Non Sequitur by Wiley Miller for November 11, 2017

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    Varnes  over 6 years ago

    I like Kate. She kind of a fire cracker in her own right….Anyway, Flash, the original Deciples were mostly women at first. Women ruled the home and that’s where the early Christians met. The Council of Nicea and the emperer of Rome changed them all to men…

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    Varnes  over 6 years ago

    The council of Nicea met in the year 315.

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    Night-Gaunt49[Bozo is Boffo]  over 6 years ago

    I would recommend “The Many-Headed Hydra:Sailors, Slaves, Commoners and the Hidden History of the Revolutionary Atlantic” by Peter Linebaugh & Marcus Rediker.

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    jmarkoff2  over 6 years ago

    Google a woman named Alley Valkyrie.

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    Varnes  over 6 years ago

    JMAEKOFF, thanks. Interesting lady…..

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    zenguyuno  over 6 years ago

    Only for rich white men actually.

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    WaitingMan  over 6 years ago

    Why do you think today’s Republicans worship the Founding Fathers so much?

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    John M  over 6 years ago

    You can probably blame the French – as Anglo-Saxons were much more enlightened about treating women equally (not totally equal but getting there) until the Normans invaded England and made things worse

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    starcandles Premium Member over 6 years ago

    Oh, for Pete’s sake. Is she going to freak when she discovers that generations ago the slaves’ own people sold them to the European slave traders? It is frigging history. In the past. Get a life. It was the cultural more of the time. It is history. You cannot change it. It happened generations ago. It does not happen today. Jeez.

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    LizandMax  over 6 years ago

    Slavery doesn’t happen today? You’re mistaken. Perhaps not in the form it did in the American South before the Civil War, but slavery does exist in the world today.

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    GeorgeJohnson  over 6 years ago

    Leftist are such simpletons, even something pretty clearly written has to be twisted and distorted and turned init a “living document” to push their proven crummy (many times) agenda.

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    ladykat  over 6 years ago

    In honour of all the Veterans:

    In Flanders Fields the poppies blow,

    Between the crosses, row on row

    That mark our place and in the sky

    The larks, still bravely singing, fly,

    Scarce heard amid the guns below.

    We are the dead. Short days ago

    We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow

    Loved and were loved, and now we lie in Flanders Fields.

    Take up our quarrel with the foe;

    To you from failing hands we throw

    The torch: be yours to hold it high.

    If ye break faith with us who die

    We shall not sleep

    Though poppies grow in Flanders Fields.

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    patiodragon  over 6 years ago

    This is easy. Up to that point in history, kings and queens told people that their rights came from them. The documents founding the USA established people have rights because they exist, given to them by their creator, and which cannot be taken away by other people. Hope this helps.

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    sandpiper  over 6 years ago

    Part of this country’s strength is build on many well known writings:

    John McCrae’s poem In Flanders Fields, as quoted above by Ladykat

    starfighter441’s quote in another strip from Laurence Binyon’s poem For the Fallen,

    Kipling’s Lest we forget from his Recessional,

    Churchill’s often mis-quoted speech at Harrow in 1941: Never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never—in nothing, great or small, large or petty—never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense."

    They echo down the generations because almost no generation has escaped the need for them.

    Submitted with thanks to Google and Wikipedia

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    Radish the wordsmith  over 6 years ago

    And you had to be a property owner to vote, and we liked it that way!

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    tripwire45  over 6 years ago

    Someone should teach Danae about history and how our nation as changed since 1776. Obviously rights have been expanded considerably since that time. Unfortunately, the young people these days think you have to delete history in order not to be offended by it because, after all, being offended is the absolute worst thing that can happen to them. I truly hope they grow up some day.

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    Squoop  over 6 years ago

    Gah!!!… is right! Thank you Danae, I’ve been asking the same thing for 60 years.

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    DanFlak  over 6 years ago

    Washington was a slave owner and a traitor to the crown. Lee was a slave owner and a traitor to the Union. The main difference is one won and the other lost and that makes all the difference.

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    William Bednar Premium Member over 6 years ago

    Seems to me that these ideas have been beat to death for far too long. If we were living in an Asian society, the “founding fathers” of that society would all be Asian. Or, if we lived in Africa, most likely the founding fathers of a particular state would all be African. The point is, let’s all just get along. OK?

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    Diane Lee Premium Member over 6 years ago

    The constitution is out of date. It accepts slavery, it allows for gerrymandering, it set up the electoral college, it allows no restrictions on guns because Jefferson never met an AK-47. My fondest wish is that I could go back in history and sit down with Madison and Jefferson and tell them the results of some of the mistakes in the constitution. Of course, I would either be ignored because I’m a woman or burned as a witch, which is another example of just how far we’ve come since the time the constitution was written, and why it either needs fixing or needs to be acknowledged as out of date. And, if I have you with me so far, I’m going to go even further out on a limb and mention that there is another document that people are trying to make relevant to modern times that was written a couple thousand years ago.

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    CeeJay  over 6 years ago

    Our constitution can be amended.

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    opsono  over 6 years ago

    “Human Resources” I’ll say no more.

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    Richard S Russell Premium Member over 6 years ago

    What does “gay” mean? In the Gay ’90s of the 19th Century, it meant frivolous and light-hearted. In the Gay ’90s of the 20th Century, it referred to human rights for people whose sexual preference differed from the majority.

    What does “virgin” mean? In some ancient dialects, simply “girl”; in others, “woman (of any age) who has never had sex”.

    What does “light” mean? In the dictionary it has over a hundred definitions, under 5 different parts of speech (noun, transitive verb, intransitive verb, adjective, and adverb).

    What does “man” mean? Different things to different people at different times under different circumstances.

    The idea that a word can ever and always have only one true meaning may make for an interesting comic strip, but it’s terrible linguistics and worse history.

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    Elisabunny  over 6 years ago

    It was ILLEGAL in Virginia for slaveowners to free their slaves, except in their wills. Washington freed his slaves upon his death, the soonest he was able to. Jefferson originally planned to do the same, but then decided to change the law. He succeeded, but at the cost of mortgaging everything. By the time he could legally free his slaves, technically he wasn’t their actual owner anymore.

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    midnight_beowulf  over 6 years ago

    “Half” is being extremely generous. To say “Most” of the Founding Fathers were slave-owners would probably be more accurate. I’d have to double-check, but off the top of my head, there’s only ONE in the whole bunch that I know for a fact never used slave labour during his lifetime.

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    todyoung  over 6 years ago

    Wow, Wiley, it looks like you’ve set a record for comments 137 right at this moment – and increasing every second! Proves that “you’re the BEST!”

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    LeePIII Premium Member over 6 years ago

    The FIRST slaveholder in America was BLACK. Moreover, there was a highwr percentage of blacks held by black slaveholders, than white slaveholders. WHO ended slavery? WHITE PEOPLE.

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    Night-Gaunt49[Bozo is Boffo]  over 6 years ago

    When you use “Gay” capitalized it means men who like to be around men over women. And there is its same meaning used “gay” that way. For joyous happiness. But one doesn’t have to supplant the other does it?

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    Mostly Water Premium Member over 6 years ago

    Je salue tous ceux morts pour la liberté.

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    Slatsmagee  over 6 years ago

    It was right then, it’s right today…

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