Mexicans may no longer be the majority of U.S. unauthorized immigrants. They made up half of all unauthorized immigrants in 2016, according to the Center’s preliminary estimate, marking the first time in at least a decade that they did not account for a clear majority of this population. Their numbers (and share of the total) have been declining in recent years: There were 5.6 million Mexican unauthorized immigrants living in the U.S. in 2015 and 2016, down from 6.4 million in 2009.
Meanwhile, the number of unauthorized immigrants from nations other than Mexico has grown since 2009, from 5 million that year to 5.4 million in 2015. Non-Mexicans numbered 5.7 million in the preliminary 2016 estimate, a total that was not statistically different from 2015.
From 2009 to 2015, the number of unauthorized immigrants from Asia and Central America rose. Increases in the number from other countries have mostly offset the decline in the number from Mexico (and a relatively small decrease in the number from South America).
Fine, let’s go with what Ramirez says, Trump and Obama are both worthless here, and Schumer is less than worthless. Let’s dump them all. Forget them. Find someone else with a decent plan that we can all agree with and go with it. We have a problem, I don’t give a damn who has the solution, let’s just fix this cluster-(wish I was allowed to speak like an adult here)-mess.
There is no “trump plan”. He’s a poseur, a fraud, a liar, all driven by a deeply toxic embedded illness that catalyzes his mental instability. Until he stops demonizing immigrants, there really is no point in paying attention to him on this topic. There is no “there” there when it comes to trump.
His advisors have a couple of good ideas. But the wellspring is racist insanity, so you have to consider this as fruit of a poisoned tree. We need to increase immigration, not decrease it, and part of that increase should be merit based. We could solve this issue with some clearheaded negotiations, which would be virtually impossible for regressives who think compromise is a dirty word. (Actually, come to think of it, they don’t mind dirty words, do they?) The whole premise of immigrants as somehow especially dangerous is specious and ignorant. Immigrants work harder, longer, and often for less pay than native born Americans, and have far lower crime rates. Just more lying from pathetic insane trump.
Poor, pathetic trump is simply stewing in his own fevered and insane narcissistic fantasies. Of course the regressives go along. They are the ones with the nasty and regressive motivating ideals. Pathetic trump just catches the wave and surfs the racism.
The problem with “merit based” is that most of the countries from which people are fleeing have little – if any – educational opportunities. It would seem, at first glance, that they have little to offer the US . BUT over 90% of DACA either are, or where, in school. Approximately 25% of them have started their own businesses. Many of them are doctors, accountants, engineers, etc. There are the people we NEED; so far Trump has managed to deport at least 4 highly trained physicians. Perhaps look at the folks who are here, and use a “merit based” system to allow them to stay. I’m willing to bet we’d deport precious few. OR, maybe we could deport some of our less “merit based” native-born?
Obama’s plan was modest and was intended to be replaced by Congressional action – Republicans didn’t want to do anything about it. Trump cancelled this , tossed it to Congress with a March 5th deadline, and promised to support a bipartisan deal. Trump rejected the bipartisan deal even though it included money for a wall.
.Why does there need to be a 10 – 12 year path to citizenship? Most of these people have been in the US for decades already. And if “merit-based” was so important to Trump, why has he already deported several physicians?
.Schumer backed the bipartisan plan given to Trump that he rejected. Schumer still supports a plan for DACA, all he took back was the money for the wall. The lack of compromise was caused by Trump’s lying.
A 10 ~ 12 year path to citizenship is just fine if it is retroactive to when these folk came. Anyone.. who has managed to live in the U.S. for 10 years or more and has not violated any “real” crime.. should be granted automatic citizenship.
The whole issue would be mute if.. employers were forced to only hire those that are legally in the U.S.. Until the under the table and off the books employment is stopped.. no wall will fix the problem.
That wasn’t Trump’s plan. It was a bipartisan measure that has been offered to Trump on a number of occasions, only for him to dump on it because it wouldn’t cut legal immigration from “S***hole counties.”
Obama was trying to help children brought into this country by their parents. Trump is trying to make people’s lives a political bargaining chip. Schumer was part of a bi-partisan team, their “Dreamer” immigration plan was rejected by Trump – who is the one saying “no compromise”
The bipartisan DACA deal presented was sabotaged by a group of Republican Senators and Congressmen who couldn’t let the President make his own decisions. Republicans are not interested in life and safety, so DACA has now taken a big step backwards. The Repugs couldn’t even keep their government open, they let the military shut down, at a time they pretend to need it most. Get smart, lets make America, not Russia, great.
superposition over 6 years ago
" …
Mexicans may no longer be the majority of U.S. unauthorized immigrants. They made up half of all unauthorized immigrants in 2016, according to the Center’s preliminary estimate, marking the first time in at least a decade that they did not account for a clear majority of this population. Their numbers (and share of the total) have been declining in recent years: There were 5.6 million Mexican unauthorized immigrants living in the U.S. in 2015 and 2016, down from 6.4 million in 2009.
Meanwhile, the number of unauthorized immigrants from nations other than Mexico has grown since 2009, from 5 million that year to 5.4 million in 2015. Non-Mexicans numbered 5.7 million in the preliminary 2016 estimate, a total that was not statistically different from 2015.
From 2009 to 2015, the number of unauthorized immigrants from Asia and Central America rose. Increases in the number from other countries have mostly offset the decline in the number from Mexico (and a relatively small decrease in the number from South America).
…"
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/27/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/
Durak Premium Member over 6 years ago
Fine, let’s go with what Ramirez says, Trump and Obama are both worthless here, and Schumer is less than worthless. Let’s dump them all. Forget them. Find someone else with a decent plan that we can all agree with and go with it. We have a problem, I don’t give a damn who has the solution, let’s just fix this cluster-(wish I was allowed to speak like an adult here)-mess.
Librarylady over 6 years ago
Trump has no plan. He listens to the last one who’s had his ear. He changes every hour. How can anyone trust him.
twclix over 6 years ago
There is no “trump plan”. He’s a poseur, a fraud, a liar, all driven by a deeply toxic embedded illness that catalyzes his mental instability. Until he stops demonizing immigrants, there really is no point in paying attention to him on this topic. There is no “there” there when it comes to trump.
His advisors have a couple of good ideas. But the wellspring is racist insanity, so you have to consider this as fruit of a poisoned tree. We need to increase immigration, not decrease it, and part of that increase should be merit based. We could solve this issue with some clearheaded negotiations, which would be virtually impossible for regressives who think compromise is a dirty word. (Actually, come to think of it, they don’t mind dirty words, do they?) The whole premise of immigrants as somehow especially dangerous is specious and ignorant. Immigrants work harder, longer, and often for less pay than native born Americans, and have far lower crime rates. Just more lying from pathetic insane trump.
Poor, pathetic trump is simply stewing in his own fevered and insane narcissistic fantasies. Of course the regressives go along. They are the ones with the nasty and regressive motivating ideals. Pathetic trump just catches the wave and surfs the racism.
Dani Rice over 6 years ago
The problem with “merit based” is that most of the countries from which people are fleeing have little – if any – educational opportunities. It would seem, at first glance, that they have little to offer the US . BUT over 90% of DACA either are, or where, in school. Approximately 25% of them have started their own businesses. Many of them are doctors, accountants, engineers, etc. There are the people we NEED; so far Trump has managed to deport at least 4 highly trained physicians. Perhaps look at the folks who are here, and use a “merit based” system to allow them to stay. I’m willing to bet we’d deport precious few. OR, maybe we could deport some of our less “merit based” native-born?
Nantucket Premium Member over 6 years ago
Obama’s plan was modest and was intended to be replaced by Congressional action – Republicans didn’t want to do anything about it. Trump cancelled this , tossed it to Congress with a March 5th deadline, and promised to support a bipartisan deal. Trump rejected the bipartisan deal even though it included money for a wall.
.Why does there need to be a 10 – 12 year path to citizenship? Most of these people have been in the US for decades already. And if “merit-based” was so important to Trump, why has he already deported several physicians?
.Schumer backed the bipartisan plan given to Trump that he rejected. Schumer still supports a plan for DACA, all he took back was the money for the wall. The lack of compromise was caused by Trump’s lying.
DonnyTwoScoops over 6 years ago
They had a deal. Trump blew it up.
Alberta Oil Premium Member over 6 years ago
A 10 ~ 12 year path to citizenship is just fine if it is retroactive to when these folk came. Anyone.. who has managed to live in the U.S. for 10 years or more and has not violated any “real” crime.. should be granted automatic citizenship.
The whole issue would be mute if.. employers were forced to only hire those that are legally in the U.S.. Until the under the table and off the books employment is stopped.. no wall will fix the problem.
Guy Fawkes over 6 years ago
Trump – plan???
Can the term oxymoron apply to the biggest liar in the history of mankind?
garcalej over 6 years ago
That wasn’t Trump’s plan. It was a bipartisan measure that has been offered to Trump on a number of occasions, only for him to dump on it because it wouldn’t cut legal immigration from “S***hole counties.”
Mr. Blawt over 6 years ago
Obama was trying to help children brought into this country by their parents. Trump is trying to make people’s lives a political bargaining chip. Schumer was part of a bi-partisan team, their “Dreamer” immigration plan was rejected by Trump – who is the one saying “no compromise”
The bipartisan DACA deal presented was sabotaged by a group of Republican Senators and Congressmen who couldn’t let the President make his own decisions. Republicans are not interested in life and safety, so DACA has now taken a big step backwards. The Repugs couldn’t even keep their government open, they let the military shut down, at a time they pretend to need it most. Get smart, lets make America, not Russia, great.