Bob Gorrell for September 13, 2021

I’ll bet that Gorrell laughs at traffic accidents too, especially if there is blood.

Another LIE from Trump Disciple Gorrell.

There are NO mandates. There are choices: Get vaccinated, get tested, or get another job, method of transportation, etc.

Mr. Bore-all, Where in your constitution does it say you can become a walking plague spreader?

I do not know about you, but I was required to have: measles, mumps. rubella, whooping cough shots. Tetanus plus boosters. Small pox. people lined up for the polio vaccine. Seems those things have worked since there are not a lot of cases of those around. Gee, maybe this mandate is a good thing? It might save many lives.

Gorell knows that we the people have long been required to be vaccinated for many diseases, though some are purely optional. He knows this. He’s certainly an adult and certainly has been vaccinated many times over his life, many of them because he had no choice. And he knows that the constitution says nothing about vaccines, and that SCOTUS has several times ruled that such mandates are legal when necessary. That proves him to be a damned liar!

George Washington ran roughshod over the Constitution when he mandated smallpox vaccinations. Is that your point, Bob?

Sorry. Constitution isn’t on your side here. The Supreme Court has already ruled its constitutional to force people to follow established public health practices to protect the citizenry as a whole.

Your “personal freedoms” don’t allow you to put others at risk.

Seems to be the RW meme this week, so here’s the response:

Goofy Gorrell certainly doesn’t know anything about the Constitution. Mandatory vaccinations and inoculations have been something that can be made mandatory since the days of George Washington.

https://www.loc.gov/rr/scitech/GW&smallpoxinoculation.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2021/08/29/george-washington-smallpox-inoculation-army/

If Goofy Gorrell had ever gone to school or served in the military, he would have had to have mandatory vaccinations.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents/records/schools.html

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK220954/

If you’ve ever gone to certain locations overseas, you have to have certain vaccinations.

https://www.medicinenet.com/do_you_need_vaccinations_before_traveling_abroad/views.htm

So take your phony Constitution propaganda and shove it, Goofy Gorrell. You don’t have the Constitutional right to infect and kill people around you.

Today mandatory vaccinations are legal and Constitutional, but with this Supreme Court, that could change.

Bobby, just because you disagree does not make something unConstitutional.

I’d really love to see anyone point out, in the official U.S. Constriction, where “vaccine mandates” or “mask mandates” are even mentioned, let alone cited as a “bad thing”. But, I’m thinking that Bob Goral bases his decisions on a different Constitution, one called the “Trumpstitution”!

State laws andate seat belts, helmets for motorcycle riders, helmets for construction workers, vaccines for (measles, mumps, rubella, polio), babies get (diphtheria.pertussis, tetanus).But I’ll bet you Gorrell doesn’t even know what these things are/

RW cartoonists seem to have taken an especially big dose of foolish pills since Herr Gropingfuror was tossed out of office on November 3, 2020.

If in 1351 there was even the possibility of an effective preventative to the Bubonic (Black) Plague, people would have fallen to their knees in gratitude and relief.

There is absolutely nothing unconstitutional about Vaccine Mandates. In fact, the ones OPPOSING THEM are the ones violating the Constitution.

Remember PROTECT THE GENERAL WELFARE, Russian Tool?

In addition to those vaccinations, when I joined the army I received another armload of vaccinations.

You should consider actually reading the Constitution at some point Bob.

The Preamble of the Constitution contains this clause “to promote the general welfare”. Therefore, mandatory vaccinations are constitutional.

https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/preamble

16/96

same needle as:

https://www.gocomics.com/bobgorrell/2017/07/28

https://theweek.com/cartoons/431218/wrong-medicine

Uncle Sam appears to be new

If yesterday’s cartoon had a pro-vaccine message, it was IMMEDIATELY undercut by this one.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/how-will-bidens-vaccine-mandate-impact-workers-companies-2021-09-13/

“the Labor Department’s Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) will issue a rule using emergency authority in the coming weeks to require employers with more than 100 employees to ensure their workers get vaccinated or get tested weekly.”

OR GET TESTED WEEKLY.

No one is being forced to get the vaccine, you have the option of being tested every week.

We wouldn’t need these mandates if you and the right wing media hadn’t spent this entire pandemic playing it down, and spreading disinformation, and instead encouraged their audience to get the vaccine and to wear masks until we slow the spread.

Nurses are hitting their breaking point:

https://www.ksl.com/article/50238400/front-line-fatigue-icu-nurses-taking-brutal-blows-to-their-mental-health

“People will come in and say, ’You’ll put me in the ground before you’ll vaccinate me.’ And then they get their wish,” she said. "Now you’ve turned something from your problem into my problem.

“I’m going to have to be the one to watch you slowly die over the next few weeks. I have to be the one to hold your wife’s hand. I have to field your family’s calls. People say ‘my body, my choice,’ but you’re not going to have to be the one that puts that body in a body bag.”

https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/worst-surge-we-ve-seen-some-hospitals-delta-hot-spots-close-breaking-point

“Health care providers never got a break,” McDeavitt says. “We’ve had nurses say, ‘I quit; I’m going home; I can’t do this anymore.’ We’re seeing people just resign because they’ve had enough.”

This is the result of right wing disinformation.

Study your history, Bob. The nation has had many mandates to get vaccines that defeated all kinds of diseases. Now, we have another one, as deadly as the others and a vaccine to combat and defeat it, but only if we all get it. We are in a war here with an unseen enemy. Our defense is washing hands, watching your distance, wearing a mask, and, lastly, waring with vaccines. In the past, we put aside our rights for the good of all. Is your view now that your rights come first, and to hell with anyone else’s ability to breathe? That’s not what made America great. United we stand; divided we fall. Good words then, and good words, now.

Should ‘Gullible’ be held accountable for the needlessly premature deaths of COVID-19 victims?

Too many breakthrough infections. The vaccine doesn’t work.

David Frum tweet thread concerning what is happening with the mandate including sources.

https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/1437117688250310659

George Washington required his troops to be vaccinated against smallpox at Valley Forge. Vaccine mandates are not new. Most public schools require six or seven. How is this new one suddenly unconstitutional?

The GOP may be pitching a hissy fit over vaccine mandates, but most business leaders (from what I’ve heard) are all for them. Especially if it gets most of the remaining fence sitters vaxxed up and they can head back to work. According to the latest from the CDC, over 64% percent of Americans 16 and older are fully vaccinated and close to 75% have had at least one dose. Delta at least jump started what was until recently a badly stalled vaccination effort. A lot of people got their jabs when they saw their unvaxxed friends and/or family members falling ill. Reason eventually penetrates all but the thickest of skulls.

The right to be a stupid ass is not written in the Constitution.

I guess I’m in the minority here regarding whether the fed vax mandate is Constitutional. I’m fairly certain it isn’t. No, I’m not an attorney but my work has involved working with legal matters, legislation, regulation and sometimes litigation. This led me to an interest in Constitutional Law many years ago. It helps that my best buddy, my brother, who is an attorney likes to discuss this stuff with me. Between him and the numerous attorneys I know, I’ve learned a lot.

You have to understand that there is a legal distinction between the mandate in question and what people typically cite as precedent, such as having to get vaccinated for measles, etc., for school, military service or even as a requirement issued by a private sector employer.

State laws and private sector employer mandates have been established in case law as Constitutional (with the proviso that “reasonable accommodations” are in place – typically medical or religious exemptions). The most common defense of the Biden mandate is the Jacobson vs. Massachusetts SCOTUS decision in 1905, which involved the City of Cambridge’s smallpox vaccination requirement. Scotus ruled in favor of Cambridge and their vaccination requirement. Bingo! Vax requirements are Constitutional! Not so fast. The ruling said that STATES under their general police powers had the ability to enact vaccine laws to protect citizens. Besides the State vs. Fed distinction, there is a case to be made that the threat posed by smallpox in 1905 was greater than covid to the individual in that it was far more lethal.

It has NEVER been decided as a Constitutionally enumerated power of the federal government outside of government employees.

Continued…

The Biden cabal knows this so they’re trying to use the Department of Labor (OSHA, specifically) to mandate vaccines through regulation established through the interstate commerce rules that allow for OSHA to require employers comply with a boatload of safety regs. It’s not really a back door approach, but I think it qualifies as a side door sneak.

Here’s one of the problems with this approach. There is precedent that indicates that when this gets to the Supremes, and it will, it’s going to be decided as unConstitutional in part citing at least one relatively recent SCOTUS decision. That will be the first Obama Care lawsuit which found that the fed had no independent power to compel private intrastate businesses as part of a regulatory scheme. That is, the fed cannot commandeer businesses to impose mandates that it cannot itself impose directly. However, this may be questionable regarding interstate businesses (as opposed to intrastate), but there are other issues that will include all businesses.

The courts will examine whether the mandate has an “arbitrary and capricious” aspect which is 100% guaranteed to be cited in every legal challenge to the mandate. The likely and most obvious items that qualify as A&C is that there is no consideration given to natural immunity and the magic number of 100 employees. It fully ignores natural immunity and 100 employees means nothing. Is a 99 employee widget factory somehow different than one with 100 employees? Does a small company with 10 employees inherently possess some smaller risk regarding covid? No, probably the opposite.

Also sure to be challenged – the requirement for weekly testing if not vaxxed. This provides no proper benefit, in legal terms, other than to coerce people to get vaccinated. That will be ruled down, too, IMO.

I am vaxxed and think everyone should be. But I am anti-mandate in this case, so I’m getting hell from both ends :P

The Supreme Court has said that there is no law to prohibit the government from requiring vaccines or vaccinations. They decided that when the smallpox vaccine first became available. (1796)

Do you still have the list of vaccines you had to take to go to school when you were a child? Why don’t you grow up and stop spreading deadly disease?

Simply put Gorrell is a destructive fool.

Gorrell hopes his audience is too stupid to know we have mandated vaccinations for decades. He also hopes people will die if he limits immunity. Evil incarnate!

Supreme Court already found Mandatory Vaccines constitutional. Are all right wing insurgent terrorists like you so ignorant of the Constitution and the law?

no no no! don’t confuse me with reality’s facts and truth! And do look back at Matt Davis’ cartoon for today (9/13/21)….for ‘reference’. https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/rsrc.php/v3/y4/r/-PAXP-deijE.gif

I think in this case the vaccine shots should be mandated. That’s the only way to lick this thing! And to keep other things like Delta variants from popping up.

Gorrell will fight for the right to both liberty AND death.

Odd how GQPs are all upset by a Biden mandate, but not upset when GQP governors issue their own mandates…

Have any republicans ever actually read the Constitution? I’m thinking no. They treat it like the Bible. A weapon they don’t know how to use.

Hey Bob, read this.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/what-jacobson-v-massachusetts-how-supreme-court-ruled-vaccine-mandate-1905-1627761%3famp=1

Or have someone read it to you.

Sadly, Bob never learned that Freedom to Infect is not a Constiutional right.

Paranoid personality disorder

→ Pervasive distrust and suspicion of others and their motives.

→ The unjustified belief that others are trying to harm or deceive them.

→ Unjustified suspicion of the loyalty or trustworthiness of others.

Reading so many posts and seeing so many editorial cartoons about distrust in vaccinations and the Covid vaccination, in particular, I really wonder how many people have undiagnosed Paranoid Personality Disorder.

Vaccine mandates have been around since George Washington. Your understanding of the US Constitution is lacking.

And there is NOTING in the Constitution that prevents the state from requiring a vaccine. In fact it was our First General (George Washington) who mandated inoculations of the entire army against measles, and one of our most favorite presidents (Eisenhower) who mandated the Polio vaccine. There have also been multiple supreme court cases upholding the states right to mandate tehse vaccines. grow up and stop trumpeting BS.

Vaccines have been mandated since the founding of our country. That’s why most of the diseases that used to kill us no longer exist. Just cut the political BS.

The Constitution supports those of us who got Vaccinated and don’t want puerile, irresponsible, self-entitled AntiVaxxers and Anti-Maskers oppressing OUR CONSTITUTIONALLY-GUARANTEED RIGHTS, FREEDOMS and LIBERTIES by making it dangerous to interact with society!

When it comes to the Constitution, the irresponsible brats have nothing to stand on!

Regarding vaccination mandates by state and federal governments, NO. There are not and never has been. As far as the claim of school shots for measles, mumps, polio sugars etc, ALL of them had to be approved by the parents. I remember those times and had to bring in approval forms to be signed by my parents to get those vaccinations. So all you vaxxing fascists insisting that you had no choice are only correct in that YOU had no choice, but your parents DID.

BTW Happy Constitution Day everyone!