“The bipartisan border deal would not allow 5,000 illegal crossings per day, despite what Trump says… What’s become a popular talking point among conservative Republicans opposed to an emerging immigration bill is incorrect. Here’s what it would do.
So where did this 5,000-a-day figure come from?
The bipartisan deal does include provisions that would shut down the border entirely if a certain threshold is hit, but those are border encounters, not crossings. As noted above, no migrants trying to enter the U.S. illegally would be allowed into the country unless they passed asylum interviews or were being held under government supervision.
Under the new immigration bill, the Department of Homeland Security could close the border if too many migrants were showing up with asylum claims. After negotiators conferred with the Border Patrol and officials at the Department of Homeland Security, they crafted the legislation to give DHS the authority to close the border if they reached a seven-day average of 4,000 or more border encounters. A seven-day average of 5,000 or more would mandate a border closure. If the number exceeded 8,500 in a single day, there would also be a mandatory border closure.
What happens if the border is closed?
If the border were shut down, at least 1,400 migrants per day who tried to enter at official ports of entry would still qualify to have their asylum claims considered. The rest would be turned away."
It also allows the Prez to declare an emergency and ignore the 5000 limit. A limit that applies only to border space between ports of entry. The ports of entry will still be required to let illegal immigrants in. And yes, they are illegal if they falsely declare asylum status – a felony. Just ask Nadler. He called them illegal immigrants because that’s what they are.
Biden ignores the law today. Why would he care about this one. The Dems are pushing this so they can use it against Trump in 2025.
Quite the day of under-achievement and utter ineptitude from the MAGA cultists.
Dumped the immigration package with aid to Ukraine and Israel in the Senate.
Proposed a stand-alone package for the Ukraine and Israel aid in the Senate as a substitute — the very thing they griped about all the way back in October.
Failed miserably to pass their miserable impeachment of Mayorkas (this is a good thing, but demonstrates they do not have a governing caucus, or a whip, or anyone capable of simple math.
Failed to pass their substitute stand-alone bill for Israel aid in the House — which needed two-thirds to ensure passage. They were not even close, more head-counting fail.
Keep up the good work maga morons, looking forward to the “red wave” in November, it’s gonna be a bloodbath and they deserve it.
I dunno, I heard somewhere that the Border Patrol’s association has said it should be passed. But the noise machine is already distorting what’s in it and they were attacking it before they even saw what was in it.
5000 encounters but only counting those from Mexico and Canada. Does not count any from other countries. In other words, they’ll never get to 5000 as the vast majority are from other countries.
The reality is that the crossings would stop immediately if Biden would reinstitute Remain in Mexico and Stop Catch and Release. It is really very simple.
After the ‘threshold is hit, it’s the presidents option. And you think Biden will do something? A lot of words so that nothing changes. Typical politician speech coming from both sides.
The republican rejection of this bill shows that they are not serious about border control. The Border Patrol union, whose officials have actually read the bill want it passed. They know first hand what is needed.
The Republicans got the bill they asked for. The fact that they are rejecting it shows that they are not serious about securing the border. They love going down there for photo ops and wringing their hands—they don’t want to give that up. The Border Patrol Union has approved this bill and asked that it be passed. They know first hand what is needed and have actually read the bill. Listen to them and give them the help that they need.
And in return for codifying the border situation status quo, we get $60 billion for Ukraine, $14 billion for Israel, and $10 billion for Hamas. Oh, and a whole $650 million to expand the border wall. Wow! Where do I go to sign up for this good deal?
Republican Senator James Langford spent months working out a border policy deal with democrats only to have it deep-sixed by Republicans at the behest of Donald Trump. He’s disgusted and I don’t blame him.
This is just another attempt to confuse people for an agenda. ILLEGAL immigration is back down to the levels under Obama after having spiked up under tRump. LEGAL immigration, migrants, immigrants and asylum seekers are the numbers surging at the border. They are being processed per our immigration Law written by congress. They appear in front of a judge who determines if they have a case. Those that do stay, those that do not are deported.
Doubts swirl around Speaker Johnson’s abilities after ‘embarrassing’ losses:
Just 105 days into his embattled Speakership, doubts are swirling around Republican Speaker of the House Mike Johnson’s decision-making abilities, especially after two major votes in a row failed Tuesday night.
Illegal Mexican female immigrants are entering the country with the sole purpose of getting pregnant by some native born American. This interbreeding is crowding out those originally here – especially in the Western States. As we speak, the influx of female Mexican spadefoot toads has reached as far north as Montana. [science.sciencemag.orgcontent367 64841377]
*All intelligent people understand this is a satirical comment on border issues using a real science article of an amphibian infiltration. Sadly, I so embarrassed one of the commenters when I pointed this out he complained and had the original post removed.
The border bill is so bad it looks like it won’t get the votes to make it out of the Senate. Even McConnell is leaning against it. Republicans don’t fear Trump, they fear their constituents. AZ Example: Jeff Flake.
‘Self-defeating Republican Party’ torched by National Review writer
In an op-ed published at the National Review this Wednesday, Jim Geraghty contends that Democrats will never be as good at beating Republicans than Republicans are at beating themselves.
I’m amazed goodwyn didn’t have something on the Immunity claim getting shot down. Maybe I shouldn’t be surprised, these Snowflakes are so fragile and easily upset.
‘MAGA out of control’: GOP Senator says commentator threatened to destroy him over border
A Republican lawmaker Wednesday accused an unnamed “popular commentator” of threatening to destroy him if he pushed bipartisan border control legislation before the 2024 presidential election.
Sen. James Lankford (R-O.K.) made this accusation in a Senate session to vote on his bipartisan $118 billion border security-foreign aid to Israel and Ukraine bill that political analysts believe could be dead on arrival.
“If you try to move a bill that solves the border crisis during the presidential year, I will do whatever I can to destroy you,” Lankford said he was told. “Because I do not want you to solve this during the presidential election.”
“This is disgusting!” wrote Tommy Lavin. “The Republicans need to take their party back. MAGA is out of control.”
GiantShetlandPony 4 months ago
The only ones standing in the way of border control is the Republicans.
Patjade 4 months ago
Al continues to put out his fantasies as fact.
VegaAlopex 4 months ago
Let the Republicans of the House hand the issue to Drumpf who would own it.
feverjr Premium Member 4 months ago
“The bipartisan border deal would not allow 5,000 illegal crossings per day, despite what Trump says… What’s become a popular talking point among conservative Republicans opposed to an emerging immigration bill is incorrect. Here’s what it would do.
So where did this 5,000-a-day figure come from?
The bipartisan deal does include provisions that would shut down the border entirely if a certain threshold is hit, but those are border encounters, not crossings. As noted above, no migrants trying to enter the U.S. illegally would be allowed into the country unless they passed asylum interviews or were being held under government supervision.
Under the new immigration bill, the Department of Homeland Security could close the border if too many migrants were showing up with asylum claims. After negotiators conferred with the Border Patrol and officials at the Department of Homeland Security, they crafted the legislation to give DHS the authority to close the border if they reached a seven-day average of 4,000 or more border encounters. A seven-day average of 5,000 or more would mandate a border closure. If the number exceeded 8,500 in a single day, there would also be a mandatory border closure.
What happens if the border is closed?
If the border were shut down, at least 1,400 migrants per day who tried to enter at official ports of entry would still qualify to have their asylum claims considered. The rest would be turned away."
aristoclesplato9 4 months ago
It also allows the Prez to declare an emergency and ignore the 5000 limit. A limit that applies only to border space between ports of entry. The ports of entry will still be required to let illegal immigrants in. And yes, they are illegal if they falsely declare asylum status – a felony. Just ask Nadler. He called them illegal immigrants because that’s what they are.
Biden ignores the law today. Why would he care about this one. The Dems are pushing this so they can use it against Trump in 2025.
DC Swamp 4 months ago
Swiss cheese border policy.
dotbup 4 months ago
Quite the day of under-achievement and utter ineptitude from the MAGA cultists.
Dumped the immigration package with aid to Ukraine and Israel in the Senate.
Proposed a stand-alone package for the Ukraine and Israel aid in the Senate as a substitute — the very thing they griped about all the way back in October.
Failed miserably to pass their miserable impeachment of Mayorkas (this is a good thing, but demonstrates they do not have a governing caucus, or a whip, or anyone capable of simple math.
Failed to pass their substitute stand-alone bill for Israel aid in the House — which needed two-thirds to ensure passage. They were not even close, more head-counting fail.
Keep up the good work maga morons, looking forward to the “red wave” in November, it’s gonna be a bloodbath and they deserve it.
DangerMan 4 months ago
I dunno, I heard somewhere that the Border Patrol’s association has said it should be passed. But the noise machine is already distorting what’s in it and they were attacking it before they even saw what was in it.
frenat 4 months ago
5000 encounters but only counting those from Mexico and Canada. Does not count any from other countries. In other words, they’ll never get to 5000 as the vast majority are from other countries.
The Nodding Head 4 months ago
Solution: Whine. Promote racism. Worsen the labor shortage. Further polarize. Impeach. Do nothing to actually address reality. Hail Trump.
Free or Not? Premium Member 4 months ago
The reality is that the crossings would stop immediately if Biden would reinstitute Remain in Mexico and Stop Catch and Release. It is really very simple.
mac04416 4 months ago
After the ‘threshold is hit, it’s the presidents option. And you think Biden will do something? A lot of words so that nothing changes. Typical politician speech coming from both sides.
suzalee 4 months ago
The republican rejection of this bill shows that they are not serious about border control. The Border Patrol union, whose officials have actually read the bill want it passed. They know first hand what is needed.
suzalee 4 months ago
The Republicans got the bill they asked for. The fact that they are rejecting it shows that they are not serious about securing the border. They love going down there for photo ops and wringing their hands—they don’t want to give that up. The Border Patrol Union has approved this bill and asked that it be passed. They know first hand what is needed and have actually read the bill. Listen to them and give them the help that they need.
s49nav 4 months ago
And in return for codifying the border situation status quo, we get $60 billion for Ukraine, $14 billion for Israel, and $10 billion for Hamas. Oh, and a whole $650 million to expand the border wall. Wow! Where do I go to sign up for this good deal?
DrPawl 4 months ago
Republican Senator James Langford spent months working out a border policy deal with democrats only to have it deep-sixed by Republicans at the behest of Donald Trump. He’s disgusted and I don’t blame him.
Radish the wordsmith 4 months ago
Traitor Trump scotched the deal and left republicans with nothing.
Flatlander, purveyor of fine covfefe 4 months ago
Wow, what’s the point of the election? Seems the White House is in Florida. Every spineless GOP is scared of the man behind the curtain
Radish the wordsmith 4 months ago
‘Getting rid of McCarthy has turned into an unmitigated disaster’: GOP lawmaker
Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) thinks that dumping former Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) as House speaker was a major own goal by House Republicans.
ncorgbl 4 months ago
This is just another attempt to confuse people for an agenda. ILLEGAL immigration is back down to the levels under Obama after having spiked up under tRump. LEGAL immigration, migrants, immigrants and asylum seekers are the numbers surging at the border. They are being processed per our immigration Law written by congress. They appear in front of a judge who determines if they have a case. Those that do stay, those that do not are deported.
Radish the wordsmith 4 months ago
‘Embarrassing defeat’: Onlookers amazed at Republicans’ failure on major votes
House Republicans on Tuesday failed on two major votes, causing political experts and onlookers to condemn the GOP and Speaker Mike Johnson.
piper_gilbert 4 months ago
The Speaker is bound to keep the border open by command of Donald Trump. Everyone knows this. It’s all Trump has going into November.
Ontman 4 months ago
Did Johnson not read the bill? Oh, right he didn’t.
Radish the wordsmith 4 months ago
Doubts swirl around Speaker Johnson’s abilities after ‘embarrassing’ losses:
Just 105 days into his embattled Speakership, doubts are swirling around Republican Speaker of the House Mike Johnson’s decision-making abilities, especially after two major votes in a row failed Tuesday night.
thelordthygod666 4 months ago
Illegal Mexican female immigrants are entering the country with the sole purpose of getting pregnant by some native born American. This interbreeding is crowding out those originally here – especially in the Western States. As we speak, the influx of female Mexican spadefoot toads has reached as far north as Montana. [science.sciencemag.orgcontent367 64841377]
*All intelligent people understand this is a satirical comment on border issues using a real science article of an amphibian infiltration. Sadly, I so embarrassed one of the commenters when I pointed this out he complained and had the original post removed.
Al Fresco 4 months ago
The border bill is so bad it looks like it won’t get the votes to make it out of the Senate. Even McConnell is leaning against it. Republicans don’t fear Trump, they fear their constituents. AZ Example: Jeff Flake.
Radish the wordsmith 4 months ago
‘Self-defeating Republican Party’ torched by National Review writer
In an op-ed published at the National Review this Wednesday, Jim Geraghty contends that Democrats will never be as good at beating Republicans than Republicans are at beating themselves.
Tarzan & Redd Panda 4 months ago
I’m amazed goodwyn didn’t have something on the Immunity claim getting shot down. Maybe I shouldn’t be surprised, these Snowflakes are so fragile and easily upset.
DrDon1 4 months ago
Goodwyn showing how powerful the Insurrectionist-in-Chief’s grip on MAGAts really is…
DrDon1 4 months ago
Who knew the “unknown from Louisiana” was such a tRump Dingleberry?
Radish the wordsmith 4 months ago
‘MAGA out of control’: GOP Senator says commentator threatened to destroy him over border
A Republican lawmaker Wednesday accused an unnamed “popular commentator” of threatening to destroy him if he pushed bipartisan border control legislation before the 2024 presidential election.
Sen. James Lankford (R-O.K.) made this accusation in a Senate session to vote on his bipartisan $118 billion border security-foreign aid to Israel and Ukraine bill that political analysts believe could be dead on arrival.
“If you try to move a bill that solves the border crisis during the presidential year, I will do whatever I can to destroy you,” Lankford said he was told. “Because I do not want you to solve this during the presidential election.”
“This is disgusting!” wrote Tommy Lavin. “The Republicans need to take their party back. MAGA is out of control.”
Sun 4 months ago
Democrats do not have a plan to secure the border.
Salty dog Premium Member 4 months ago
How many people posting here have actually read the bill
Radish the wordsmith 4 months ago
Republicans are keeping the border open for the Trump Putin Maga party.
gordon.f.brown Premium Member 4 months ago
More lies, Al.
braindead Premium Member 4 months ago
Actually, when Johnson was asked about thoughts, his response was that there would be zero.
And he delivered.
.
More proof that republicans do not care about the border and never have. NEVER
They only want border chaos so they can use is as something else to weaponize and LIE about.
MuddyUSA Premium Member 4 months ago
Senator Schumer is a total waste of skin…………
justanudderpeeon 4 months ago
That border is open for specific reasons. What are those reasons? Bueller? Bueller? Anybody seen Bueller?