“At 6 weeks, an embryo does not have a fully formed heart. Rather, it has a cluster of cells (that eventually forms into a heart) that emits electrical signals, which can be detected on an ultrasound. The heartbeat “sound” on an ultrasound is actually generated by the ultrasound machine itself during this time period.Sept 8, 2021” – from Google
Stacy Abrams has allowed the christian community to present their doctors and biologists to demonstrate that their faith-based belief 6-week-old fetal tissue has a beating heart. The fact that no doctor or biologist is willing or able to do that is because everyone knows that fairy tale was designed as an argument in favor of denying a woman’s right to bodily autonomy.
Are all of you willing to to say to your kids that it’s a good thing for them that they weren’t an inconvenience because you would have snuffed them out? Should they say that to your grand kids?
I’m glad Mr. Kelley and the Alt-Reich are so concerned about children and willing to increase governmental assistance to preganant women so they can bear healthy children and then be able to care for them afterwards ….
We are now able to use stem cells that become embryos in artificial wombs that grow hearts, brains, the evolving fetus. No women needed. (Science, 26 Aug 2022)
She never said that. I listened to that clip. What she said was that viability and the woman’s health should be the metric right up to birth. That is, if it comes down to the life of a baby and the life of the mother, it should be the mother’s choice and not some politicians. As usual Kelly and his RWNJs took a comment out of context and made it into a statement she never said.
It would be so refreshing if we could just eliminate all of the idiocy from both extremes and have a truthful and respectful discussion. Hahahahahaha-just fantasizing here.
Kelley, just come out and say what you mean. You think women are utter morons. That’s what it means when the blithering idiot misogynists say things like “Abortion Until Birth”. So a woman is going to carry the fetus for 9 months and then abort the healthy baby? With full access to abortion, there are no elective abortions after 4 months, PERIOD! Because women are NOT morons. Everything after that is the unfortunate cases of unviable fetuses that shouldn’t even be categorized as abortions. But despicable losers like Kelley can’t admit what their goal is which is to turn women into cattle and throw them back into the kitchen barefoot and pregnant.
I have asked a number of Republican alleged representatives to explain the apparent paradox of being both anti-abortion and against providing reliable birth control and affordable pre-natal care. And now many of them are coming out against birth control methods.
The answer? No response. Same thing I got when I asked them to explain why a person couldn’t be able to defend himself and his family if he could only be allowed to purchase 12 handguns per year….
Like all nonsense spewed by womb regulators, “Fetal Heartbeat” laws are built on the false claim that electrical signals emitted by a clump of cells in an embryo represent something resembling a heart.
They pass laws making it more & more difficult to access birth control & abortion at the earliest stages, while conflating rare, yet horrific stories of later abortions as common.
It’s not about “valuing life”, it’s about keeping patriarchal authority in place. Women who can’t be forced to give birth have no place in Kelley’s world.
This is just normalizing human life as having no value. Babies today, adults tomorrow. This is part of the real war on women because about half of those murdered are female.
Unlike a heartbeat, which the alt right easily confuses with the presence of electrical signals, Kelly’s abnormally contracting brain should not be interpreted as a functioning brain. An EEG would show no activity in the smooth grey mass that occupies his diminutive cranium as evidenced by his complete lack of critical thinking.
What significance is there in a “heart beat” that is not also present in a forming neural tube or liver? None of these are are indicative a personhood or awareness. This entire issue is one chosen by forced birthers because of romantic associations of the heart with feelings, and makes as much sense.
Say What Now‽ Premium Member over 1 year ago
Does Skelly have a brain?
“At 6 weeks, an embryo does not have a fully formed heart. Rather, it has a cluster of cells (that eventually forms into a heart) that emits electrical signals, which can be detected on an ultrasound. The heartbeat “sound” on an ultrasound is actually generated by the ultrasound machine itself during this time period.Sept 8, 2021” – from Google
PraiseofFolly over 1 year ago
“Is a ‘Fetal Heartbeat’ Really a Heartbeat at 6 Weeks?”
https://www.livescience.com/65501-fetal-heartbeat-at-6-weeks-explained.html
Patjade over 1 year ago
SKelley doesn’t know science. Probably couldn’t tell the difference between a goat and a human embryo.
http://www2.hawaii.edu/~pine/book1qts/embryo-compare.html
knutdl over 1 year ago
“Abortion until birth.” In USA children die every day.
VegaAlopex over 1 year ago
A beating heart doesn’t make it a human yet. Eating meat does stop a beating heart.
cdward over 1 year ago
Again with the lies. And an embryo is not a person.
A# 466 over 1 year ago
Does Abrams support “Abortion until birth”? Or is that statement just another of Kelley’s lies posing as a political “opinion”?
walfishj over 1 year ago
Yes she has! Does Keley? With this BS I doubt it. He sure has no FACTS!
Stephen Runnels Premium Member over 1 year ago
Stacy Abrams has allowed the christian community to present their doctors and biologists to demonstrate that their faith-based belief 6-week-old fetal tissue has a beating heart. The fact that no doctor or biologist is willing or able to do that is because everyone knows that fairy tale was designed as an argument in favor of denying a woman’s right to bodily autonomy.
mxy over 1 year ago
Are all of you willing to to say to your kids that it’s a good thing for them that they weren’t an inconvenience because you would have snuffed them out? Should they say that to your grand kids?
Valiant1943 Premium Member over 1 year ago
Until birth is a bit misleading at best. There are cases where the child is actually dead and mothers are now forced to carry them till term.
mourdac Premium Member over 1 year ago
I’m glad Mr. Kelley and the Alt-Reich are so concerned about children and willing to increase governmental assistance to preganant women so they can bear healthy children and then be able to care for them afterwards ….
thelordthygod666 over 1 year ago
We are now able to use stem cells that become embryos in artificial wombs that grow hearts, brains, the evolving fetus. No women needed. (Science, 26 Aug 2022)
Drag0nr1der over 1 year ago
Another example of why MEN shouldn’t be left to make decisions for women.
BB71 over 1 year ago
Stacy Adams is a living example that abortion should be legal.
IndyW over 1 year ago
So true of a toon. Obviously Abram doesn’t much for brains either. And people think MTG is a loon??
ChristopherBurns over 1 year ago
She never said that. I listened to that clip. What she said was that viability and the woman’s health should be the metric right up to birth. That is, if it comes down to the life of a baby and the life of the mother, it should be the mother’s choice and not some politicians. As usual Kelly and his RWNJs took a comment out of context and made it into a statement she never said.
Because they have nothing but lies to offer.
Diamond Lil over 1 year ago
It would be so refreshing if we could just eliminate all of the idiocy from both extremes and have a truthful and respectful discussion. Hahahahahaha-just fantasizing here.
Jack7528 over 1 year ago
Good one!
Another Take over 1 year ago
Did she really support abortion up to birth or is this just the latest GOP Outrage Lie?
Frankfreak over 1 year ago
How many people, just a counter thought, wished they had never been born?
smartman over 1 year ago
Kelley, just come out and say what you mean. You think women are utter morons. That’s what it means when the blithering idiot misogynists say things like “Abortion Until Birth”. So a woman is going to carry the fetus for 9 months and then abort the healthy baby? With full access to abortion, there are no elective abortions after 4 months, PERIOD! Because women are NOT morons. Everything after that is the unfortunate cases of unviable fetuses that shouldn’t even be categorized as abortions. But despicable losers like Kelley can’t admit what their goal is which is to turn women into cattle and throw them back into the kitchen barefoot and pregnant.
Kurtass Premium Member over 1 year ago
She isn’t lying, then again, she isn’t a republican.
I Play One On TV over 1 year ago
I have asked a number of Republican alleged representatives to explain the apparent paradox of being both anti-abortion and against providing reliable birth control and affordable pre-natal care. And now many of them are coming out against birth control methods.
The answer? No response. Same thing I got when I asked them to explain why a person couldn’t be able to defend himself and his family if he could only be allowed to purchase 12 handguns per year….
Uncle Joe Premium Member over 1 year ago
Like all nonsense spewed by womb regulators, “Fetal Heartbeat” laws are built on the false claim that electrical signals emitted by a clump of cells in an embryo represent something resembling a heart.
They pass laws making it more & more difficult to access birth control & abortion at the earliest stages, while conflating rare, yet horrific stories of later abortions as common.
It’s not about “valuing life”, it’s about keeping patriarchal authority in place. Women who can’t be forced to give birth have no place in Kelley’s world.
rokkinrobin531 over 1 year ago
no heart+no brain+no lungs=no personhood at 6 weeks.
Rich Douglas over 1 year ago
It’s not a matter of morals or opinion. An embryo doesn’t develop a heartbeat until well into the second trimester.
Bill.Franklin over 1 year ago
This is just normalizing human life as having no value. Babies today, adults tomorrow. This is part of the real war on women because about half of those murdered are female.
wagnerfax over 1 year ago
Unlike a heartbeat, which the alt right easily confuses with the presence of electrical signals, Kelly’s abnormally contracting brain should not be interpreted as a functioning brain. An EEG would show no activity in the smooth grey mass that occupies his diminutive cranium as evidenced by his complete lack of critical thinking.
FJB Premium Member over 1 year ago
Why is killing babies the #1 policy for democrats? And is buying condoms, or “getting fixed”, or going on the pill so difficult for these people?
Li'l Dale over 1 year ago
Racist much, Mr Skelly???
MuddyUSA Premium Member over 1 year ago
From Google?
jader3rd over 1 year ago
Repugnant Kelly.
alex Coke Premium Member over 1 year ago
???
Ignatz Premium Member over 1 year ago
It doesn’t. The heart hasn’t developed.
And the idea than an embryo has more rights than a woman is completely insane.
braindead Premium Member over 1 year ago
Just another LIE by Trump Disciple SKelley.
Just like EVERY issue.
bufador over 1 year ago
What significance is there in a “heart beat” that is not also present in a forming neural tube or liver? None of these are are indicative a personhood or awareness. This entire issue is one chosen by forced birthers because of romantic associations of the heart with feelings, and makes as much sense.
Tonksquawk over 1 year ago
If men got pregnant, I wonder how much of an issue this would be.