Mike Luckovich for December 01, 2021

Alas, yes, they do mean “women”. Otherwise they would never have chosen to hear this case.

Yes, the real question is not when HUMAN LIFE begins, but when that LIFE become a HUMAN PERSON.

The clinical end of human life, at which point organs can be removed for transplant, is the cessation of measurable brain waves. The ONSET of measurable brain waves, is correspondingly the earliest point at which clinical human life can reasonably said to have occurred, late in the second trimester.

But it is more than just the beginning of LIFE or even PERSONHOOD.

The issue is not about LIFE.

It is about controlling women’s bodies. And the proof is that once a baby has been born, the same “pro-life” people will do NOTHING to help feed, clothe, educate or care for that child or its needs once it is no longer inside the female body they wish to control.

Further proof?

There is NO CONDITION under which a MAN is forced to use his body to keep another person alive. NONE. Even when the question of personhood is not on the table, such as the case of a fully adult human person.

Imagine the case of two adult persons: a perfect genetic match, such as identical twins. But they have become, for whatever reason, estranged.

There would never be a case in which an adult identical twin would not be FORCED to use his body, even for a very short time, to donate, say, bone marrow which regenerates fully, to keep his twin alive if he did not choose to do so voluntarily (as most more likely would). But it would be his CHOICE.

http://emerald7tfb.wordpress.com/2011/05/22/moral-issues-life-vs-personhood/

The Supreme Court of the United States is making sure that America if advancing BACKWARDS into the future!! Or is that rushing FORWARD into the past??!!

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Its not up to anyone except the woman who is pregnant. She has the final say! NO-ONE ELSE!

Brilliant, as usual, Mr. Luckovich.

You nailed it, sir.

The dark irony of 6 old men having the deciding votes on what a woman can do with her own body is simply sad. It’s like the Dred Scott case all over again.

Pack the Court unless we return to yesteryear and the entombment of all save the conservative white man.

They don’t care, because rich men will always be able to send their wives, daughters and mistresses to other countries to get their safe abortions.

According to this group, a woman has the right to bear children and serve her man. That’s about it. Even the cult Barrett belongs to says that.

Where do these pro-lifers stand on vaccinations?

When they can speak, reason, and vote.(republicans need only two of these factors-’reasoning and voting may not be paired)

The McConnell Court does not inspire confidence.

Apropos of nothing, some tribes waited until the individual was one year old, then they were people and could be named. It saved a lot of grief, as infant mortality was very high.

When they are no longer dependant on the human host – by themselves, without being artificially kept alive by the NICU machinery.

Poor drawing of Amy but otherwise spot on.

You could change that sign Gorsuch is holding to read “Voting Rights” and this toon would still work.

When does a person become so evil, they are no longer human?

Given the makeup of the court.. the trial is a sham. What surprises me is that there must be republican women that need/want reproductive services as well. This can only mean that republican women know their place.. and must not contradict men.

When the fetus can survive outside the womb…

When does the right to lie under oath to Congress kick in?

Lots of scholarly articles on this, one here:

https://onlabor.org/abortion-restrictions-as-forced-labor-in-the-age-of-trump/

By restricting abortion you are sentencing women into forced childbirth which a violation of the Constitution’s prohibition on involuntary servitude.

Yup, that’s the question. And the answer is https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/410/113

That’s the full text of Roe v. Wade, and it lays out the case convincingly that there is no single point in which all rights magically kick in (just as there’s no consistency as to when you can carry a rifle, qualify for juvenile justice, vote, get elected to Congress, or retire). It was written by Justice Harry Blackmun (appointed by Richard Nixon), of whom Wikipedia notes “Between 1950 and 1959, Blackmun served as resident counsel for the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota.” That background made him the best qualified person on the Supreme Court to explain both the medical and legal reasoning behind his landmark ruling, and he did so in language readily accessible to the layperson.

I think the full text of that decision (including the dissent from Justices Byron White and William Rehnquist) should be required reading in all HS senior history classes.

Humans have been in population overshoot for awhile now and the process of collapse is ticking along nicely. Note: collapse is a process not a single event, enjoy.

A blastocyst will, under the proper conditions, eventually turn into a human being.

Similarly, given modern gene-cloning techniques, any human cell that contains DNA (which is to say, all of them) can also, under the proper conditions, eventually turn into a human being.

Think about that when you wipe out a couple hundred potential human beings next time you scratch your nose, you mass murderer!

The self-proclaimed pro-life* crowd is entirely too obsessive about the imaginary people they claim to be concerned about. They need to calm down, switch off their circuit diagrams, get out of their blueprints, sit in the shade of their acorns, listen to the pleasant songs of the eggs, and stop to smell the pollen.

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*short for “proliferators”

I so wanted to challenge the Monsignor who was giving us our PreCanaan counseling on the Catholic belief on when the soul enters the body… i.e. the hypocrisy of the entire thing, but then he would have refused to marry us, thus breaking my grandfather’s heart. (We moved everything up by 8 months due to his cancer and the unpredictability of the US Navy and ship deployments back in the early 1980s. No, I was not pregnant, as most guests thought.)

I don’t know who should make that decision, but not those six dumb clucks. (Actually, it should be between a woman and her health care provider. Period.)

Republicans want the government to control pregnancy.

Cavanaugh looks like all he can think of is getting his hands on a beer. Or a sixpack. Or a keg.

^^ Cavanaugh ‘deciding’ on any issue concerning a women’s rights !! That would be funny if it wasn’t such a really really stupid idea.