Trump is counting on the virus, among other RepubliCON efforts to suppress the voter turnout in November. He’s so concerned about mail-in voter fraud. Really? More likely is that he’s scared to death of increased mail-in ballot efforts because It allows way too many people an easier way to participate and he doesn’t like that one bit. He realizes a large voter turnout is big trouble for his re-election. This is the same guy that claims that in person voting is also rampant with fraud. I guess he’s against increased voting efforts in any form. It makes it really tuff to control the outcome.
Vote by mail is the best way to END voter fraud,, as every state using it has proven, repeatedly. Paper trail, signature match, and other elements. Diebold proved its the machines that the threat..
Paul Weyrich is widely regarded as the “founding father of the conservative movement”. He founded ALEC and co-founded the Heritage Foundation, Moral Majority, Council for National Policy, and Free Congress Foundation, among others.
Speaking in 1980 at a right-wing conference in Dallas, Weyrich set out the case for voter suppression: “I don’t want everybody to vote. Elections are not won by a majority of people…. As a matter of fact our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down.”
The right wing and GOP are still acting on his advice to this day. Why? Because it works!
How frustrating, just as SCOTUS opened the door to gerrymandering the presidential elections the pandemic raises the proposal to use the US mail which nullifies the gerrymandering …
For the President it’s a “twofer”…. getting rid of the USPS would show that he is greater than Benjamin Franklin and also that he can stick it to Jeff Bezos, his mortal enemy…
Allowing vote by mail would encourage many more people to vote. And, Republicans admit that they can’t win if people actually vote. Republicans HAVE to lie and cheat in any way they can. When people are given a choice of two statements on issues that actually affect their everyday life, one that describes the Republican position and the other the Democrat’s, the Democratic position is chosen by about 80% of Democrats and Independents. No surprise there. The weird part is that just under half of Republicans also choose Democrat positions, unless they are told which position is supported by each party. Then they fall into line and choose the Republican option- 78% of the time. So, it is entirely reasonable for Republicans to lie a lot. The people running the Republican party are in that half of the Republicans who actually believe in Republican positions. They are roughly 25% of the voting public. They have no chance of ever winning a national election unless they keep as many people as possible from voting and keep the rest of them confused enough to vote against their own best interests.
Totally partisan Republicans have shown themselves to be only for their party and not for the USA at all. The have made themselves into the party of greed, theft, lies and murderous incompetence. They have completely ignored the experts that could have reduced the effect of the virus in this country.
We have one third of the world’s deaths from the virus, worse than many 3rd world countries due to the lack of a Federal Testing Program.
Instead Mr Trump encouraged his armed minions to spread the virus hither and yon.
Republicans want to destroy the Post Office so you cannot vote against them by mail.
Enough Dems in the House and Senate won’t allow Post Office operations to be impeded. States decide whether to allow voting by mail, not the Feds. Tiny may want the power to ban this, just as he thinks he can order states to allow houses of worship to open but he doesn’t.
Deployed military personnel use vote-by-mail, but under Trump they don’t need to “bother” because he counts their votes for himself as the Commander-in-Chief…
I have voted by mail for decades it works well. My vote is still counted by-election poll volunteers. The system works well here in California where we believe all real live breathing citizens regardless of age race culture gender party or financial status be allowed to vote
Strange that some many people swear that voting by mail is subject to massive fraud, except the people in States that already use it and haven’t had any problems.
Did you see what didmac2 just waved before your eyes? His magic wand? His fortune teller’s seeing eye goldfish bowl upside-down? No proof of conspiracy required. Just say the creep who NEEDS to steal the election can’t be guilty of it. The thug with an army at his control won’t use simpler means to keep his crown. The dullards who believe that sort of conspiracy time after time. That’s all he really wants is enough of a base to show up to give credence to a ballot challenge – before fascist-minded rightwing judges he appointed.
What I can never understand is why democrats haven’t fought highly effective voter suppression tactics by republicans as forcefully as republicans have screamed about statistically non-existent voter fraud. This next election may well signal the end of our democratic experiment.
Ally2005 almost 4 years ago
Trump is counting on the virus, among other RepubliCON efforts to suppress the voter turnout in November. He’s so concerned about mail-in voter fraud. Really? More likely is that he’s scared to death of increased mail-in ballot efforts because It allows way too many people an easier way to participate and he doesn’t like that one bit. He realizes a large voter turnout is big trouble for his re-election. This is the same guy that claims that in person voting is also rampant with fraud. I guess he’s against increased voting efforts in any form. It makes it really tuff to control the outcome.
Dtroutma almost 4 years ago
Vote by mail is the best way to END voter fraud,, as every state using it has proven, repeatedly. Paper trail, signature match, and other elements. Diebold proved its the machines that the threat..
Richard S Russell Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Paul Weyrich is widely regarded as the “founding father of the conservative movement”. He founded ALEC and co-founded the Heritage Foundation, Moral Majority, Council for National Policy, and Free Congress Foundation, among others.
Speaking in 1980 at a right-wing conference in Dallas, Weyrich set out the case for voter suppression: “I don’t want everybody to vote. Elections are not won by a majority of people…. As a matter of fact our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down.”
The right wing and GOP are still acting on his advice to this day. Why? Because it works!
wyneaux almost 4 years ago
Giving the Grinch a bad name….
superposition almost 4 years ago
How frustrating, just as SCOTUS opened the door to gerrymandering the presidential elections the pandemic raises the proposal to use the US mail which nullifies the gerrymandering …
https://electoralvotemap.com/gerrymander-presidential-elections/
dorotheac928 almost 4 years ago
So, he’s against voting by mail for us but does it himself. Can anyone imagine him standing in line at the polls?
PraiseofFolly almost 4 years ago
“Frankly Franklin”
Donald Trump had just laid down for a nap,
To cop a few “zees” before a Twitter Storm rap,
When he saw a strange form at the foot of his bed —
It was Benjamin Franklin just arose from the dead!
.
Trump first thought his Hydroxychloroquine
Had been badly dosed, causing his vision to spin.
But then he remembered that face, the one on the bill,
The C-note that never ceased to give him a thrill!
.
“How’d you get in, and what do you want?
To try to convince me of something or merely to haunt?
I’ve seen Dickens’s story and thought it fell flat:
‘A rich man repent and reform’ — I’d not likely do that!”
.
“Of the many wrong paths you’ve chosen,” Franklin said,
“Bad intent toward Postal service brings me back from the dead.
A great achievement in my life you intend to abase
Just to ensure fewer votes against you in the upcoming race!”
.
Trump was now fully awake and felt in command.
He commanded that Franklin go away, to disband
To wherever spirits go when they depart this dimension.
To disrupt postal service was still his intention.
.
Franklin would say, One’s net worth is what’s left
After bad habits are from the good ones bereft.
By this method, though MAGAs will ever think him a hero,
Trump’s worth at life’s end would be far less than zero.
Blaidd Drwg Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Except the Grinch at least had a tiny heart. trumphole is just two holes stuck together.
feverjr Premium Member almost 4 years ago
For the President it’s a “twofer”…. getting rid of the USPS would show that he is greater than Benjamin Franklin and also that he can stick it to Jeff Bezos, his mortal enemy…
Diane Lee Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Allowing vote by mail would encourage many more people to vote. And, Republicans admit that they can’t win if people actually vote. Republicans HAVE to lie and cheat in any way they can. When people are given a choice of two statements on issues that actually affect their everyday life, one that describes the Republican position and the other the Democrat’s, the Democratic position is chosen by about 80% of Democrats and Independents. No surprise there. The weird part is that just under half of Republicans also choose Democrat positions, unless they are told which position is supported by each party. Then they fall into line and choose the Republican option- 78% of the time. So, it is entirely reasonable for Republicans to lie a lot. The people running the Republican party are in that half of the Republicans who actually believe in Republican positions. They are roughly 25% of the voting public. They have no chance of ever winning a national election unless they keep as many people as possible from voting and keep the rest of them confused enough to vote against their own best interests.
Radish the wordsmith almost 4 years ago
Totally partisan Republicans have shown themselves to be only for their party and not for the USA at all. The have made themselves into the party of greed, theft, lies and murderous incompetence. They have completely ignored the experts that could have reduced the effect of the virus in this country.
We have one third of the world’s deaths from the virus, worse than many 3rd world countries due to the lack of a Federal Testing Program.
Instead Mr Trump encouraged his armed minions to spread the virus hither and yon.
Republicans want to destroy the Post Office so you cannot vote against them by mail.
The Love of Money is . . . almost 4 years ago
Who do you think you’re kidding Toles. Everyone knows Donnie can’t drive.
mourdac Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Enough Dems in the House and Senate won’t allow Post Office operations to be impeded. States decide whether to allow voting by mail, not the Feds. Tiny may want the power to ban this, just as he thinks he can order states to allow houses of worship to open but he doesn’t.
Michael G. almost 4 years ago
WE CANNOT ALLOW THIS TOTALITARIAN REGIME TO SUCCEED IN GUTTING THE ELECTORAL PROCESS!
Old_Curmudgeon almost 4 years ago
Curbing the Vote – {4 beats/line}
Again he’s gone postal {and quite off the rails}, -
- this time that voters must not use the mails
to force The Donald to furl his sails
because at presiding The Donald fails.
… Coda:
[{ Rights in voting his party curtails
in many a way as it falters and flails. }]
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Masterskrain Premium Member almost 4 years ago
ENOUGH SAID!!
ferddo almost 4 years ago
Deployed military personnel use vote-by-mail, but under Trump they don’t need to “bother” because he counts their votes for himself as the Commander-in-Chief…
Godfreydaniel almost 4 years ago
It’s the 30th anniversary of “Oh, The Places You’ll Go!” and I can think of a few places Li’l Donnie can go……..
shamest Premium Member almost 4 years ago
I have voted by mail for decades it works well. My vote is still counted by-election poll volunteers. The system works well here in California where we believe all real live breathing citizens regardless of age race culture gender party or financial status be allowed to vote
jaws2049 almost 4 years ago
I think vote by mail gets more voters voting and that is bad for Trump!
Alberta Oil Premium Member almost 4 years ago
The Grinch (aka AG Barr) has many more tricks in his arsenal to ensure the election comes out right.
david_42 almost 4 years ago
Strange that some many people swear that voting by mail is subject to massive fraud, except the people in States that already use it and haven’t had any problems.
Radish the wordsmith almost 4 years ago
My vote will be in the mail before the election can be cancelled.
mitchkeos Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Pretty well sums it up. Trump is the most massively fraudulent president we’ve ever had.
eideard almost 4 years ago
Did you see what didmac2 just waved before your eyes? His magic wand? His fortune teller’s seeing eye goldfish bowl upside-down? No proof of conspiracy required. Just say the creep who NEEDS to steal the election can’t be guilty of it. The thug with an army at his control won’t use simpler means to keep his crown. The dullards who believe that sort of conspiracy time after time. That’s all he really wants is enough of a base to show up to give credence to a ballot challenge – before fascist-minded rightwing judges he appointed.
wildthing almost 4 years ago
What I can never understand is why democrats haven’t fought highly effective voter suppression tactics by republicans as forcefully as republicans have screamed about statistically non-existent voter fraud. This next election may well signal the end of our democratic experiment.