Tanks are incredibly heavy vehicles because of the armor. Batteries are also incredibly heavy. Marry the two together and we’re going to run into logistical and operational issues that most people can’t even imagine.
China is building aircraft carriers, long-range aircraft and refueling support, nuclear subs and expanding its global military footprint. The US military is suffering low recruitment targets, but spends its time mandating all non-combat military owned vehicles be EVs by 2035.
Clearly Mike has never worked a tactical mission requiring resupply. No doubt the entire US military relies heavily upon various means of solar power generation.
Since Mike never has served perhaps he should watch “Battle Cry” the story of the 101st Airborne in the Bastogne. That woukd give him some idea how important solar COULD be.
And should be. That’s fer shure, that’s fer DANG shure.
There was one situation where the Germans ran out of gas and had to abandon operational tanks and walk home. A large part of the reason Japan bombed Pearl Harbor is that the US had cut off their supply of petrol to their forces in China and they couldn’t keep going without it. Gasoline is a very difficult to obtain fuel and it can be blown up easily, so it isn’t an ideal energy source in any situation, and certainly not in a war. If something more reliable could be developed it would have to be an improvement.
I would like to see the electric motor that would power the current Abrams tanks! We would need to have a real powerful generation plant that can be flown in theater to power this tank. I suppose rubber band contraption would be more likely to work than “STARS” unquestioned loyalty to the woke, electric demi-god!!!!
All I want someone to tell me is, 1. when we have an electric grid that can’t keep up with current usage under heavy conditions and 2. we are arguably warming as a planet and will require more A/C, how are we going to meet demand when all cars are electric? And please don’t tell me well, we’ll just improve the infrastructure. HA! If we coulda we woulda.
This is a false argument. Tanks weigh a lot as it is. Batteries would significantly increase that weight, so no, the military will not go electric for big vehicles. And while an electric motor might make for a quieter tank, the racket from the tank treads will still be there.
Because even electric motors are not 100% efficient, you’ll still have a heat signature from the engine when you are on the move. You might not have a signature from fumes of burnt jjet fuel (M-1) or diesel (older tanks), but most weapons look for heat.
If your tank isn’t moving around, then the electric engine and batteries mean that you do not have to fire up the turbine or diesel, which greatly reduces your infrared and acoustic signatures. (You can probably run an Abrams for a while on its batteries, but all the electronics, etc is going to use power and eventually you need to start the engine.) But this mode, which is fine for ambushes, is not how US tanks are used. The US military believes in taking the fight to the enemy, not in waiting in ambush. The Germans got good at that, but they still lost the war because they could not re-supply or replace fast enough.
The enemy cannot ever cut off your supply of green energy, unless you have not properly prepared your infrastructure for the future. Don’t worry, petrol will figure into a successful military strategy for years to come
Erse IS better 10 months ago
What utter Horse Feces!
Judge Magney 10 months ago
Because petrofueled vehicles can’t run dry.
XF8U-3 10 months ago
Mike, you do realize the M1 has an unrivalled thirst for fuel?
ChristopherBurns 10 months ago
I guess that Mr. Ramirez thinks that non EV tanks can just pull up to a gas station.
scote1379 Premium Member 10 months ago
How did the Mfg. Overcome the Weight to Power ratio problem ?
braindead Premium Member 10 months ago
I guess Ramirez wants to defund the military industrial complex.
ElEfJay 10 months ago
I’ve not heard one sound about the US military switching to EV. I don’t even think AB EV could move a track vehicle. Anyone got a bead on this?
knutdl 10 months ago
Is Ramirez mental?
Sun 10 months ago
Electric Vehicle Junkyard Reality
baroden Premium Member 10 months ago
Your fear of anything new is just sad.
Havel 10 months ago
And what does the inexpensive drone that can destroy the tank run on?
Denver Reader Premium Member 10 months ago
The push is for consumer EVs which work well for many but not all situations.
billopfer Premium Member 10 months ago
One of the dumbest cartoons Mikey has ever produced.
NeoconMan 10 months ago
And what shall you say when the world runs out of oil and only China has EV tanks because America never bothered to develop the technology?
GentlemanBill 10 months ago
Tanks are incredibly heavy vehicles because of the armor. Batteries are also incredibly heavy. Marry the two together and we’re going to run into logistical and operational issues that most people can’t even imagine.
DC Swamp 10 months ago
China is building aircraft carriers, long-range aircraft and refueling support, nuclear subs and expanding its global military footprint. The US military is suffering low recruitment targets, but spends its time mandating all non-combat military owned vehicles be EVs by 2035.
China continues to laugh at us.
Durak Premium Member 10 months ago
Clearly Mike has never worked a tactical mission requiring resupply. No doubt the entire US military relies heavily upon various means of solar power generation.
Since Mike never has served perhaps he should watch “Battle Cry” the story of the 101st Airborne in the Bastogne. That woukd give him some idea how important solar COULD be.
And should be. That’s fer shure, that’s fer DANG shure.
shstuart Premium Member 10 months ago
How’s your horse, Michael?
Diane Lee Premium Member 10 months ago
There was one situation where the Germans ran out of gas and had to abandon operational tanks and walk home. A large part of the reason Japan bombed Pearl Harbor is that the US had cut off their supply of petrol to their forces in China and they couldn’t keep going without it. Gasoline is a very difficult to obtain fuel and it can be blown up easily, so it isn’t an ideal energy source in any situation, and certainly not in a war. If something more reliable could be developed it would have to be an improvement.
Jack7528 10 months ago
A little too much truth here:
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/11/09/electric-military-vehicles-are-part-of-biden-climate-agenda-pentagon-says.html
Yes, the program calls for hybrids first but I just don’t see it working, you can’t charge a tank for hours and expect results.
Will E. Makeit Premium Member 10 months ago
So when did Mattel get into making tanks?
Wlly Blly 10 months ago
Apparently Ramirez doesn’t think anybody at the Pentagon can think. I guess he believes in the inferior intellect of the military.
Seriously, just because they’re looking at one of the possibilities doesn’t mean they’re automatically going with it.
Just when I think he’s starting to see things rationally, he comes up with something as stupid as this.
Al Fresco 10 months ago
One way to put a dent in wars.
ncorgbl 10 months ago
Last year they asked if anyone had a gallon of gas.
ra.peinertjr.md 10 months ago
I would like to see the electric motor that would power the current Abrams tanks! We would need to have a real powerful generation plant that can be flown in theater to power this tank. I suppose rubber band contraption would be more likely to work than “STARS” unquestioned loyalty to the woke, electric demi-god!!!!
Stat_man99 10 months ago
Perfectly encompasses the whole EV debacle.
Another Take 10 months ago
Those folks wouldn’t have tank fuel either so…
Drgnslr Premium Member 10 months ago
They can’t even put together an electric vehicle presidential motorcade.
dogday Premium Member 10 months ago
All I want someone to tell me is, 1. when we have an electric grid that can’t keep up with current usage under heavy conditions and 2. we are arguably warming as a planet and will require more A/C, how are we going to meet demand when all cars are electric? And please don’t tell me well, we’ll just improve the infrastructure. HA! If we coulda we woulda.
MartinPerry1 10 months ago
And of course, their current amoured vehicles don’t need to be refueled at all.
AndrewSihler 10 months ago
True, great art work, though.
Baslim the Beggar Premium Member 10 months ago
This is a false argument. Tanks weigh a lot as it is. Batteries would significantly increase that weight, so no, the military will not go electric for big vehicles. And while an electric motor might make for a quieter tank, the racket from the tank treads will still be there.
Because even electric motors are not 100% efficient, you’ll still have a heat signature from the engine when you are on the move. You might not have a signature from fumes of burnt jjet fuel (M-1) or diesel (older tanks), but most weapons look for heat.
If your tank isn’t moving around, then the electric engine and batteries mean that you do not have to fire up the turbine or diesel, which greatly reduces your infrared and acoustic signatures. (You can probably run an Abrams for a while on its batteries, but all the electronics, etc is going to use power and eventually you need to start the engine.) But this mode, which is fine for ambushes, is not how US tanks are used. The US military believes in taking the fight to the enemy, not in waiting in ambush. The Germans got good at that, but they still lost the war because they could not re-supply or replace fast enough.
Free Radical 10 months ago
The enemy cannot ever cut off your supply of green energy, unless you have not properly prepared your infrastructure for the future. Don’t worry, petrol will figure into a successful military strategy for years to come