Michael Ramirez for May 28, 2019

When you’re born you’ll have all sorts of rights, like the right to be taken from your parents and locked in a cage. Guess you’ll just have to wait until you’re no longer part of your mother’s body.

If you can prove a fetus is actually thinking, then you might have an argument here.

This new evangelical interpretation of when life begins reminds me of the old Catholic belief in limbo that was only found by reading between the lines in the bible.

What if the embryos are frozen?

What if the ‘owner’ of the frozen embryos stops paying the storage company?

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If the storage company discards the frozen embryos, is it guilty of murder, or mass murder?

Is the owner who stopped paying guilty of being an accessory, or equally guilty?

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Maybe some of the anti-abortion fanatics can answer.

What’s Ramirez’ point ? Is he defending the rights of a transgender fetus ?

Bottom line: What other species destroys it’s own young before it is even born? Ramirez is a genius for profound statements in cartoons. You don’t know what a fetus is capable of thinking.

Ironic. As a woman, she will not have the right to make decisions about her own body or life. She’ll also earn less at her job and be discriminated against her entire life.

I dunno. What embryo is that? It’s hard to tell when they are so young. For all we know, it could be some kind of ape. http://www.terrebonneonline.com/compembryo.gif

Abortions are not being forced. The cartoon implies that every fetus is in jeopardy. It’s more likely the danger comes from declining health care and stripping away what little insurance for everyone is left.

A whole lot of science deniers making comments. Great job, Mr. Ramirez!

So she can all have her medical decisions enforced by a bunch of old guys who think they are GOD!

In order to be totally controlled by ignorant men?

You can’t argue with those of the uneducated, religious mindset that tell themselves contracting fetal cells are “heartbeats”.

How about you start with the rights of a Woman and not those of old white men.

Another forced-birth fanatic

What a great, long-winded excuse for killing human beings

The American Constitution is also very clear that life begins a birth. Voting age is not 17 years, three months. One can’t run for president at 34 and three. And a fetus is not a “person” in any sense of the word.

So we have the Bible, the Constitution, science, and common sense all saying one thing in agreement and religious nutcases saying something else.

An embryo doesn’t have rights, nor should it. But as a woman I have a right not to be forced to be an incubator against my will. I will not allow anyone to infringe on that fundamental right. If men try to make women into incubator slaves, they will be sorry.

What if that thing is going to kill the woman (mother)?

I guess Ramirez has to support his opinion with fantasy illustrations.

How about you hang around to help the poor mother raise the child so she can become a women. Pro fetus isn’t pro life.

At this state of fetal development it is at or past the first trimester and not likely to be aborted unless something drastic happens.

Is that a male fetus? Is Ramirez supporting the right for a child born male to become a woman? I’m going to interpret this as a pro-transgender rights cartoon, and pretend it isn’t about abortion.

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how about this. For every potential abortion, the fetus is removed and then implanted into their body of a anti-choice person (male and female, why not, anti-choicers don’t seem too concerned about the whole medical facts of the process, anyway) to carry for the rest the term and the raise or put for adoption. there should be enough potential volunteers protesting outside the center to cover it. Mr. Ramirez, you can be first. problems solved, you are welcome.

So the GOP can abuse her because they don’t care about you when you have an actual heart

That looks like a male! Are we seeing support for transgender rights from the right?

Logical fallacy: Assumes the consequent: What “right”? That’s what the whole discussion is about.

No matter what you or I feel is the right thing to do, that woman, carefully not shown as a human being here… is the human whose organs these laws are trying to regulate. It’s unconstitutional to say she must donate a kidney to save any other person’s life. So it’s clearly (to me) unconstitutional to say she must use her uterus as specified by law. If men were the ones who birthed children, not only would there be no such laws, but birth control would be a sacrament.

Simply put, a zygote or embryo is not a person. Let’s focusing on taking care of the people we already have before we try to force folks to produce more of them.

It isn’t about LIFE it is about OWNERSHIP OF YOUR OWN BODY is the problem here. Slavery is outlawed yet 28 states move to violate it. Sex education and access to means of keeping from getting pregnant stops any need for abortion by large margins. Along with other types of sex, can reduce it. Everywhere that the Reich Wing controls they ignore those facts in order to establish religious based dictatorships over women and girls.

A “person,” obviously, is an entity that has a “personality”: intelligence, generosity, friendliness, motivation, and so on, behaviours that distinguish one entity from another. A fetus has no such characteristics and is therefore not a person.

I see some of these posters are completely unaware of the fact that some species, when faced with severe hardships (of the kind where the mother might die) do in fact, do away with their young.

The following refers to a black bear:

If she gets pregnant, the fertilized egg will stay in a state of delayed implantation until she goes to den and sleep away the winter. At that time, if she has enough fat stores to support the pregnancy, the egg will implant on the uterus wall and a little bear cub or cubs will begin to grow. If she is not in good condition (there was a shortage of natural foods), her body will absorb the egg and the pregnancy will not resume. It’s nature’s way of keeping the bear population in check. If there’s enough food available to support more bears, then more bears will be born. So cool! Bears have their own natural birth control.

http://wiseaboutbears.org/black-bears/the-bear-family/

Bears are not the only animals that do this.

Then, consider the case of the Osprey named Iris, who has raised many chicks over the years, who was deserted by her mate for another (probably younger) osprey this year. After struggling to keep the eggs viable with only herself to provide her food, she abandoned the eggs, which were subsequently devoured by ravens. Should one blame Iris for giving up? If she was having a tough time keeping healthy with just eggs, imagine the load on her when she needed to feed hungry young for months and months.

Yes, they are “only animals” and yet normally they parent as well or better than humans.