BY THE WAY… We all KNEW that The Hucksterbeast was NUTS when she was The Treasonweasel’s paid liar and shill, but now she has PROVED IT!!!
Fox News contributor Sarah Sanders on war powers: “I can’t think of anything dumber than allowing Congress to take over our foreign policy … The last thing we want to do is push powers into Congress’ hands and take them away from the president.” IT’S IN THE CONSTITUTION, YOU MORONIC COW!!!
I am glad that you are running for Congress, Brian—you have the proper take on limiting executive action and asserting Congressional constitutional power.
Do you think that it might be possible that the killing of General (it really doesn’t matter who) what’s his name was done to stop the protests. Protests against the government of a powerful Russian ally? If so, it worked.
We need to be careful in the distinction between the Commander-in chief acting to an imminent threat versus “making war”. The president is commander-in-chief so that there is no delay in acting in a true emergency (e.g. ordering the remnants of the Pacific Fleet into action December 7, 1941, before appealing to congress on the 8th). So the question needs to be asked in this case: what was Soleimani planning, when would it take place, and when was the decision made to target him? It seems improbable that all of those events came together and he was also vulnerable, at the same precise time, leaving no time to contact Congress.
It is truly unfortunate that because of his own actions, everything that the POTUS does gets scrutinized to the nth degree. He may well have been truly acting in the best interest of the country when he ordered the Soleimani be taken out, but because of the distrust that he has fostered we immediately second guess his motives. He only has himself to blame…although I’m sure he’ll blame everyone else.
War is tricky here. When the Constitution was written war took a long windup to start and time to wage. Deliberation was possible. Today war can be started and finished in an hour. Kind of hard to debate that.
Republicans hate peace dividends, it cuts into the profits of their Deep State arms manufacturing, why else would they keep an undeclared and unnecessary war in Afghanistan going on for 19 years. They would rather take Russian money washed through the NRA.
Using actual defense on your own soil from an attacking force as rationale the only justified conflict is World War II – and then only the war against Japan. (and no Ft. Sumter doesn’t qualify)
It might be nice, Brian, to let a few who happened also to be U.S. Generals weigh in. I don’t know presidential history enough just off the top of my head to say for certain, but my sense is they tended to keep the country out of armed conflict while in office.
Constitutional scholars may disagree with me on this, but I don’t really remember anywhere in the Constitution where it says that Congress can pas the ability to “declare war” onto any other branch of the Government if it appears politically ‘inconvenient’ to their reelection chances.
I can see it being awkward to interrupt campaigning and fund raising to make a decision on whether to declare war on another sovereign nation, but they gotta understand – it can’t ALWAYS be just about them – occasionally (okay, rarely) it has to be about us, their constituents!
It’s true that the two parties seem to mostly work together for the betterment of mankind. Where “mankind” means “rich people who donate to politicians”.
TR had it right. The Spanish-American War began when the Maine accidentally blew up (which I found out from an updated textbook on American history — It’s been nearly forty years since I was a graduate teaching assistant at Penn State.). Now, about the Tonkin Gulf incident…
Masterskrain Premium Member over 4 years ago
BY THE WAY… We all KNEW that The Hucksterbeast was NUTS when she was The Treasonweasel’s paid liar and shill, but now she has PROVED IT!!!
Fox News contributor Sarah Sanders on war powers: “I can’t think of anything dumber than allowing Congress to take over our foreign policy … The last thing we want to do is push powers into Congress’ hands and take them away from the president.” IT’S IN THE CONSTITUTION, YOU MORONIC COW!!!
thebashfulone over 4 years ago
I am glad that you are running for Congress, Brian—you have the proper take on limiting executive action and asserting Congressional constitutional power.
DaBoogadie over 4 years ago
Do you think that it might be possible that the killing of General (it really doesn’t matter who) what’s his name was done to stop the protests. Protests against the government of a powerful Russian ally? If so, it worked.
P51Strega over 4 years ago
We need to be careful in the distinction between the Commander-in chief acting to an imminent threat versus “making war”. The president is commander-in-chief so that there is no delay in acting in a true emergency (e.g. ordering the remnants of the Pacific Fleet into action December 7, 1941, before appealing to congress on the 8th). So the question needs to be asked in this case: what was Soleimani planning, when would it take place, and when was the decision made to target him? It seems improbable that all of those events came together and he was also vulnerable, at the same precise time, leaving no time to contact Congress.
Znox11 over 4 years ago
It is truly unfortunate that because of his own actions, everything that the POTUS does gets scrutinized to the nth degree. He may well have been truly acting in the best interest of the country when he ordered the Soleimani be taken out, but because of the distrust that he has fostered we immediately second guess his motives. He only has himself to blame…although I’m sure he’ll blame everyone else.
trimguy over 4 years ago
War is good for business.
ChristopherBurns over 4 years ago
War is tricky here. When the Constitution was written war took a long windup to start and time to wage. Deliberation was possible. Today war can be started and finished in an hour. Kind of hard to debate that.
Kip W over 4 years ago
You’re all looking at this wrong. Trump didn’t “assassinate” Soleimani. That’s such an ugly word!
He just found another way to stiff a business associate.
Radish the wordsmith over 4 years ago
Republicans hate peace dividends, it cuts into the profits of their Deep State arms manufacturing, why else would they keep an undeclared and unnecessary war in Afghanistan going on for 19 years. They would rather take Russian money washed through the NRA.
thelordthygod666 over 4 years ago
Using actual defense on your own soil from an attacking force as rationale the only justified conflict is World War II – and then only the war against Japan. (and no Ft. Sumter doesn’t qualify)
Andrew Sleeth over 4 years ago
It might be nice, Brian, to let a few who happened also to be U.S. Generals weigh in. I don’t know presidential history enough just off the top of my head to say for certain, but my sense is they tended to keep the country out of armed conflict while in office.
wellis1947 Premium Member over 4 years ago
Constitutional scholars may disagree with me on this, but I don’t really remember anywhere in the Constitution where it says that Congress can pas the ability to “declare war” onto any other branch of the Government if it appears politically ‘inconvenient’ to their reelection chances.
I can see it being awkward to interrupt campaigning and fund raising to make a decision on whether to declare war on another sovereign nation, but they gotta understand – it can’t ALWAYS be just about them – occasionally (okay, rarely) it has to be about us, their constituents!
Concretionist over 4 years ago
It’s true that the two parties seem to mostly work together for the betterment of mankind. Where “mankind” means “rich people who donate to politicians”.
katzenbooks45 over 4 years ago
I’m not convinced that the saying, “Even a broken watch is right twice a day” applies to the current occupant.
VegaAlopex over 4 years ago
TR had it right. The Spanish-American War began when the Maine accidentally blew up (which I found out from an updated textbook on American history — It’s been nearly forty years since I was a graduate teaching assistant at Penn State.). Now, about the Tonkin Gulf incident…