Liz voted with Trump more than not for the last four years. Much as it’s good that she accepts a free and fair election for what it was, it doesn’t erase the last four years that she supported Trump’s every whim.
To judge from the edgy interviews Liz Cheney has given over the years, Democrats should beware showing her much sympathy now. She is 99 44/100 percent pure Conservative; and she would, in my opinion be suited to the role of Lady Macbeth. Her father also seemed to me a snide Shakespearean character, an ambitious advisor behind the throne seeking some degree of pay-back revenge in his bitter policies through his long career.
Siding with a Cheney while deploring the Cheney’s political and economic beliefs is the manifestation of a sense of decency common to almost all intelligent, educated, experienced, rational, patriotic Americans for two reasons. (1) We know and value the principle of a level playing field and (2) we remember, dimly for some, the words of Pastor Martin Niemöller:
First they came for the Communists / And I did not speak out / Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists / And I did not speak out / Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists / And I did not speak out / Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews / And I did not speak out / Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me / And there was no one left / To speak out for me
Before some far-right troll makes some snarky comment about liberals loving Liz, I will state that Liz Cheney has done very little that is admirable.
As John Nichols writes in “the Nation”, “Liz Cheney is not some moderate maverick Republican who is breaking with her party on policy. She is a right-wing warmonger whose crude attacks on people of color, immigrants, Muslims, and progressives carry the same venom as those of the most extreme members of her caucus—and of the 45th president, whose election in 2016 and reelection in 2020 she enthusiastically supported.”
Considering her history as one of the most dedicated dumpf-suckers out there, I’m not at all sure that Cheney’s stance has anything at all to do with actual integrity or concern for the Constitution. I think she’s playing a long game—she he realizes that the magats are going too far and that, while upsetting and dangerous, the path of total war that the GQP is taking will ultimately fail. By spouting her current line, she is a martyr who can step out of the scrum and then when they have nuked themselves into oblivion, she gets to step up and say “See, I was a good guy and a victim so now I get to run the ‘new’ Republican party”. Always remember, she’s a lifetime rethuglican and nothing means anything to them except their own power and profit.
Liz Cheney secretly busted the GOP behind closed doors for hiding important facts about Trump
The conservative Wyoming lawmaker called out GOP officials for having evidence that Donald Trump trailed badly in the polls — and then hid that information from the Republican Party leadership.
“Rep. Liz Cheney had been arguing for months that Republicans had to face the truth about former president Donald Trump — that he had lied about the 2020 election result and bore responsibility for the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol — when the Wyoming Republican sat down at a party retreat in April to listen to a polling briefing. The refusal to accept reality, she realized, went much deeper.”
“Trump’s unfavorable ratings were 15 points higher than his favorable ones in the core districts, according to the full polling results, which were later obtained by The Washington Post. Nearly twice as many voters had a strongly unfavorable view of the former president as had a strongly favorable one,” the Post reports before adding, “Cheney was alarmed, she later told others, in part because Republican campaign officials had also left out bad Trump polling news at a March retreat for ranking committee chairs. Both instances, she concluded, demonstrated that party leadership was willing to hide information from their own members to avoid the truth about Trump and the possible damage he could do to Republican House members, even though the NRCC denied any such agenda.”
Matt Gaetz tweeted this yesterday: "President Donald Trump, Donald Trump Jr, RudyGiuliani, Steve Bannon, Matt Gaetz – it’s never the meek that they come for. It’s always those who are fighting hard for the America First agenda, and I’ve got a lot of fight left in me.”
That’s cute. But everyone on Gaetz’s list has committed clear-cut felonies, so of course they’re all being targeted. It has nothing to do with politics, partisanship, or who is or is not meek.
White House reporter Brian Karem responded to Matt Gaetz’s tweet and ripped him to pieces: “No son. They’re just after the seditionists, sex traffickers, pedophiles and assorted creeps.”
Republicans purging their own members when they don’t think those members are extreme enough… just like other totalitarian groups like the Nazis and Taliban and ISIS…
Liz Cheney secretly organised move to help stop Trump using military to overturn election, report claims
On 3 January, just three days before the Capitol riot, 10 former Pentagon leaders, including two who served in the Trump administration, signed an op-ed in The Washington Post.
“Efforts to involve the U.S. armed forces in resolving election disputes would take us into dangerous, unlawful and unconstitutional territory,” they wrote.
Americans appear to like the new direction of the country. Seventy-seven percent liked the American Rescue Plan and 56% like Biden’s proposed American Jobs Plan for infrastructure, while 65% want to tax people making more than $400,000 a year to pay for it. At the same time, a new Pew poll suggests that the divisiveness of the Trump years is easing and that young people in particular are not interested in the culture wars.
Faced with the prospect of voters rejecting their economic policies, Republican leaders are undermining democracy.
Fox News made me do it: Capitol attack suspect pulls ‘Foxitis’ defense
Anthony Antonio, who faces five charges over role in January riot, ‘started believing what was being fed to him’, lawyer says
Anthony Antonio, who is facing five charges including violent entry, disorderly conduct and impeding law enforcement during civil disorder, fell prey to the persistent lies about the so-called “stolen election” being spread daily by Donald Trump and the rightwing network that served him, his attorney Joseph Hurley said during a video hearing on Thursday.
Antonio spent the six months before the riots mainlining Fox News while unemployed, Hurley said, likening the side effects of such a steady diet of misinformation to a mental health syndrome.
“Fox television played constantly,” he said. “He became hooked with what I call ‘Foxitis’ or ‘Foxmania’, and became interested in the political aspect and started believing what was being fed to him.”
Concretionist almost 3 years ago
Trump-monkey → trunkey → trunk monkies :: GQP
Daeder almost 3 years ago
Then again, maybe it’s a good thing for her that she’s losing her captaincy of the sinking Titanic.
Coopersdad almost 3 years ago
I never thought I would EVER be on the side of a Cheney, but “here we are”!!!!!
LookingGlass Premium Member almost 3 years ago
To paraphrase Harry S. Truman…
If you want a friend in Washington, get a dog!!
;-)
GiantShetlandPony almost 3 years ago
Liz voted with Trump more than not for the last four years. Much as it’s good that she accepts a free and fair election for what it was, it doesn’t erase the last four years that she supported Trump’s every whim.
PraiseofFolly almost 3 years ago
To judge from the edgy interviews Liz Cheney has given over the years, Democrats should beware showing her much sympathy now. She is 99 44/100 percent pure Conservative; and she would, in my opinion be suited to the role of Lady Macbeth. Her father also seemed to me a snide Shakespearean character, an ambitious advisor behind the throne seeking some degree of pay-back revenge in his bitter policies through his long career.
VegaAlopex almost 3 years ago
I suppose Drumpf is the Wicked Witch of the West?
VegaAlopex almost 3 years ago
I suppose Drumpf be the Wicked Witch of the West.
Gary Williams Premium Member almost 3 years ago
do they realize who her father is and what he did and can do again.
superposition almost 3 years ago
A dissenter in an evil brotherhood is not necessarily a good person.
Display almost 3 years ago
Sympathy for her is like feeling better about the snake bite that’ll kill you in minutes rather than the bites that will kill you in seconds.
Masterskrain Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Seriously, HOW INSANE is it that a Cheney should now be the voice of reason and honesty in the Qpublican Party???
codak almost 3 years ago
so is LIZ the witch who lost control of her flying monkeys?
cocavan11 almost 3 years ago
Siding with a Cheney while deploring the Cheney’s political and economic beliefs is the manifestation of a sense of decency common to almost all intelligent, educated, experienced, rational, patriotic Americans for two reasons. (1) We know and value the principle of a level playing field and (2) we remember, dimly for some, the words of Pastor Martin Niemöller:
First they came for the Communists / And I did not speak out / Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists / And I did not speak out / Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists / And I did not speak out / Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews / And I did not speak out / Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me / And there was no one left / To speak out for me
Ontman almost 3 years ago
Casualty of the big orange lie.
Zebrastripes almost 3 years ago
Hang in there Liz! The monkeys are making fools of themselves, AGAIN! They like to $hIT on their own….
Newenglandah almost 3 years ago
Before some far-right troll makes some snarky comment about liberals loving Liz, I will state that Liz Cheney has done very little that is admirable.
As John Nichols writes in “the Nation”, “Liz Cheney is not some moderate maverick Republican who is breaking with her party on policy. She is a right-wing warmonger whose crude attacks on people of color, immigrants, Muslims, and progressives carry the same venom as those of the most extreme members of her caucus—and of the 45th president, whose election in 2016 and reelection in 2020 she enthusiastically supported.”
cpiller Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Considering her history as one of the most dedicated dumpf-suckers out there, I’m not at all sure that Cheney’s stance has anything at all to do with actual integrity or concern for the Constitution. I think she’s playing a long game—she he realizes that the magats are going too far and that, while upsetting and dangerous, the path of total war that the GQP is taking will ultimately fail. By spouting her current line, she is a martyr who can step out of the scrum and then when they have nuked themselves into oblivion, she gets to step up and say “See, I was a good guy and a victim so now I get to run the ‘new’ Republican party”. Always remember, she’s a lifetime rethuglican and nothing means anything to them except their own power and profit.
Radish the wordsmith almost 3 years ago
The Cult of Big Lie Racist Trump ousts any member who dare speak truth to power.
Radish the wordsmith almost 3 years ago
Liz Cheney secretly busted the GOP behind closed doors for hiding important facts about Trump
The conservative Wyoming lawmaker called out GOP officials for having evidence that Donald Trump trailed badly in the polls — and then hid that information from the Republican Party leadership.
“Rep. Liz Cheney had been arguing for months that Republicans had to face the truth about former president Donald Trump — that he had lied about the 2020 election result and bore responsibility for the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol — when the Wyoming Republican sat down at a party retreat in April to listen to a polling briefing. The refusal to accept reality, she realized, went much deeper.”
“Trump’s unfavorable ratings were 15 points higher than his favorable ones in the core districts, according to the full polling results, which were later obtained by The Washington Post. Nearly twice as many voters had a strongly unfavorable view of the former president as had a strongly favorable one,” the Post reports before adding, “Cheney was alarmed, she later told others, in part because Republican campaign officials had also left out bad Trump polling news at a March retreat for ranking committee chairs. Both instances, she concluded, demonstrated that party leadership was willing to hide information from their own members to avoid the truth about Trump and the possible damage he could do to Republican House members, even though the NRCC denied any such agenda.”
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-cheney/
Radish the wordsmith almost 3 years ago
Matt Gaetz tweeted this yesterday: "President Donald Trump, Donald Trump Jr, RudyGiuliani, Steve Bannon, Matt Gaetz – it’s never the meek that they come for. It’s always those who are fighting hard for the America First agenda, and I’ve got a lot of fight left in me.”
That’s cute. But everyone on Gaetz’s list has committed clear-cut felonies, so of course they’re all being targeted. It has nothing to do with politics, partisanship, or who is or is not meek.
White House reporter Brian Karem responded to Matt Gaetz’s tweet and ripped him to pieces: “No son. They’re just after the seditionists, sex traffickers, pedophiles and assorted creeps.”
https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/matt-gaetz-gets-ripped-to-pieces/38745/
ferddo almost 3 years ago
Republicans purging their own members when they don’t think those members are extreme enough… just like other totalitarian groups like the Nazis and Taliban and ISIS…
Teto85 Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Is Liz Cheney the Ernst Röhm of the GOP?
Radish the wordsmith almost 3 years ago
Liz Cheney secretly organised move to help stop Trump using military to overturn election, report claims
On 3 January, just three days before the Capitol riot, 10 former Pentagon leaders, including two who served in the Trump administration, signed an op-ed in The Washington Post.
“Efforts to involve the U.S. armed forces in resolving election disputes would take us into dangerous, unlawful and unconstitutional territory,” they wrote.
https://money.yahoo.com/liz-cheney-secretly-organised-move-151131471.html
Masterskrain Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Interesting that Today is the anniversary of the Defeat of Totalitarian Fascism by the ORIGINAL members of Antifa… it’s V.E. Day.
The Qpublicans don’t want to be reminded, since that’s also what happened on Nov. 6th, 2020.
walstib Premium Member almost 3 years ago
I would never park my car under a line of birds. How much worse under a line of flying monkeys!
Radish the wordsmith almost 3 years ago
Americans appear to like the new direction of the country. Seventy-seven percent liked the American Rescue Plan and 56% like Biden’s proposed American Jobs Plan for infrastructure, while 65% want to tax people making more than $400,000 a year to pay for it. At the same time, a new Pew poll suggests that the divisiveness of the Trump years is easing and that young people in particular are not interested in the culture wars.
Faced with the prospect of voters rejecting their economic policies, Republican leaders are undermining democracy.
Radish the wordsmith almost 3 years ago
Fox News made me do it: Capitol attack suspect pulls ‘Foxitis’ defense
Anthony Antonio, who faces five charges over role in January riot, ‘started believing what was being fed to him’, lawyer says
Anthony Antonio, who is facing five charges including violent entry, disorderly conduct and impeding law enforcement during civil disorder, fell prey to the persistent lies about the so-called “stolen election” being spread daily by Donald Trump and the rightwing network that served him, his attorney Joseph Hurley said during a video hearing on Thursday.
Antonio spent the six months before the riots mainlining Fox News while unemployed, Hurley said, likening the side effects of such a steady diet of misinformation to a mental health syndrome.
“Fox television played constantly,” he said. “He became hooked with what I call ‘Foxitis’ or ‘Foxmania’, and became interested in the political aspect and started believing what was being fed to him.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/07/fox-news-capitol-attack-january-foxitis?
danketaz Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Gee, whose butt did these guys fly out of?
Joel Stein Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Being a republicant means having no will of your own, or mind. Total subjugation to the will of your fearless leaders.