Luann by Greg Evans and Karen Evans for October 05, 2011

My criteria for an ideal mate……a pulse

mmmm, is she saying that she can’t find anyone, or that she can’t find Quill’s equal?, tell you, women are hard to read

Oh you KNOW this is going to get heated up eventually

I’m laughing picturing clumpy purple or greeen plaid asteroid clusters.

Being a wisea** will get you nowhere, Luann. Oh yes. I forgot. That was you goal. So easily attainable, too.

its funny that Quill changed the topic so quickly :)

Gotta love those two lovebirds!

Isn’t this just normal teenage banter. All three couples were meant for each other as they all have a lot to offer each other.

When you live in a country where most of the spiders and (pretty much) all of the snakes can kill you, the Jelly fish and the octopus gang up on you in the summer time and even the cute, furry little marsupials pack poison a sense of humour is essential. ;o)

Is Quill’s hair getting a bit longer?

Yes please!

Quill’s perpetual toothy smile may be misleading Luann into misreading his intent—whatever that is (though we know he likes her)….

Yes we know how all of them feel about their “partners”. What I think would be more normal is less guarded feelings so that we can get some relationships in gear before they are all on social security.

Luann.

Your ideal mate is over THERE.

…..sitting with Rosa….,

You know the answer to that as it was extensively discussed over the past few days with you responding. Academic studies are a tiny part of growing up. The activity portrayed is far more important than other fringe activities, such as sport.

Oh, I’m anxiously awaiting the strips showing the other two couples’ dialog. Gunther is likely going catatonic. Crystal will probably end up punching Knute.

Good come back….

My ideal mate would be “Whats her credit score?”

About a third of Australians are of Irish ancestry, and many of the rest have Cockney roots. Both cultures, like most that suffer oppression and/or disparagement, consider good slanging matches to be great entertainment…and excellent foreplay.

I’m also desended entirely from the British Isles, but I’m inclined to be very literal and credulous about what is said to me, and I only say what I really mean.

That black sweater doesn’t do her justice…. I’m just sayin’

I am. All too well.

I wish there was dating 101 in high school. maybe that may be a cure for shyness.

@CateBilling Don’t forget all the flies!

This is just banter. Luann is teasing Quill, and gets his come-up-ance

Schools should teach what kids need to know. Some of this can be called academics. Not all. There are the arts, all sorts of techno-facts, practical economics, sports, etc.

@PP – there are definite psychological phases in childhood development. Adolescence is the time to develop outward, socially – things like the dating/mating dance, and in finding your vocation. I wish I had gone to a high school that was as enlightened about these things as this one apparently is.

@monkeyblues – I think Luann looks great in black. A little more the serious adult and less the pre-teen in demeanor.

Rosa and Gunther would be Venus and Vulcan.

“old maid”…seriously?? How about “forever alone”, much more current.

No way would we ever have an assignment like this! Hah!

Wellnow. Pretty much everything that Pokerfaced Parrot (bad choice of name since he’s pretty transparent) writes is a not-so-thinly disguised polemic for an extremist point of view. Soapbox is right, he litters on any comic he can.

You have actual Federal Government interference (the National Council on Family Relations – you really can’t get much more meddling than that, can you?) in schools with those 1940’s and ’50’s films, yet somehow that becomes “the generation that was last capable of taking care of itself” – – and in the next breath the big bad interfering government is intruding into everyone’s intimate lives by “controlling the developing phases of childhood”. Except that it’s not. He pulls this stuff out of his arse and then tries to spin it when it’s debunked as being made up, so he’s almost as good as clydetoad, but not quite.

I fail to see how teaching sex ed or anything else that’s been discussed is “controlling a developmental phase of life” since it’s usually taught well after that phase has passed, giving parents plenty of time to teach, indoctrinate, ignore or pass the buck on their own time.

Pokerfaced Parrot, here’s your grade: E for Epic Fail. (Or F or Fail, that works too. I’m too lackadaisical and lacking in curiosity to care which).

“And government is in charge of our dating now? You would just throw the doors open wide for Big Brother to run everything in your life, wouldn’t you?”

“You are aware of course that we have a thing called the Dept. of Education which exercises great influence in the allocation of federal funding and resources to states in accordance with its agenda even if the social life lessons curriculum is administered at the local level.”

So basically, even when you’re shown to be wrong, you’re actually right.

So let me get this straight – the government, which actually isn’t in charge of these horrible “social engineering” programs that you disapprove of in the first place – is actually to blame for their intrusion into private lives because the Dept of Education has an “agenda”? Even though that “agenda” is to promote -through federal funding, student loans. Pell grants, etc. – equal access to education and foster and improve academic excellence, the latter being the very issue that you were bitching about being neglected?

Do you eat your soup with a corkscrew?

For someone who’s fabricated all of the data you use to back up your "reasoned dissent " for the past day or so your complaint about lowered academic standards is laughable – unless you fancy yourself as its Poster Boy. You wouldn’t last three minutes with one of my teachers – you have a right to your own opinion, but when you start to make up your own facts to back that up, you lose all credibility.

Please tell me you don’t have kids.

“Just don’t blame me when the government invites itself into your bedroom”What country do you live in? That is one of the better achievements of modern society, the kicking out of government from the bedroom. I do blame you for the fact that people like you have turned the other way when the government has indeed been intruding into bedrooms while denying it. There are many things that consenting adults are forbidden in the privacy of their bedrooms in the USA. You are really good at postulating the opposite of the facts and then brushing off the reality. What is the difference between you and a troll?

@PP – you’re head is so stuffed full of right wing propaganda, one doesn’t know where to begin to rebut the ignorance, which is massive. The religious right very much wants to use government to assert itself in the bedroom, to control people’d lives, for example.

You people shout “Freedom” all the time, and yet you are terrified of real freedom and especially of empirical truth, as discovered by science. You have all these preconceived notions of how the world works (or how it should work) instead of letting the data teach you how it really works. Free thinking people let the data teach them, let reality teach them, instead of blindly regurgitating dogma of whatever kind.

Teaching kids about dating and sexuality works, to keep pregnancies down, study after study shows. It has nothing to do with what you wrote yesterday about Europe and socialism, which was laughable. Question: have you ever even been to Europe?

Luann just can’t see me… I would be the perfect example… :-D

@Dave53; You will unfortunately encounter a lot of trolls if you read these cartoons. Don’t let that discourage you from reading the strips themselves! Just note the names of them commenters who offend, and when you see them… guess what… DON’T read their comment!

That’s what I do. Works fine for me.

I once accidentally found myself reading a strip that was so offensive I was sickened. I made a mental note never to go there again – and now I can’t even remember its name – but I’m sure I would recognize it if I saw it.

“Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom.” Meaning, if you don’t want someone else to decide for you what you can or can’t see, then you have to decide for yourself.

Steve Jobs is gone.

I am also reminded of a “Latin” quote I learned from a friend when I was in high school:

“Illegitimis non carborundum!”

or, in English:

“Don’t let the bastards grind you down!”

So let’s drink a toast: "Here’s to staying unground!!

You misquoted John Curran: “The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude is at once the consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt.” The phrase has been taken and used by a great many politicians ever since.

Your interpretation, however, I find to be sort of ass-backwards. Yes, you may not like what you see on the net – or is taught in schools – but you have the right to keep your kids out of class and a right to ignore anything offensive on the net, but your exercising your option to ignore it is a benefit – it’s really not what allows that right, or freedom, to exist.

Because if you just turn a blind eye to people who are spreading willfully ignorant political propaganda, you may not be able to dissent later. Democracy isn’t guaranteed, so you turn away and ignore things that are deliberate lies, or that disgust you, at your own peril. So you can have a right to claim the decision by an elected local or district school board is a result of “intrusive government agenda” – but you don’t have the right to expect that fiction will go unchallenged, or that your motivation won’t be called to account.

I have two more for you, both quite apt – “Evil triumphs when good men do nothing” – Edmund Burke

and

“The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity.” – Harlan Ellison

“Although in your hysterical rant you disingenuously characterize my criticism of schools conducting these pointless role playing games as opposing equal access to education.”

I did nothing of the kind. I specifically stated that the latter aim of the D of E – to promote academic excellence – was the specific issue that had your panties in a wad. Or would you like to now claim I stated you were against Pell grants, too? Although at this point your making up things to bolster a fiction shouldn’t be surprising, I find it extremely ironic that someone who’s so gravely concerned about the decline of academic standards can’t seem to read with even a modicum of comprehension.

Go play the victim card elsewhere. If you’re going to promote paranoid propaganda that you can’t support, don’t then whine if someone calls you on both your positions and the fabrications you float to support them.

And if you think my response is “ugly” , think again. Let me remind you that you first started calling anyone who disagreed with you a “liberal” yesterday and you didn’t exactly become complimentary after that. So now you can add “hypocrite” to your list of failings. If you’re going to be a crusader for a lot of ideologiocal falsehoods, have at it. But if your deficiencies and inability to compose a logical argument to support your posts gets called to account, that’s on your head. You get no immunity from me.

Q: “Will there even be a Europe 20 years from now?”

A: Since you’re not even remotely familiar with Europe as it stands now, why should you care?

And I guess we can all guess that the answer to Kirk Sinclair’s“Question: have you ever even been to Europe?would be “No.”

See, I thought you would have taken the hint yesterday when I said that the first person who yells “liberal” or “conservative” is the loser. You’re “that guy”, so stop complaining now how everyone’s being so mean to you after insulting everyone’s politics. You started it, now have the guts to deal with it.

Sorry if I was unclear, but I meant sex ed is NOT brought to anyone’s school under the auspices, aegis, imprimatur or edict of the Fed. As mojitobaby said before her post got deleted, teaching it – or not – is a local or district issue.

And lot of parents probably complain about sex ed, but I bet a lot are secretly relieved that they don’t have to deal with it. Again, schools don’t teach what goes in where and why at the age kids want to know details, which I think someone said was @ 8 or so, so parents DO have a great many years to screw up their kids all by themselves before the school gets to warping them.

At this point, the count is 82, dots. If you’re saying that the “people have voted” – apparently you’re saying that they prefer this site of MANY posts.

Perhaps.

But, 35 of these posts were sent by only 4 contributors and these were highly argumentative. From my perspective this is not only undesirable and irritating, but MAY BE a flag to GoComics to trash the comments section here. I hope NOT, because – as you point out – quite a number of people like to make occasional comments about the strip itself, and that would once again, deprive them of that opportunity.

Would it be possible for several of the most prolific and argumentative posters to arrange for some other site to do battle?

I’m officially calling “troll” on you.

I was the one who listed it last , not the D of E, because I figured you’d lose track of it by the time you finished the sentence – - which, btw, is why I referred to it as “the latter”. Little did I know you couldn’t even keep up with that. If you refuse to consider yourself to be illogical, I suggest you look up “obtuse” because I’m damn sure your picture’s next to the definition. If you’re going to continue to ride your hobbyhorse after being unceremoniously unseated numerous times, go ahead and make an idiot of yourself, it’s your choice.

For the record, you are illogical since this is what you posted:

“Most American parents are too gutless and confused to take a moral stand on their children’s sexuality.”

“Since when are public schools taking over the parents’ job of teaching of life lessons to the kids? Isn’t this a case of social overstepping?”

You’re either nuts or a troll because you have two counterarguments going on. I vote for the LATTER.

And FYI, I haven’t ascribed YOUR politics to any party, pity you can’t say the same.

Dave, this isn’t a dinner party where someone’s shushing you. Post away if you have something to say and ignore what displeases you.

First you tried to claim MB said you opposing equal access to education, now you’re claiming she wrote that academic excellence is the last thing on the Dept. of Education’s mind? Give it up, you’re coming off like a real jerk. If people aren’t already convinced you’re either an idiot or a troll by now, your next post will do the trick.

@LDover: Don’t talk to me about flies… the expletive deleted are bigger then the cats at the moment and it’s not even Summer yet!

And I second what prrdh said about the teasing being foreplay.

How many decades now since anyone referred to an older unmarried woman as an “old maid”?