Henry Payne for July 21, 2018

Trump, get paid by Putin to subvert the United States of America.

Why not guarantee people a basic stipend to live on?

America is the richest country in the world and the 1% are taking everything.

Services for humans get cut to pay off the trillions the Republicans borrowed for their rich friends.

Welfare capitalism for the rich only works until you can’t borrow anymore money.

Hatred Of Obama in its full flower.

Good, Henry.

Mr. Payne, do you have anything to say about your comrade in charge? Or are you just going to pick on the ‘lower class’ people?

Payne, do you have a problem living in a country where everyone is guaranteed a basic, livable income ? There is no correlation between wealth and hard work. There are ultra rich people who have not worked a day in their lives, and there are poor people who have to work 2 shifts a day just to make ends meet.

Shit. Edison STOLE most of his ideas from other people. He only has two inventions that are truly his idea: stock ticker and phonograph.

Getting paid to draw cartoons?

Huh? Obama is still President? Hallelujah! Oh, he isn’t, so I don’t understand how Payne is missing all the traitorous stuff going on in the Republican party. Guess he doesn’t care.

Question: How do you keep a consumer-driven economy going if corporations are replacing wage-earners with robots, automation, and AI?

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While many Americans are divided on UBI as an answer to the potential economic harms of automation, they are more in step with who would have to pay for UBI measures if enacted.

Forty-six percent of those polled said they would be willing to pay higher taxes to fund UBI.

Those polled, however, expressed overwhelming support for companies paying this type of “robot tax,” with 80 percent saying that companies benefitting most from the AI should help cover the cost of a hypothetical UBI.

UBI, which only several years ago was floated as a fringe idea, has gained increased support as the potential for job displacement becomes more real with the proliferation of AI.

Technology CEOs like Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg and Salesforce’s Marc Benioff have argued that a UBI could be useful.

Bill Gates has specifically argued for a “robot tax” on companies who replace human workers with AI.

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http://thehill.com/policy/technology/375587-gallup-poll-americans-split-on-giving-a-universal-basic-income-to-workers

https://news.gallup.com/poll/228194/public-split-basic-income-workers-replaced-robots.aspx

Maybe you should look up the Family Assistance Program which President Richard Nixon proposed, back in the 1970s. It was the very thing you abhor.

Let’s Just Say, (tm from another list) that when Nixon looks like a good guy….

fusilier

James 2:24

Gee Mr. Payne, the immigrant children have still not been returned to their parents, the current president has sold out his country; the republican congress wishes to take away people’s social security and all you wish to do is deflect from all of that by mentioning a president without any power. So how do you look at yourself in the mirror in the morning?

Trump reminds me of the family circus kids. Not me. Not me. Not me.

I’m actually in favor of basic income- and here’s my rationale- When Americans have more money, it’s spendable income, which boosts the economy to sustain basic income. The labor supply contracts some, but that’s OK, because employees are willing to put up with lower wages. In any case, automation begins to increase production. Eventually, what you have is a economy that’s booming- fast. If government then takes measures to make the boom last, eventually, with the decrease of a human labor force and a rise in machine labor, you have solved the problem that workers are consumers- and so firms no longer have an inherent conflict, either.

No one ever address’s the fact that more people want to work than there are jobs.

Maybe a notorious idea thief like Thomas Edison isn’t the best counterexample…

I seem to remember that the Nixon administration took a serious look at something like this, but concluded that it would be too expensive. Of course, it was a smaller economy then; on the other hand, the Republicans in control of federal government are running up a monstrous national debt.

Automation was supposed to relieve people of the necessity of manual labor. It has but the gains in productivity have not been shared equally with the people who once did the labor. Instead it’s being hoarded and traded back and forth between a small group of people. Meanwhile a larger and larger portion of the population slips into poverty.

The UBI should not be financed by taxes on individuals but by eliminating subsidies given to large corporations and taxing them on their gross profits not net profits so they can’t use expense and investment loopholes to eliminate their tax liability.

In 1975 the EIC was signed into law by Gerold Ford. That is a form of basic income and has proved to be " one of the largest anti-poverty tools in the United States." wikipedia.

How I miss Obama by Max Boot July 20 (foreign policy adviser to both the McCain and Romney campaigns and he’s being quite serious) https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/07/20/how-i-miss-obama/

That’s what the capitalist bosses want… for you to work hard so they can be driven in a limo.

More ‘irrelevancy’ from Payne!

Yeah, let’s feed the people like cattle. It worked for ancient Rome.

Trump giving the USA to Russia, billionaires robbing the poor and asylum seekers who have sought asylum in the proscribed legal manner separated from their families and put in cages and all you can come up with is a speech from a former president? You, and all the other trumpfluffers, need to pull your heads out and look around.

Things are more out of whack now than they were in the Guilded Age.

The Gilded Age is defined as the time between the Civil War and World War I during which the U.S. population and economy grew quickly, there was a lot of political corruption and corporate financial misdealings and many wealthy people lived very fancy lives.

Sorry Payne, President Obama has done more in one day for his country than you have in your entire life. Unlike you, he has earned the honor and respect of the world for his accomplishments. You just draw cartoons.

Payne you really are delusional. This would be a $500.00 a month stipend so low income families wouldn’t starve. $6000.00 a year. This is being proposed by Obama, it is in Chicago by one of there alderman. You are showing your true colors as hatred for anything Obama. Are you working for Trump??