Bernie polls very high among millennials and younger, and among the “very liberal”. If those two groups go to the polls in sufficient numbers (and most liberals vote for him because BLUE NO MATTER WHO !) he’ll win. Period. Despite what the folks who cannot conceive of ever voting for anybody left of Mussolini think will happen.
So they say the Democrats were wrong to nominate an insider like Hillary instead of an outsider like Sanders in 2016. Yet the same “they” is telling us all over the place that the Democrats would be wrong to nominate an outsider like Sanders in 2020.
Does anyone else find that more than a bit curious?
Bernie buddies made Trump president. In 2016 Trump winning turned on small victories in three states. In Michigan Trump won by 10,704 votes; 48,000 Bernie primary voters voted for Trump in the general election. Trump won Pennsylvania by 44,292 votes; 117,000 Sanders primary voters went for Trump. In Wisconsin Trump won by 22,748, due to 51,300 Sanders voters choosing Trump in November. 2020 polls find over half of Bernie voters will refuse to vote for any other Democrat in the general election – fivefold more than supporters of every other candidate. Unless this changes, Sanders supporters will once again wind up putting Trump in the White House. [7 February 2019, New York Times, p.A29]
What happens when you dont play to win but instead play not to lose? …. you lose. We’ve heard all this in 2016… but y’all want us to trust yall again?? Moderate is best way huh? GTFOH!!! BERNIE ALL DAY ERR DAY!
Bernie supporters refused to vote for Hillary, and that’s how Trump got in. This we know.
Are you really saying that the anti-Bernie Democrats are just as stubborn? Will they throw out their vote out of spite because they hate Bernie like the “Bernie Bros” hated Hillary? Or are your brand of Democrat more pragmatic, and willing to vote for whoever runs as a democrat, just to make sure Trump doesn’t win again.
Because I can tell you, the die-hard Bernie supporters will once again abstain from voting if Bernie isn’t the candidate, and we will get the same result as this time. I get the feeling that the “centralist” Democrat motto is “we failed last election, so lets double down and make the same mistakes with even more conviction. That’s sure to work”
Maybe if there was less HATE coming from the Democratic “moderates”, they’d have a more convincing “party unity” line. Look at the comments on this page – it’s throwing out the “deplorables” line all over again, and we know how well that worked out.
Altho I’m a Warren supporter, Bernie should do just fine, now that he doesn’t have Super-Hilary to split the primary vote.
I expect Candidate Sanders to be doing quite well in actual delegate counts the day before Super Tuesday hits.
I’m more concerned with who his running mate would be…
The Repubs gave up on moderation and centrism, as Mitt Romney just illustrated (in isolation, at that). Dems won’t win by anxiously hanging onto centrism, either.
Bernie’s choice of running mate will tell us a lot about how the general election will pan out….
RAGs about 4 years ago
They just want a Democratic challenger that they think Trump can beat and they can ridicule.
Concretionist about 4 years ago
Bernie polls very high among millennials and younger, and among the “very liberal”. If those two groups go to the polls in sufficient numbers (and most liberals vote for him because BLUE NO MATTER WHO !) he’ll win. Period. Despite what the folks who cannot conceive of ever voting for anybody left of Mussolini think will happen.
Daeder about 4 years ago
So they say the Democrats were wrong to nominate an insider like Hillary instead of an outsider like Sanders in 2016. Yet the same “they” is telling us all over the place that the Democrats would be wrong to nominate an outsider like Sanders in 2020.
Does anyone else find that more than a bit curious?
Guy Fawkes about 4 years ago
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Patjade about 4 years ago
Missing the Russian supporters from Petrograd, who are spearheading the Internet operations.
WestNYC Premium Member about 4 years ago
I hope it’s not Stalin vs. Mussolini come November 3rd, 2020.
Zebrastripes about 4 years ago
Russia and the US puppets want him to win…A holes
William Bednar Premium Member about 4 years ago
A modern retelling of Zeno’s “Achilles and the Tortoise”?
shamest Premium Member about 4 years ago
Keep cheering. He has a great shot at the general.
Alberta Oil Premium Member about 4 years ago
Bernie is the only one who is loud and irrational enough to take on trump.. but can he go the distance given his age and health.
john_chubb about 4 years ago
All of the news media is trumpeting the “fact” that Bernie won the first two primaries.
However, when I look at the delegate count, it’s clear that Mayor Pete is leading by 1.
Doesn’t that mean that Mayor Pete is winning after the first two primaries?!
https://www.npr.org/2020/02/10/799979293/how-many-delegates-do-the-2020-presidential-democratic-candidates-have
thelordthygod666 about 4 years ago
Bernie buddies made Trump president. In 2016 Trump winning turned on small victories in three states. In Michigan Trump won by 10,704 votes; 48,000 Bernie primary voters voted for Trump in the general election. Trump won Pennsylvania by 44,292 votes; 117,000 Sanders primary voters went for Trump. In Wisconsin Trump won by 22,748, due to 51,300 Sanders voters choosing Trump in November. 2020 polls find over half of Bernie voters will refuse to vote for any other Democrat in the general election – fivefold more than supporters of every other candidate. Unless this changes, Sanders supporters will once again wind up putting Trump in the White House. [7 February 2019, New York Times, p.A29]
Walter Kocker Premium Member about 4 years ago
I am supremely confident the Democratic-ish National Committee will screw this election up – just like last time.
BubbleTape Premium Member about 4 years ago
You know what, Dems initially thought the same thing about Trump – unelectable. and we know how that worked out.
zenguyuno about 4 years ago
What Breen trying to say with the MAGA hats?
Jimathai Premium Member about 4 years ago
What happens when you dont play to win but instead play not to lose? …. you lose. We’ve heard all this in 2016… but y’all want us to trust yall again?? Moderate is best way huh? GTFOH!!! BERNIE ALL DAY ERR DAY!
Aliquid about 4 years ago
Ok Breen, you are wrong, and you know it.
Bernie supporters refused to vote for Hillary, and that’s how Trump got in. This we know.
Are you really saying that the anti-Bernie Democrats are just as stubborn? Will they throw out their vote out of spite because they hate Bernie like the “Bernie Bros” hated Hillary? Or are your brand of Democrat more pragmatic, and willing to vote for whoever runs as a democrat, just to make sure Trump doesn’t win again.
Because I can tell you, the die-hard Bernie supporters will once again abstain from voting if Bernie isn’t the candidate, and we will get the same result as this time. I get the feeling that the “centralist” Democrat motto is “we failed last election, so lets double down and make the same mistakes with even more conviction. That’s sure to work”
Strawberry Hellcat: Gair I gall, ffon I’r anghall about 4 years ago
Maybe if there was less HATE coming from the Democratic “moderates”, they’d have a more convincing “party unity” line. Look at the comments on this page – it’s throwing out the “deplorables” line all over again, and we know how well that worked out.
randolini Premium Member about 4 years ago
If Bernie wins the nomination, Trump won’t debate him. He knows Bernie will chew him up and spit him out in pieces smaller than his hands.
Spun_G about 4 years ago
Altho I’m a Warren supporter, Bernie should do just fine, now that he doesn’t have Super-Hilary to split the primary vote.
I expect Candidate Sanders to be doing quite well in actual delegate counts the day before Super Tuesday hits.
I’m more concerned with who his running mate would be…
The Repubs gave up on moderation and centrism, as Mitt Romney just illustrated (in isolation, at that). Dems won’t win by anxiously hanging onto centrism, either.
Bernie’s choice of running mate will tell us a lot about how the general election will pan out….