Steve Kelley for January 17, 2019

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    Darsan54 Premium Member over 5 years ago

    What is Kelly, our newest, most prominent incel? Steven Miller has been replaced?

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    DD Wiz Premium Member over 5 years ago

    How insecure does someone have to be to feel threatened by calls for calling on the better angels of our nature and encouraging us to be the best versions of ourselves as we can be, in the truest sense of the word.

    Men of QUALITY are not threatened by women of EQUALITY.

    Clearly Steve Kelley and others who feel threatened or offended by looking for the best in all of us are not men of quality.

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    RAGs  over 5 years ago

    Kelley is one of those little boys who never learned that it takes strength to be gentle.

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    shakeswilly  over 5 years ago

    Lack of masculinity causes Steve Kelly to be offended by a well meaning cartoon.

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    Ontman  over 5 years ago

    Many men need a reality kick in the pants. The truth hurts right guys?

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    Zev   over 5 years ago

    Obviously Kelley is one of those manly men. We already know how he feels about women from his recent cartoons.

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    Nantucket Premium Member over 5 years ago

    “jokes” about the casting couch. Male bosses making lewd comments to female workers – yet another “joke”. Catcalls from construction workers. “Boys will be boys” excuses.

    Kelley, why are you PROUD of toxic masculinity?

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    kilioopu  over 5 years ago

    Any data on how the commercial is changing buying behavior? I doubt that any affect will be negative, since from a marketing point of view, Gillette is trying to nudge their brand name up in people’s minds… Indeed, I’m not sure what percentage of men purchase their own razors as compared to having their spouse? I’m sure Gillette thought all this out. In any case, I doubt anyone who objects to this ad would pay any attention to me, but for others – Scene on Radio’s 12-episode series on men is well worth the time. If it doesn’t make you squirm – male or female – then you’re not paying attention.

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    Kilrwat Premium Member over 5 years ago

    Pundits to Nike (re Kapernick): You’re dead! Market to Nike: Record Profits! Likely that history repeats in this instance.

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    juneybug  over 5 years ago

    Never ceases to amaze me when companies go political and start a war among their clientele. Do they ever win?

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    JHayes  over 5 years ago

    So with all that is going on in the world Kelly decided the most important topic demanding scrutiny is…. a Razor blade add.

    Steve. I have seen a great deal of evidence that the President is a tool of a Foreign power that is targeting us with nuclear weapons. But a Razor blade add takes precedence.

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    superposition  over 5 years ago

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-mysteries-love/201502/12-ways-spot-misogynist

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    DrDon1  over 5 years ago

    Kelley — “Stuck in the 1950s!”

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    warjoski Premium Member over 5 years ago

    Remember the good old days when you could go to the grocery store without worrying about your political party affiliation? Yeah. Me neither.

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    dogday Premium Member over 5 years ago

    This is such a craven ploy on the part of P&G, such a prostitution to political correctness and a nasty slur on the millions and millions of decent men of all ages as opposed to the high profile predators as well as the closet abusers who are in the minority. Men should be decent, courteous and honest, as should EVERYONE, and we don’t need a for-mega-profits-mega-corporation lecturing on social morality, thank you.

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    guyjen2004 Premium Member over 5 years ago

    Does anyone actually believe Gillette is trying to change the world? It’s a nice message but step back and consider the source and the vehicle. It’s an ad from a company who is looking for greater brand awareness (or to maintain it) and increase sales. By the way, they are a “pink tax” company – A company that charges women more for products that are essentially the same as the men’s products they sell.

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    cageywayne  over 5 years ago

    This is what we are worried about, today?

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    patriots_aren't_partisan  over 5 years ago

    I don’t see many commercials, so I searched this one so I could see what this cartoon refers to. Seems like the message is, “If you see another man being a prick to a woman or someone being bullied, be a real man and do something about it.” I get it: It’s a play on their old slogan, “The Best a Man Can Get.” What’s the problem? I figure that Mrs. Trump should love it, since it goes right along with her “Be Best” campaign. If any men are personally offended by the ad, then they may well be the ones that need to be stopped from committing the bad behaviors the ad refers to. Or they just need to get over themselves and grow a pair. If you don’t like the ad, change the channel, don’t buy the product, and sell your shares of P&G, but don’t whine to the whole world about it.

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    Havel  over 5 years ago

    So, if I understand correctly ONE ad upsets some men by calling attention to what has appeared in HUNDREDS of ads which upset most women. Got it.

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    Aliquid  over 5 years ago

    I don’t think the commercial was addressing Toxic Males… it was addressing the men that aren’t toxic, and asking them to stop turning a blind eye to their toxic friends/family, etc, and to be a good role model to the next generation.

    The men that express “inherent toxic masculinity” are beyond hope as far as I’m concerned… who cares what product they buy, they are relics of the past that need to die off.

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    Ignatz Premium Member over 5 years ago

    There was nothing in that commercial even slightly offensive to any man who doesn’t harass women.

    And they are capitalists, you know. Their marketing, research, and testing told them this was a good idea for their brand.

    Which means their marketing, research, and testing is telling them that there has been a huge change in public attitudes.

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    guyjen2004 Premium Member over 5 years ago

    Seems to me most people are making a value judgement on the Gillette video based on their political leanings. Not surprising. Looking at the ad from a sales and marketing perspective makes me think this is not going to accomplish what Gillette hoped it would, which is to regain market share that they’ve been losing to the competition for some time now. Over the last 10 years they’ve lost 16% of the razor market. They lowered prices as sales slowed but it hasn’t stemmed the tide. This campaign is a desperate attempt to pick up sales from a specific demographic where they’ve been getting their ass kicked – younger males. It’s risky because of the perceived political undertones that may (or may not) attract millennial guys will also alienate older, right-leaning guys who buy their products. The ad will not help them regain market share. Gillette needs to get slimmer, lower their prices (again) and put much more emphasis on their lower price point products and stop listening to whoever convinced them that this ad would help their bottom line.

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    john.maldaner  over 5 years ago

    Now that’s a funny cartoon!

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