Just in case anyone is interested in what Kamala Harris actually said as opposed to the really pathetic attempt to stoke outrage that was presented above:
“Certain dates echo throughout history, including dates that instantly remind all who have lived through them where they were and what they were doing when our democracy came under assault. Dates that occupy not only a place on our calendars, but a place in our collective memory. December 7th, 1941, September 11th, 2001, and January 6th, 2021.”
What is the point of ranking tragedies? For one, there is a huge difference from external and internal threats. For another, one incompetent president who should have been impeached is different from another fascist-craving president who tried to subvert the entire electoral process for himself.
January 6. Wow such tragedy. A few broken windows and people strolling around inside the Capitol invited by the Capitol Police. The only person that died was actually shot by the Capitol Police.
Oh, wait a minute. What a sick joke by Hyena Girl to compare Pearl Harbor and September 11 to a nothing burger like January 6.
Outraged Republicans Call For Hilary Clinton’s Execution For Treason Over Coup Attempt And January 6th, 2017 Assault On U.S. Congress.
Washington — Former Attorney General William Barr has been appointed by the Justice Department as Special Prosecutor overseeing the investigation of the Jan. 6, 2017 riot at the Capitol Building.
Although Mr. Barr could not be reached for comment, Sean Spicer, President Trump’s press secretary, suggested that Barr and the president were “…of the same mind” about what charges the grand jury will bring against Ms. Clinton.
Last night, President Trump offered his recommendations via twitter: “CRAZY COWARDLY Hilary SENT her mob of Antifa\BML thugs to take over government and hang Biden. PENALTY FOR FOR TREASON IS DEATH!”
Actual charges are likely to include, but are not limited to, the following:
18 U.S. Code § 2383 – Rebellion or insurrection
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
18 U.S. Code § 2384 – Seditious conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
Actually no, it was worse. September 11th was an easily understood attack on our nation by outsiders who are our enemies. January 6th was an attack on our political system by citizens turned traitors. The former is easy to fight, or at least go into action against. The latter is something inherently wrong with our society (and I don’t mean the honesty of the election).
In my “discussions” with a couple of conservative colleagues, whose arguments are the same as many above, a couple of things have become clear to me. They are unwilling (unable?) to acknowledge that what America is is more than buildings. Even more than people. For me, what makes America is the IDEAS that created it. Truth, rule of law, the Constitution, peaceful transfer of power, precedent, etc. If one is to accept “American exceptionalism”, these are the things that make us “exceptional”. These were the things under attack on 1/6/21.
People come and go (historically), buildings can be replaced (and, no that does NOT mean I’m in favor of destruction of property in any form), but how do you “repair” an IDEA that’s been damaged? My right leaning friends NEVER seem to want to answer that.
Kamala Harris, what an embarrassing ignorant douchebag spewing out toxic political rhetoric to further the divide in this nation. Her speech was as low as her ratings.
9/11 was A Tragedy that posed no danger to democracy in the United States.
6 January 2021 was an outrage that showed how great the danger to democracy in the United States was, and from where the source of that danger originated.
Is Varvel really that ignorant or is he simply lying to cover for the former guy?
9/11 was an attack by foreign terrorists. America hunted down those responsible and killed or captured them. January 6 was perpetrated by domestic terrorists, many of whom have been arrested and convicted, but led by a narcissistic wannabe messiah, and although he himself has yet to be brought to account, his minions are falling one by one.
IMO Jan 6th was worse than 9/11. The insurrection was planned, paid for, and executed by elected government officials and carried out be trump’s followers and anti-government terrorist groups. (Yes, more people were killed in the 9/11 attack perpetrated by foreign terrorists… but 1/6 was planned and carried out by American citizens.)
Besides that FACT that Varvel (as usual) cannot tell the truth, the main difference between the two dates is the 9/11 was an attack by a foreign entity and Jan. 6 was an internal attack by one political party against the government of the United States. The internal attack was actually worse, even though the body count was lower.
Que Mala Eres living up to her nickname, “how bad you are”. An Extensive FBI investigation of Jan 6th determined that there was no insurrection, cases of treason, plot to overthrow the government or election and no organized coup. Out of tens of thousands of peaceful protesters there were a couple hundred hotheads egged on by BLM, AntiFa and FBI agitprops who committed minor acts of breaking and entry and trespassing. Of the few cases that have been tried those have been the only charges and those have been the only convictions.
So every one of the leftist here yammering about insurrection, coups, treason etc. are liars, propagandists and purveyors of disinformation. Que Mala Eres being chief among them.
First Harris had just left the Capital. Second who was in charge of Security? That massive group of people had been in Washington DC for over 3 days. Extra Security was supposedly 3 hours away…..actually took way more than 3 hours to get the Guard in place. DC had been a target for BLM, plus White House was during the BLM attacks. Who ever was in charge of security should be on trial along with those crazy Trump radicals. Harris nor Biden mention all these failures. They never mention an unarmed woman killed by the Secret Service. Just like Afghanistan another big talk and no action.
Well, at least in theory, 9/11 was an attack on the US by outside agencies, while 1/6 was an attack on the American democratic process itself, by Americans. You tell me which is worse.
Michael Peterson Premium Member over 2 years ago
At least on 9/11, we didn’t have half the country rooting for the airplanes.
GOGOPOWERANGERS over 2 years ago
Maybe not for you but for everyone else yes it was
tbarry718 over 2 years ago
Just in case anyone is interested in what Kamala Harris actually said as opposed to the really pathetic attempt to stoke outrage that was presented above:
“Certain dates echo throughout history, including dates that instantly remind all who have lived through them where they were and what they were doing when our democracy came under assault. Dates that occupy not only a place on our calendars, but a place in our collective memory. December 7th, 1941, September 11th, 2001, and January 6th, 2021.”
VegaAlopex over 2 years ago
What is the point of ranking tragedies? For one, there is a huge difference from external and internal threats. For another, one incompetent president who should have been impeached is different from another fascist-craving president who tried to subvert the entire electoral process for himself.
2AndFour over 2 years ago
January 6. Wow such tragedy. A few broken windows and people strolling around inside the Capitol invited by the Capitol Police. The only person that died was actually shot by the Capitol Police.
Oh, wait a minute. What a sick joke by Hyena Girl to compare Pearl Harbor and September 11 to a nothing burger like January 6.
TXWit Premium Member over 2 years ago
Hyena Girl, the best moniker I’ve seen yet that’s much better then the Cackler
1BlackLivesMatter Premium Member over 2 years ago
Commie HarASS is a real clown, so fitting to e Dementia Joe’s V.P.! Let’s go, Brandon!
Stephen Runnels Premium Member over 2 years ago
Payne, if you can’t understand or accept why what Vice President Harris said is true, you will never be considered an American.
suzalee over 2 years ago
Both were attacks on our country. Domestic terrorism is a big threat to all of us.
davidthoms1 over 2 years ago
Liar liar pants on fire! She did not say that. Not even close. She said that both were bad things, and you should know that is absolutely correct.
• Thomas over 2 years ago
if the shoe were on the other foot…
Outraged Republicans Call For Hilary Clinton’s Execution For Treason Over Coup Attempt And January 6th, 2017 Assault On U.S. Congress.
Washington — Former Attorney General William Barr has been appointed by the Justice Department as Special Prosecutor overseeing the investigation of the Jan. 6, 2017 riot at the Capitol Building.
Although Mr. Barr could not be reached for comment, Sean Spicer, President Trump’s press secretary, suggested that Barr and the president were “…of the same mind” about what charges the grand jury will bring against Ms. Clinton.
Last night, President Trump offered his recommendations via twitter: “CRAZY COWARDLY Hilary SENT her mob of Antifa\BML thugs to take over government and hang Biden. PENALTY FOR FOR TREASON IS DEATH!”
Actual charges are likely to include, but are not limited to, the following:
18 U.S. Code § 2383 – Rebellion or insurrection
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
18 U.S. Code § 2384 – Seditious conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
Durak Premium Member over 2 years ago
9/11 was an attack on the Capital by foreign enemies that hate American democracy.
1/6 was an attack on the Capital by Americans that hate American democracy.
You tell me which is better.
At least on 9/11 I knew who the enemy was.
Gen.Flashman over 2 years ago
All the while conservatives have been fighting tooth+nail to cut medical care funding to 9/11 first responders who developed cancer/copd.
sykerocker over 2 years ago
Actually no, it was worse. September 11th was an easily understood attack on our nation by outsiders who are our enemies. January 6th was an attack on our political system by citizens turned traitors. The former is easy to fight, or at least go into action against. The latter is something inherently wrong with our society (and I don’t mean the honesty of the election).
walfishj over 2 years ago
This certainly explains Paynes aversion to the truth.
1BlackLivesMatter Premium Member over 2 years ago
If you think Dementia Joe is bad, just wait until he gets the 25th (right after the mid-terms) and HealsUp Harris takes over. sigh. Let’s go, Brandon!
Havel over 2 years ago
In my “discussions” with a couple of conservative colleagues, whose arguments are the same as many above, a couple of things have become clear to me. They are unwilling (unable?) to acknowledge that what America is is more than buildings. Even more than people. For me, what makes America is the IDEAS that created it. Truth, rule of law, the Constitution, peaceful transfer of power, precedent, etc. If one is to accept “American exceptionalism”, these are the things that make us “exceptional”. These were the things under attack on 1/6/21.
People come and go (historically), buildings can be replaced (and, no that does NOT mean I’m in favor of destruction of property in any form), but how do you “repair” an IDEA that’s been damaged? My right leaning friends NEVER seem to want to answer that.
Bendarling1 over 2 years ago
Right Republican Varvel.
IndyW over 2 years ago
Kamala Harris, what an embarrassing ignorant douchebag spewing out toxic political rhetoric to further the divide in this nation. Her speech was as low as her ratings.
jack666 Premium Member over 2 years ago
9/11 was A Tragedy that posed no danger to democracy in the United States.
6 January 2021 was an outrage that showed how great the danger to democracy in the United States was, and from where the source of that danger originated.
Is Varvel really that ignorant or is he simply lying to cover for the former guy?
apfelzra Premium Member over 2 years ago
9/11 was an attack by foreign terrorists. America hunted down those responsible and killed or captured them. January 6 was perpetrated by domestic terrorists, many of whom have been arrested and convicted, but led by a narcissistic wannabe messiah, and although he himself has yet to be brought to account, his minions are falling one by one.
Patjade over 2 years ago
Varvel roots for the terrorists.
Sun over 2 years ago
Hyena Harris is not living in the reality world, she has her own fantasies.
braindead Premium Member over 2 years ago
Varvel continues to LIE about every issue.
Like all Trump Disicples.
librarylady59 over 2 years ago
IMO Jan 6th was worse than 9/11. The insurrection was planned, paid for, and executed by elected government officials and carried out be trump’s followers and anti-government terrorist groups. (Yes, more people were killed in the 9/11 attack perpetrated by foreign terrorists… but 1/6 was planned and carried out by American citizens.)
• Thomas over 2 years ago
There is no them, only us.
And then there is this:
• Joe Biden – 81,268,924
• Donald Trump – 74,216,154
RAGs over 2 years ago
Besides that FACT that Varvel (as usual) cannot tell the truth, the main difference between the two dates is the 9/11 was an attack by a foreign entity and Jan. 6 was an internal attack by one political party against the government of the United States. The internal attack was actually worse, even though the body count was lower.
Concretionist over 2 years ago
It was NOT “just as bad” … because it was worse. Because home-grown. It’s true that — so far — we haven’t seen as many deaths from January 6th.
John Deering over 2 years ago
???
Kracklin Rosie - “Tolo Dan Nan Galad” Premium Member over 2 years ago
Que Mala Eres living up to her nickname, “how bad you are”. An Extensive FBI investigation of Jan 6th determined that there was no insurrection, cases of treason, plot to overthrow the government or election and no organized coup. Out of tens of thousands of peaceful protesters there were a couple hundred hotheads egged on by BLM, AntiFa and FBI agitprops who committed minor acts of breaking and entry and trespassing. Of the few cases that have been tried those have been the only charges and those have been the only convictions.
So every one of the leftist here yammering about insurrection, coups, treason etc. are liars, propagandists and purveyors of disinformation. Que Mala Eres being chief among them.
gopher gofer over 2 years ago
⇧loony tunes…
NormN354 Premium Member over 2 years ago
Hey, if you’re going to be one, be a big one.
Searcy9320 over 2 years ago
First Harris had just left the Capital. Second who was in charge of Security? That massive group of people had been in Washington DC for over 3 days. Extra Security was supposedly 3 hours away…..actually took way more than 3 hours to get the Guard in place. DC had been a target for BLM, plus White House was during the BLM attacks. Who ever was in charge of security should be on trial along with those crazy Trump radicals. Harris nor Biden mention all these failures. They never mention an unarmed woman killed by the Secret Service. Just like Afghanistan another big talk and no action.
dpatrickryan Premium Member over 2 years ago
Well, at least in theory, 9/11 was an attack on the US by outside agencies, while 1/6 was an attack on the American democratic process itself, by Americans. You tell me which is worse.
jpkestler over 2 years ago
https://www.gocomics.com/claybennett/2021/02/24
cwg over 2 years ago
Dishonoring all the first responders and civilians who lost the lives, shame on you Ms. Vice President.
Li'l Dale over 2 years ago
Very true!
MuddyUSA Premium Member over 2 years ago
And she said that while laughing!