We have been in Afghanistan for twenty years. Clearly, Michael Ramirez believes that there should be no end to the forever carnage on which his corporate cronies enrich themselves.
There is a lot of money to be made in wars in which chicken hawks, who would never serve themselves or allow their children to serve, are willing to offer the brave heroes from the poor and middle classes as human sacrifices on the blood-stained altar of greedy corporate profits for the oil corporation and “defense contractors” of the “military-industrial complex” that EISENHOWER, the last decent Republican, warned us about.
THERE IS NO MILITARY SOLUTION to Afghanistan.
In today’s geopolitical reality, a ground war in South Asia by outside invading forces, is unwinnable. The best you can do is win an specific objective and get out.
The British and the Russians, as well as the United States, could not win in the deserts of Iraq and Afghanistan, just as we also could not win in the jungles of Vietnam.
Yes, we needed a response to the 9/11 terror attacks. Instead of a full-on war, it should have been a targeted police action to strike at the Al Qaeda base, take out Osama bin Laden (which Bush never did, allowing him to escape through Tora Bora into Pakistan) and then engage in heavy retaliatory strikes against the Taliban government, a seizure of all wealth and assets for a full victims’ compensation fund, and retaliation and financial penalties and seizures against the Saudis, who provided 15 of the 19 hijackers, and even more of the masterminds and all of the funding.
But oh yeah, the oil, because the Bush/Saud royal family connections were based on oil (as also was the wealth of Dick Cheney [Halliburton]) as the shared foundations of their wealth and they didn’t want to transition to the renewable energy sources that held no profit$ (for them)…
There’s no doubt that the middle east is a tar baby trap for nations. And there was no doubt that right wingers, who applauded Trump’s announcement that he would pull out would claim that Biden doing it is a bad idea.
Nothing new to see here. Why don’t you just go watch Fawks Nooze?
And Rambo-mirez is STILL trying for the Stiglich award.
Mr Ramirez, that’s a really awful likeness of Donald Trump next to Biden. He just said Biden is doing the right thing, just not fast enough.
Just more proof that Ramirez likes dead Americans.
Another day ending in “Y” and another inane cartoon from Ramirez!!
Someday, when the Afghan rulers (Taliban or otherwise) eventually stop fighting among themselves and find a way to exploit the estimated trillions of dollars worth of mineral resource wealth in the country, the U.S. will be back, in competition no doubt with Russia and China.
Will the situation in Afghanistan then be “Saudi Arabia, Revisited”?
Ironic isn’t it, that “Die Infidels” has become the underlying strategy/message of the GOP under Trumpism???
Arbitrary? Hardly, we have been waiting for somebody with the guts to make this decision for twenty years. Arbitrary? Not in the real world.
When you create a void………Evil takes advantage
So, when we used the same group to kill the infidel Russians was also bad? Michael Ramirez with the Earl of Sandwich: We shouldn’t end the war with the colonists and let them run their own country! Wisdom is when to know to stop doing the same thing and stop expecting a different result.
Cha Ching! Wars this long only benefit the greedy GOP and their buddies, contractors, etc….why, Cheney had ghost offices set up…. talk about demented…
As I understand Shill Ramirez, when “What’s-His-Name” announced that HE would withdraw the U.S. Military from Afghanistan, his supporters, especially Shill Ramirez, hailed him as an inspired and inspiring statesman and a brilliant international political strategist; however, following his November, 2020, election, when Biden considered the matter with his top advisors, including seasoned Department of Defense and Department of State experts, he announced that, for the safety and security not only of our military personnel, but also of those Afghans who allied with our military personnel, the withdrawal would indeed take place and be completed by 11 September 2021, i.e., 20 years to the day after four coördinated terrorist attacks against the U.S. by the Wahhabi terrorist group Al-Qaeda in 2001, Biden is reviled for foolishly enabling Afghan terrorists. For Shill Ramirez and all the GOP Leadershit liars, the true enemy is TRUTH, not PRUDENCE and WISDOM. As Joseph Goebbels taught Hitler so well, the Big Lie continues to be the favorite cudgel of the GOP Leadershit and Ramirez is one of their numerous treasonous, cudgel-wielding thugs.
Ramirez is worried about arms dealers and the Military Industrial Complex, I imagine. They will lose money and to him that is worse than American military losing their lives for NOTHING!
I see Ramirez has learned nothing. Didn’t you know? The Taliban was eliminated in 2002. Bush said so himself when he declared victory and set his sights on Iraq. That was 19 years ago.
“The Taliban’s ability to brutalize the Afghan people and to harbor and support terrorists has been virtually eliminated. "
“And as a result of the United States military, Taliban no longer is in existence. And the people of Afghanistan are now free.”
Trump’s proposed withdrawal was arbitrary; Joe’s gives time to plan. It’s obvious that the Taliban will take over no matter when we leave but this way, it gives free woman the time to get out if they want to. We should be offering them asylum especially the journalists and activists for women’s rights.
Those against.. are the ones that have not yet made a fortune from the war machine.
Don’t just go to the V.A. and ask if it was worth it, try Arlington Cemetary and graveyards all over Afganistan. There has to be a better way
@DD Wiz – Wow, you didn’t blame DJT. Indeed!
We’re still in NATO some thirty years after there is any real reason to do so. We should pull out of Europe and let the Euros fund their own defense. They have enough money.
If we leave Afghanistan, will it calm down or will it become a festering sore and a hotbed and training ground for Islamic terrorists? Will they then attack us again or our good ally Israel? We’ve lost more troops in training and in traffic accidents than in combat in Afghanistan the last several years. We relearned how to fight a guerilla war. What if Iran gives the Afghan terrorists nuclear technology? Iran can then strike the US a mortal blow without having their hands on the trigger.
I wanted to bring the entire XVIIIth Airborne Corps to Afghanistan on 9/12/01 and kill anyone who dared raise a rifle. Catch bin Laden and put him in a cage and slowly lower it into a vat of hog urine until he drowns and can never meet Allah. No relying on the Northern Alliance to help us. Break s**t and kill people. Then leave with the warning that if we ever have to come back, the very few survivors will write about what we did the second time around for a thousand years. Screw hearts and minds. Go for the jugular.
Seizure of all the funds to repay victims is a good idea. But the Saudi royal family was just as anguished over 9/11 as anyone else. They feared a backlash.
Wasn’t long ago that Trump wanted to pull all troops out of Afghanistan, and Republicans liked the idea then…
There are terrorists and dictators, and similar types across dozens of countries… why isn’t America in all of those countries too? Don’t give off some BS line that America is doing the world a favor by fighting the Taliban, don’t pretend the motivation to be there in the first place was noble.
What a waste…
most Americans are with Biden on the policy too, could have been drawn with uncles Sam next to Biden
You just HAD to find something huh Mikey? Is your Republican ID card confiscated if you actually agree with some sanity? Grow up and find some manhood
Now Biden needs to fight the Republican Taliban and win.
Trump was the making bad deals with the Taliban. Deals that the Taliban began violating right away. I agree, it’s bad leaving Afghanistan largely in the hands of the Taliban, but 20 years is enough. Hopefully, we will put in a place a system to help and take refugees, particularly the women and girls that have enjoyed being able to go to school for many of these years, that may not want to live under ultra conservative religious laws.
There was going to be a time we would have to leave. It likely should have been a decade ago, or at the least shortly after Osama Bin Laden was killed. That was what we were there for. Al Qaeda not the Taliban, evil and complicit with Al Qaeda as they may be in their own right.
Sadly, when you are fighting an idiotology such as the Taliban represents, you can’t get rid of it by killing them, as someone else will step into their place. The way to get rid of it is to educate people. The USA and it’s allies have done as much as they could for the last 20 years. Unless we want to be their indefinitely it is time to go.
The difference between Biden’s pull out of Afghanistan and Trump’s is huge. Trump was just going to have them pack bags and leave all their equipment behind for the Taliban. Just as he did in Syria leaving our allies the Kurds to fend for themselves. Biden’s pull out will likely be handled far more efficiently than that. It will be up to Afghans to decide if they want to be suppressed by the Taliban or not.
Uh, Mr. Ramirez, this is not Vietnam
Dow Jones is over 34,000, they don’t need Republicans apparently.
All the guy on the right needs to fit in as a trump supporter is a red hat.
So does this mean Reagan and HW Bush was buddy buddy with the Taliban when they withdrew US support as well? From the 70s to current day, US policy in that region has always been politically selfish, maniacal, and for profit driven.
DJT’s unilateral date was May 1st. At least Biden’s withdrawal date has some meaning attached to it. As for the future, we shall see.
USA was there for six more years than the Russians and still made very little difference. How many of your own do you wish to continue sacrificing? Or, perhaps you are volunteering to go over there and sort it out ?
He is trying to take credit for what Trump already had in place for May of this year except he wants to milk a few more military contracts so the BIG GUY gets his 10% cut
Perhaps Mr. Ramirez thinks we should’ve done the “final solution” espoused by his Dear Leader, to wit, using nukes. Killing millions is just collateral damage, after all, and if most of the Taliban are in Pakistan, a country with their own nukes, what could go wrong? Besides, it’s not like they were sitting right here at home in Magastan.
No, Mr. Ramirez just has to be content with his Dear Leader having killed hundreds of thousands of his own people, while he cut and run in Afghanistan, Syria, and Iraq and serviced his puppeteer, Putin.
Definition of arbitrary
1a : existing or coming about seemingly at random or by chance or as a capricious and unreasonable act of will
b : based on or determined by individual preference or convenience rather than by necessity or the intrinsic nature of something
2a : not restrained or limited in the exercise of power : ruling by absolute authority
Huh. Not a single one of those definitions fit this situation.
Even Trump agrees. Too bad he didn’t have the guts to do it himself, I guess the bribes were too small.
W Bush lied the USA into that war and republicans would not let us leave.
May 31, 2016
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