Francis by Patrick J. Marrin for March 21, 2019

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    Sisu60  about 5 years ago

    Shouldn’t be a “guy thing” should be a “People thing”

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    ACK! Premium Member about 5 years ago

    The Church went wrong when the monks took over. Ever since, it’s been a haven for mysogenists and pederasts.

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    DanFlak  about 5 years ago

    Priests were allowed to be married, until the Middle Ages. But if your are married, your estate goes to your family. If you are unmarried your estate goes to the state (AKA the King).

    There was a mutual back-scratching going on. You could not become King of France without the blessing of the Pope and vice-versa. So they often made laws benefiting each other.

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    DanFlak  about 5 years ago

    This is one of the reasons I decided to join the Episcopal Church. I am not a feminist. I am a peoplist. It just so happens that about half of people are female.

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    DanFlak  about 5 years ago

    This is 100% my perception – I certainly have little or no fact or theology to back it up.

    I think of God the Father more as a parental of either gender in spite of the translation “father.”

    God the Son is definitely male.

    And somehow I get the feeling that the Holy Spirit is female.

    It’s my gut speaking, not my mind.

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    Ignatz Premium Member about 5 years ago

    Actually, some Catholics priests ARE married. Eastern Rite priests can be married, and Anglican priests who convert are often placed into the Catholic priesthood, and remain married.

    The celibate priesthood is not considered doctrine, it’s just a practice, and they can change it any time.

    It seems odd for the Catholic Church to have a rule in place that would keep Peter out of the priesthood.

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    Dani Rice  about 5 years ago

    1 Timothy 2:3: A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

    If bishops (head priests) are to be married, there obviously must be married clergy.

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    bxclent  Premium Member about 5 years ago

    and how’s the guy thing working out?……oh yea

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    A# 466  about 5 years ago

    Since members of the college of cardinals don’t have to be priests — or male — perhaps Francis should appoint women to that body.

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    Jogger2  about 5 years ago

    God the Father and the Holy Spirit don’t have a gender. But, it took us a while to realize that.

    The early humans couldn’t conceive of beings who were pure spirit, non-corporeal. They couldn’t conceive of beings who were transcendental, existing outside of our space and time. So, they imagined God as a powerful human male.

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    craigwestlake  about 5 years ago

    Jesus was a recognized Rabbi. One of the requirements for a rabbi is to be married. It’s wondered by many if the wedding at Cana had Jesus as the groom. Some, if not many, believe that the “beloved apostle” was Mary and that she was Jesus’ wife; if so, the natural jealousy of the other apostles would explain the church’s attitudes toward women throughout history. If the church does not accept change and reform itself I predict it will not survive this century…

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    Pedmar Premium Member about 5 years ago

    And thus God created Martin Luther.

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    robnvon Premium Member about 5 years ago

    Unfortunately, has been up until now. Perhaps there is hope since faith and charity are still hanging around for some reason.

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    oakie817  about 5 years ago

    and many say it was Mary Magdalene who was the Beloved Apostle

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