Here in Oregon, the “vote by mail” system has been in operation for many years. It’s efficient, effective, inexpensive, provides a way to check for a legitimate signature on the envelope around the ballot, and is very resistant to malfeasance on the part of voters OR the ones who tally the vote.
Oh, and by the way: We receive our ballots by mail, but we don’t have to mail them back: The USPO would make us buy a stamp and that’s an illegal poll tax. So we have our choice of mailing them or dropping them off at one of very many lock boxes. So there’s no way that a failure of the mail delivery system would impact most of us.
Trump says we can’t wait weeks to count all the votes. We must have a winner declared on election night. Unless he loses and then challenges the results in court. Then we can wait for as long as it takes.
Once upon a time, good ol’ Uncle Joe Stalin, who seemed to know a thing or two about elections, said something to the effect that “It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.” The Republicans, who are always so very concerned about voter fraud, have clearly learned some things from Uncle Joe.
Then there is this story: It’s apocryphal, but it seems that about the same time some Texas (of course) politician one-upped Uncle Joe. He supposedly allowed that he really didn’t care how the people voted or even who counted the votes. All he wanted to do was choose the candidates.
The “Republicans” want to run everything (except Congress) like a business. As a result, we now have the world’s most expensive healthcare system in the world, and with employer-sponsored insurance (ESI), millions have already lost their coverage.https://www.kff.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/9466-Figure-1.png
So, why not try to run the postal service like a business as well. If it’s managed as poorly as our privatized healthcare, it too could be the world’s most inefficient. The “Republicans” don’t get that government is a service, not a for-profit business. Nor do they understand that many “non-profits” are profitable.
" … What makes an organization a nonprofit has to do with purpose, ownership, and public support. Charitable nonprofits typically have these elements below.
A mission that focuses on activities that benefit society and whose goal is not primarily for profit. Called “exempt purposes,” these activities include “charitable, religious, educational, scientific, literary, testing for public safety, fostering national or international amateur sports competition, and preventing cruelty to children or animals.”
Public ownership where no person owns shares of the corporation or interests in its property.
Income that must never be distributed to any owners but recycled back into the nonprofit corporation’s public benefit mission and activities.
In contrast, a for-profit business typically seeks to generate income for its founders and employees. Profits, made by sales of products or services, measure the success of for-profit companies, and those profits are shared with owners, employees, and shareholders. …"
When you have a president of the United States that is the best that Russian money can buy, why all the surprise? We are just another satellite of Putin’s empire. Why not replace all those Confederate statues and monuments with likenesses of Marx, Lenin, and Stalin and put those three with their puppet, DJT, on Mt. Rushmore. Who wouldn’t travel miles and miles to see that? /s
It’s quite clear that the new post master general’s charge from the Orange TasteeFreez is to undermine the public confidence in the US Postal Service to further suppress the vote. If that doesn’t work, he can use it as a another reason to contest the election. He “wins” either way.
Pretty sad when the president of America admits his post office is full of fraud and can not be trusted. He (trump) brags about the greatness of “his” military.. the best money can buy.. yet runs the mail service into the ground for a lack of funds. Neither the military or the post office were ever intended to turn a profit but were a service for the people..
Many voters in Russia fell out of third floor windows before voting. After the election here some on Wall Street may be jumping out of windows without a Golden Parachute and no safety net.
On another note……..trump made the idiotic statement that Biden is insulting men everywhere for picking a woman as a running mate. No woman should vote for him after that statement!!
Here’s anOther essay that Trumpism is an “existential threat”: https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/those-of-us-who-warned-america-that-fascism-was-coming-were-called-hysterical-but-we-were-right-about-trump-all-along/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=5114
Concretionist over 3 years ago
Here in Oregon, the “vote by mail” system has been in operation for many years. It’s efficient, effective, inexpensive, provides a way to check for a legitimate signature on the envelope around the ballot, and is very resistant to malfeasance on the part of voters OR the ones who tally the vote.
Oh, and by the way: We receive our ballots by mail, but we don’t have to mail them back: The USPO would make us buy a stamp and that’s an illegal poll tax. So we have our choice of mailing them or dropping them off at one of very many lock boxes. So there’s no way that a failure of the mail delivery system would impact most of us.
Daeder over 3 years ago
No, this one looks legit: Президентские выборы в США
KennethJ.Grider over 3 years ago
Wow! Russia must have lot of electoral votes.
wyneaux over 3 years ago
Just as legit as the Belarus election…..
Ally2005 over 3 years ago
Trump says we can’t wait weeks to count all the votes. We must have a winner declared on election night. Unless he loses and then challenges the results in court. Then we can wait for as long as it takes.
Kind&Kinder over 3 years ago
Bub, you have no friends!
Alexander the Good Enough over 3 years ago
Something to think about:
Once upon a time, good ol’ Uncle Joe Stalin, who seemed to know a thing or two about elections, said something to the effect that “It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.” The Republicans, who are always so very concerned about voter fraud, have clearly learned some things from Uncle Joe.
Then there is this story: It’s apocryphal, but it seems that about the same time some Texas (of course) politician one-upped Uncle Joe. He supposedly allowed that he really didn’t care how the people voted or even who counted the votes. All he wanted to do was choose the candidates.
Old_Curmudgeon over 3 years ago
Tampering with the Mail – {two limerick-verses}
One of his ways to prevail
is to mess with the U S Mail.
With the mail thusly tampered,
the election is hampered.
You’d think this beyond the pale.
… …
Yet Barr will protect him from jail,
even on crimes of such scale.
So an autocrat
in a tinfoil hat
our democra-cee will derail.
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Old_Curmudgeon over 3 years ago
{Off-topic:}
Guilty – {4 beats/line}
The Donald is guilty up to the hilt; -
- on deceit and chicanery his doings are built,
and he’s to blame for the crazy quilt
of policies which bigly harm our nation.
{ Trump’s the causation // of much vexation
and aggravation // of a too-long duration. }
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
superposition over 3 years ago
The “Republicans” want to run everything (except Congress) like a business. As a result, we now have the world’s most expensive healthcare system in the world, and with employer-sponsored insurance (ESI), millions have already lost their coverage.https://www.kff.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/9466-Figure-1.png
So, why not try to run the postal service like a business as well. If it’s managed as poorly as our privatized healthcare, it too could be the world’s most inefficient. The “Republicans” don’t get that government is a service, not a for-profit business. Nor do they understand that many “non-profits” are profitable.
https://www.monticello.org/site/research-and-collections/postal-service
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/20/opinion/nonprofit-hospitals.html
" … What makes an organization a nonprofit has to do with purpose, ownership, and public support. Charitable nonprofits typically have these elements below.
A mission that focuses on activities that benefit society and whose goal is not primarily for profit. Called “exempt purposes,” these activities include “charitable, religious, educational, scientific, literary, testing for public safety, fostering national or international amateur sports competition, and preventing cruelty to children or animals.”
Public ownership where no person owns shares of the corporation or interests in its property.
Income that must never be distributed to any owners but recycled back into the nonprofit corporation’s public benefit mission and activities.
In contrast, a for-profit business typically seeks to generate income for its founders and employees. Profits, made by sales of products or services, measure the success of for-profit companies, and those profits are shared with owners, employees, and shareholders. …"
https://www.thebalancesmb.com/how-is-a-nonprofit-different-from-for-profit-business-2502472
Old_Curmudgeon over 3 years ago
{Off-topic:}
Remiss – {4 beats/line}
“I’m saving the day,” // The Donald will say,
“doing That and This, // – so I’m not remiss.” -
- But he’s only pretending // {the truth he is bending}.
He just golfs and tweets // and eats and cheats.
His so-called “action” // never gains traction.
. . . . . . . . . . . .
PraiseofFolly over 3 years ago
(Take-off to “From Russia With Love,” by Lionel Bart)
”From Putin With Love”
Verses:
To Donald from Vlad: “A note to you:
We worked to help you Clinton screw.
We helped to make you president,
And you are seldom hesitant
To do me favors, with love.
.
“With practiced skill my troll farms send
False rumors to public mindset bend.
The overtime spent is worth the cost
If your government is corrupt and lost,
And Russia buries you … with love.
.
“It gratifies me to hear the MAGAs cheer
Whenever you strut and smirk and sneer
At rallies where you tell the lies
Together we’ve devised,
Oh, Donald, my dearest love!
.
Chorus:
“I’ve seen countries and cultures
That Russia once owned,
And plan that they’ll be ours once more.
And the Mid East is ripe for the picking
With your sly bad decisions —
Good job! That’s what we pay you for!
.
Verse:
“And now once again an election nears,
My agents are prepared with bold new smears.
This Biden fool doesn’t stand a chance
When you and I continue to dance
Our Ballet Russe pas de deux of love.”
William Bednar Premium Member over 3 years ago
It’s from a rich friend. Campaign donation, wink, wink.
Masterskrain Premium Member over 3 years ago
“The people who vote decide NOTHING. The people who count the votes decide EVERYTHING!”
Joseph Stalin, another of Hair Furor’s role models!!Old_Curmudgeon over 3 years ago
{Off-topic:}
Wealth by Stealth – {1.20 limericks}
The pluto-crats are famed
for callousness unashamed: -
- In stockpiling wealth
by audacity and stealth,
our econo-mee they’ve gamed
and’ve left us Other folks maimed.
… Coda: – {4 beats/line}
Yet the Right-leaning public nonetheless claims
that capitalist vultures have virtuous aims, -
- even while America is crashing in flames.
. . . . . . . . . . . .
Michael G. over 3 years ago
Yeah, fat head. Rely on El Máximo Puto to have your back. Like Germany and Russia, carving up Poland. And look what happened in two years there.
Bookworm over 3 years ago
When you have a president of the United States that is the best that Russian money can buy, why all the surprise? We are just another satellite of Putin’s empire. Why not replace all those Confederate statues and monuments with likenesses of Marx, Lenin, and Stalin and put those three with their puppet, DJT, on Mt. Rushmore. Who wouldn’t travel miles and miles to see that? /s
yimhere over 3 years ago
It’s quite clear that the new post master general’s charge from the Orange TasteeFreez is to undermine the public confidence in the US Postal Service to further suppress the vote. If that doesn’t work, he can use it as a another reason to contest the election. He “wins” either way.
Alberta Oil Premium Member over 3 years ago
Pretty sad when the president of America admits his post office is full of fraud and can not be trusted. He (trump) brags about the greatness of “his” military.. the best money can buy.. yet runs the mail service into the ground for a lack of funds. Neither the military or the post office were ever intended to turn a profit but were a service for the people..
Radish the wordsmith over 3 years ago
Traitor Republicans love Russian help in our election.
They are using Putin’s playbook against Biden.
Radish the wordsmith over 3 years ago
Traitor Republicans love Russian help in our election.
They are using Putin’s playbook against Biden.
Republican sabotage of our Post Office wasn’t enough for the destroyers of the USA.
The Love of Money is . . . over 3 years ago
Many voters in Russia fell out of third floor windows before voting. After the election here some on Wall Street may be jumping out of windows without a Golden Parachute and no safety net.
Perkycat over 3 years ago
On another note……..trump made the idiotic statement that Biden is insulting men everywhere for picking a woman as a running mate. No woman should vote for him after that statement!!
Old_Curmudgeon over 3 years ago
Here’s anOther essay that Trumpism is an “existential threat”: https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/those-of-us-who-warned-america-that-fascism-was-coming-were-called-hysterical-but-we-were-right-about-trump-all-along/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=5114
Old_Curmudgeon over 3 years ago
{Off-topic:}
Dump Him; it’s Overdue
{4 beats/line}
This prez is adept in a grifter’s milieu,
but in steering a nation he steers it askew
{our nation’s interests he’ll misconstrue;
egomaniacal goals he’ll pursue}.
Let’s dump The Donald; – it’s long overdue.
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