And CO2 levels (alone) are now 407 ppm and still rising. Not counting the more powerful and shorter lived GHG’s like methane (natural gas) and others.
This is the over arching problem that will exacerbate others like food growth, and resources and war which is the best at pollution and resource waste.
Been burning more than just both ends for a long time. BTW; they spoke of anthropogenic Climate change referencing the growth of the Sahara, and cold in northern Europe on a regional basis, in 1953!!
Big Tobacco quashed legitimate research and, while their internal communications eventually proved that their own experiments proved the tobacco-cancer link, they actively supported public POOPaganda denying such science.
Now we see the same thing from Big Carbon (Big Coal and Big Oil), using the exact same tactics and we are now discovering that they knew fully the damage and destruction caused by their deadly products decades ago.
For the record, my wife and I plug our two electric cars (2011 and 2016) into our solar panels (no monthly electric bills in more than ten years). Also avoid oil changes, tune-ups, rising gas prices, and almost all other regular powertrain maintenance.
But we still don’t have conclusive proof that the earth even exists! Maybe, at some point, in another few centuries, we’ll have some concrete evidence, but until then, we should all be skeptical of so-called “facts and science”! /s
This does not mean, however, that sea ice has grown almost 40 percent since 2012, nor does it mean that the overall trend in arctic sea ice is toward growth — it hasn’t and it isn’t. The issue here is that sea ice extent is quite variable from year to year, and thus looking at two discrete points is a fairly useless exercise without the full context. “We don’t expect it to monotonically decrease every year,” Hausfather told us.
This chart (using data from the National Snow and Ice Data Center) shows September sea ice extent compared against the same average used in the maps cited by Climate Depot, showing both this aforementioned variability but also an overall trend of reduced ice extent. Note that the year 2012 was no random year to select for comparison; it is actually the record lowest year in terms of Arctic sea ice extent — making anything compared to it necessarily higher:
@JOANSIMPSON They are talk about ships being able to sail north of Canada, the long searched for Northwest passage and you claim the Ice is increasing? Their is a word for people who lie…
Direct Quotes from the National Snow and Ice Data Center:.“Arctic sea ice extent for May 2018 was the second lowest in the satellite record. Above average temperatures and high sea level pressure prevailed over most of the Arctic Ocean, while some surrounding continental regions were colder than usual.”.“Arctic sea ice extent for May 2018 was 12.2 million square kilometers (4.7 million square miles). This was the second lowest May extent in the 39-year satellite record, and is 310,000 square kilometers (120,000 square miles) above May 2016, the record low for the month. Compared to May 2016, the ice cover remained slightly more extensive in the Barents and Kara Seas, within Baffin Bay, Davis Strait, and the southern Beaufort Sea, but less extensive in the Chukchi and East Greenland Seas.”.I could quote more details, but you get the point..http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
I’m not a scientist, and I don’t really understand all the CO2 levels etc. But, I have been keeping gardening records for about 30 years. My daffodils are coming up two weeks earlier than they were 30 years ago. Everything else is also on a two weeks earlier schedule. The conservatives say that global warming is someone’s political agenda. I’m pretty sure my daffodils don’t have a political agenda.
Toxic Trump and the greedy Republicans careless say, “Burn more Coal,” because the more coal they sell the more money the Koch’s give them to get reelected so they can give the Koch’s tax breaks.
They don’t care about the earth or the environment at all, just look at crooked Pruitt, who is representing the Republican party’s attitudes about air and water.
Mother Nature will enlist the Trump policy of “zero tolerance” for our transgressions against “her”, sooner rather than later at the rate we’re going. BTW she will treat humans as we treated the passenger pigeon, from millions to extinction in a brief period, solely the result of human activity, and we almost did it with the bison as well- in an effort to exterminate Native Americans dependent upon bison-based ecology.
Human activity is largely a European based ethic of conquest, theft, and destruction of resources, moving beyond the horizon for new conquest. There is no longer a horizon to cross, except the “event horizon”, where we break the system, and Earth does a “reboot”, without OUR species.
I just tried to do some gardening and I think there may be another scientific thingy I’m confused about. When the weather guy says that it is 95 but feels like 103, was he talking about temperature or my age?
Yes, the candle’s burning at both ends, but if what you’re worried about is rising sea levels, only the meltoff from Antarctica and Greenland will make an actual difference. North-polar ice is floating on top of the Arctic Ocean and wouldn’t raise the sea level a millimetre even if 100% of it melted. The ice that’s sitting on top of land, however, most decidedly would!
Adding to that is the prospect that big chunks breaking off the Antarctic ice shelf and splashing into the ocean all at once will create tsunamis. Not likely to do much damage in the Northern Hemisphere, due to attenuation during travel, but bad news for Chile, Argentina, New Zealand, and Australia.
I’m not sure the Republicans know about candles, unless they are doing weird things with them………kind of like Stormy Daniels doing weird things with a magazine?
Night-Gaunt49[Bozo is Boffo] almost 6 years ago
And CO2 levels (alone) are now 407 ppm and still rising. Not counting the more powerful and shorter lived GHG’s like methane (natural gas) and others.
This is the over arching problem that will exacerbate others like food growth, and resources and war which is the best at pollution and resource waste.
Dtroutma almost 6 years ago
Been burning more than just both ends for a long time. BTW; they spoke of anthropogenic Climate change referencing the growth of the Sahara, and cold in northern Europe on a regional basis, in 1953!!
DD Wiz Premium Member almost 6 years ago
Big Tobacco quashed legitimate research and, while their internal communications eventually proved that their own experiments proved the tobacco-cancer link, they actively supported public POOPaganda denying such science.
Now we see the same thing from Big Carbon (Big Coal and Big Oil), using the exact same tactics and we are now discovering that they knew fully the damage and destruction caused by their deadly products decades ago.
For the record, my wife and I plug our two electric cars (2011 and 2016) into our solar panels (no monthly electric bills in more than ten years). Also avoid oil changes, tune-ups, rising gas prices, and almost all other regular powertrain maintenance.
Daeder almost 6 years ago
But we still don’t have conclusive proof that the earth even exists! Maybe, at some point, in another few centuries, we’ll have some concrete evidence, but until then, we should all be skeptical of so-called “facts and science”! /s
PICTO almost 6 years ago
Science is nothing more than a collection of sucessful recipes…or…If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the biosphere.
NeedaChuckle Premium Member almost 6 years ago
C’mon, everyone of any intelligence knows it is all about rocks falling in the ocean.
Masterskrain Premium Member almost 6 years ago
I cam’t WAIT for the comments from the “Experts” on here claiming that THEY know it’s all fake because Rush told them it was.
superposition almost 6 years ago
Guess some people feel the earth should be more self-reliant and fix its own problems rather than depending on them to be responsible.
gigagrouch almost 6 years ago
Mankind is acting like bacteria in a petri dish… Earth’s a closed system & eventually humanity will choke on its own waste.
Masterskrain Premium Member almost 6 years ago
Ah yes. JSS is back with more inanities, right on schedule!
superposition almost 6 years ago
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This does not mean, however, that sea ice has grown almost 40 percent since 2012, nor does it mean that the overall trend in arctic sea ice is toward growth — it hasn’t and it isn’t. The issue here is that sea ice extent is quite variable from year to year, and thus looking at two discrete points is a fairly useless exercise without the full context. “We don’t expect it to monotonically decrease every year,” Hausfather told us.
This chart (using data from the National Snow and Ice Data Center) shows September sea ice extent compared against the same average used in the maps cited by Climate Depot, showing both this aforementioned variability but also an overall trend of reduced ice extent. Note that the year 2012 was no random year to select for comparison; it is actually the record lowest year in terms of Arctic sea ice extent — making anything compared to it necessarily higher:
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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/does-arctic-ice-doubt-reality-climate-change/
feverjr Premium Member almost 6 years ago
On the bright side, there’s surfing in Norway
Tempest almost 6 years ago
@JOANSIMPSON They are talk about ships being able to sail north of Canada, the long searched for Northwest passage and you claim the Ice is increasing? Their is a word for people who lie…
lonecat almost 6 years ago
Joan Simpson is either woefully ignorant or deliberately lying.
lonecat almost 6 years ago
Direct Quotes from the National Snow and Ice Data Center:.“Arctic sea ice extent for May 2018 was the second lowest in the satellite record. Above average temperatures and high sea level pressure prevailed over most of the Arctic Ocean, while some surrounding continental regions were colder than usual.”.“Arctic sea ice extent for May 2018 was 12.2 million square kilometers (4.7 million square miles). This was the second lowest May extent in the 39-year satellite record, and is 310,000 square kilometers (120,000 square miles) above May 2016, the record low for the month. Compared to May 2016, the ice cover remained slightly more extensive in the Barents and Kara Seas, within Baffin Bay, Davis Strait, and the southern Beaufort Sea, but less extensive in the Chukchi and East Greenland Seas.”.I could quote more details, but you get the point..http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
smartgrr almost 6 years ago
But, but, but we had a record snow storm this winter! /s
Diane Lee Premium Member almost 6 years ago
I’m not a scientist, and I don’t really understand all the CO2 levels etc. But, I have been keeping gardening records for about 30 years. My daffodils are coming up two weeks earlier than they were 30 years ago. Everything else is also on a two weeks earlier schedule. The conservatives say that global warming is someone’s political agenda. I’m pretty sure my daffodils don’t have a political agenda.
Radish the wordsmith almost 6 years ago
Toxic Trump and the greedy Republicans careless say, “Burn more Coal,” because the more coal they sell the more money the Koch’s give them to get reelected so they can give the Koch’s tax breaks.
They don’t care about the earth or the environment at all, just look at crooked Pruitt, who is representing the Republican party’s attitudes about air and water.
Satchel,Koko,LDL,Kenny almost 6 years ago
@JOANSIMPSON, Does an ‘Increase’ in Arctic and Greenland Ice Cast Doubt on the Reality of Global Warming? Snopes, check it out.
Alberta Oil Premium Member almost 6 years ago
We are still recovering from the last ice age folks. Climate over the long term changes.. continously.
Cleaning up and stop polluting our planet is a different argument that most folk can believe in. So stop with the bottled water.
Dtroutma almost 6 years ago
Mother Nature will enlist the Trump policy of “zero tolerance” for our transgressions against “her”, sooner rather than later at the rate we’re going. BTW she will treat humans as we treated the passenger pigeon, from millions to extinction in a brief period, solely the result of human activity, and we almost did it with the bison as well- in an effort to exterminate Native Americans dependent upon bison-based ecology.
Human activity is largely a European based ethic of conquest, theft, and destruction of resources, moving beyond the horizon for new conquest. There is no longer a horizon to cross, except the “event horizon”, where we break the system, and Earth does a “reboot”, without OUR species.
Diane Lee Premium Member almost 6 years ago
I just tried to do some gardening and I think there may be another scientific thingy I’m confused about. When the weather guy says that it is 95 but feels like 103, was he talking about temperature or my age?
Richard S Russell Premium Member almost 6 years ago
Yes, the candle’s burning at both ends, but if what you’re worried about is rising sea levels, only the meltoff from Antarctica and Greenland will make an actual difference. North-polar ice is floating on top of the Arctic Ocean and wouldn’t raise the sea level a millimetre even if 100% of it melted. The ice that’s sitting on top of land, however, most decidedly would!
Adding to that is the prospect that big chunks breaking off the Antarctic ice shelf and splashing into the ocean all at once will create tsunamis. Not likely to do much damage in the Northern Hemisphere, due to attenuation during travel, but bad news for Chile, Argentina, New Zealand, and Australia.
Godfreydaniel almost 6 years ago
I’m not sure the Republicans know about candles, unless they are doing weird things with them………kind of like Stormy Daniels doing weird things with a magazine?
Mr. Blawt almost 6 years ago
The Republicans have solved global warming by not talking about it and polluting more.
Sadandconfused9 almost 6 years ago
Protect your political op-ed cartoonists like Mr. Toles here…… Please don’t let anyone gag them!!!!!!!