florida taxpayers in central Florida. Disney would also have the added benefit of no longer need to pay for the expense of maintaining the district (fire services, police, medical, sewage, roads, etc) which will also fall onto the Florida taxpayer. All of these savings Disney stands to gain more than offsets whatever small tax increase they would pay due to the cap.
(summary courtesy of Cyber_Dan)
oldspacehound about 2 years ago
I read yesterday that when DeSantis takes away Disney’s tax breaks it will cost the residents of two counties over2K a year in taxes. That will sting
akachman Premium Member about 2 years ago
Why do cats always get portrayed as bad beings? Not cool nor accurate.
robertthomasson about 2 years ago
While I agree with all the sentiments that Gov tRump Clone should not be doing any of this, I did visit Disneyland Paris with a school ‘science’ trip (I know, 4 hours in a week of lectures which were Disney promotional propaganda and 4 hours a day on the rides… I think my very young boss wanted a week close to Paris to relive the childhood she never had), and would have chewed my own leg off to get out.
monya_43 about 2 years ago
The deal with Disney was very advantageous to Florida. They have made a lot of money because of it. Their standard of living improved with all the amenities that Disney provided. Now the legislature and governor has screwed the pooch. Hope the people of Florida notice and vote out all of the elected people involved, who have shot themselves in the foot. This fight is a losing battle for Florida that Disney can win.
GiantShetlandPony about 2 years ago
I feel an abuse of power lawsuit coming up.
Masterskrain Premium Member about 2 years ago
DeathSantis has bitten off more then he can chew. If nothing else, Disney is LOADED with Lawyers, and they KNOW how to fight!
Stephen Runnels Premium Member about 2 years ago
Actually, Bennett and the christian Taliban know Disney leaving Florida would ruin the state’s economy.
FrankErnesto about 2 years ago
Next week this could be a Russia/Ukraine cartoon, two for one.
Zebrastripes about 2 years ago
Nazi Desantis….using a revised page from rumps playbook….in the end it will come back to bite him in the ass!
studiotyler about 2 years ago
This cartoon is an insult to cats. DeSantis is far too odious to be a cat.
Masterskrain Premium Member about 2 years ago
Reedy Creek spans 25,000 acres in Orange and Osceola counties and includes Disney’s four theme parks, two water parks and sports complex. It also includes the two small cities of Bay Lake and Lake Buena Vista, which had a combined population of 53 people in 2020, all either representatives or employees of Disney.
To fund the government services of Reedy Creek, Disney effectively taxes itself. While the precise tax flows of Reedy Creek are unclear, Scott Randolph, the tax collector for Orange County, said the Reedy Creek district collects roughly $105 million annually in general revenue.
On top of the $105 million, Disney also pays local property taxes. Public records show Disney is the largest taxpayer in central Florida, paying over $280 million in property taxes to the counties between 2015 and 2020.
If the special district is dissolved, Orange and Osceola counties would have to provide the local services currently provided by Reedy Creek. And, the $105 million in revenue would disappear, meaning county and local taxpayers would be on the hook for part or all of the added costs.
“If you dissolved Reedy Creek, that $105 million in revenue literally goes away, it doesn’t get transferred,” Randolph said.
Vidrinath Premium Member about 2 years ago
I don’t love Disney but I’m not counting them out yet. They have the money to fight in courts for a LONG time.
John Leonard Premium Member about 2 years ago
I’d say that a good time for Disney to publicly announce that they are considering moving would be October 21st. That way, there’ll be enough time for the news to get out, but not enough time for it to wear off before people vote on November 8th.
William Bednar Premium Member about 2 years ago
Those who “love” Trump, should, and do, absolutely adore Musk!
NeedaChuckle Premium Member about 2 years ago
FL stands to lose more than Disney. The overhead on the park is enormous and their independent govt saves them a ton in taxes. Already the amount they charge keeps many away. If they have to start paying more to FL they may just cut their losses and leave. The ironic part is Disney contributed to the Republicans that are screwing them. But that is what Republicans DO! Look what the are doing to the COUNTRY!!
Ontman about 2 years ago
What DeSantis is doing to Disney sucks but let’s not lose track of what he’s do to the education system in Florida.
Màiri about 2 years ago
Fachrissake, Bennett, give cats a break wudja!?!
thelordthygod666 about 2 years ago
And DeSantis approval ratings by Floridians are up 10 points since he began acting mickey mouse [CNN]
BB71 about 2 years ago
California is trying to inflict California politics on Florida. Desantis is a hero. He has the guts to do the right thing.
Frankfreak about 2 years ago
Mickey has announced DeSantis is into bestiality as he is Fukn Goofy.
Frankfreak about 2 years ago
Been nice posting here (:^}
mourdac Premium Member about 2 years ago
I thought the Alt-Reich was big on “free” speech. I guess as long as one is lock-stepping to their philosphies, they are.
Ally2005 about 2 years ago
If Putin decided to invade Florida, he’d encounter NO resistance. De Brainless would welcome him with a bouquet of flowers that he thought he’d get from the Ukrainians.
Radish the wordsmith about 2 years ago
Goofy kills Mickey.
willie_mctell about 2 years ago
Do not underestimate the Mouse. Many have made that mistake.
ChattyFran about 2 years ago
I think a 50-foot mouse in the jaws of the cat would be more appropriate, Clay.
Duka about 2 years ago
“In every episode now, they’re going to have Mickey and Pluto going at it…You can always shift to Cinemax if you want that.”— Sen. Ted Cruz on Disney’s opposition to Florida “Don’t Say Gay” law
Radish the wordsmith about 2 years ago
“Business” GQP screws up again – the Disney punishment transfers Disney debt to cities
Radish the wordsmith about 2 years ago
Did The Fascists Just Use The Mouse to Take The House?
Display about 2 years ago
Hey folks, please quit feeding Squiggles, the points whoring troll.
Don’t respond directly to it. That’s just like helping it diddle itself.
It ain’t gonna stop being a fascist and a putz. Never gonna happen. It will not change. It’s too set in its BS propaganda and too dumb to grasp simple concepts. Just ignore it.
gmu328 about 2 years ago
… he’ll be hated in central florida when the tax bill comes due because the local counties will have to foot the government billings that Disney took care of
superposition about 2 years ago
Converting a democracy into an authoritarian pseudo-theocracy — that just represents just one exclusive faction, not all the people — entails removing people’s freedom/right to govern/think for themselves.
Rich Douglas about 2 years ago
Oh, for now. But I would guess that the folks at Disney are far smarter that DeSantis and will prevail.
Tonksquawk about 2 years ago
Portraying DeSantis as a cat is a disservice to cats.
MC4802 Premium Member about 2 years ago
More like a rabid dog
GiantShetlandPony about 2 years ago
Disney is the main reason Florida doesn’t have a state income tax. I wonder if Floridians have somehow forgotten that?