Matt Davies for December 28, 2013

Yes, we find it perplexing too.

Hive minds that use avatars such as FOX to communicate. Basically, the Borg or Daleks.

“What libtards always fail to comprehend is that corporations are made up of PEOPLE who are just like you and me! Stop trying to demonize private business; they at least know how to build and run a website!”Corporations are lifeless entities that are run by people. If they’re US citizens, those people already have the 1st Amendment right to free speech. A select few individuals withing a corporation are allowed to decide who to donate money to. If each and every US citizen employed by a corporation already has free speech, doesn’t the Citizen’s United ruling give the aforementioned select few an advantage over the average employee when donating to political causes?BTW, many companies hire an outside firm to design and maintain their website.

Corporations are explicitly NOT people as far as accountability is concerned; that’s why people incorporate in the first place, so they can’t be held personally accountable for the actions of their organization.“Corporation: An ingenious device for obtaining profit without individual responsibility.” – Ambrose Bierce

FedEx, Amazon and UPS? Doesn’t their Christmas performance scream (according to your “logic”) they be shut down and banished from this continuum?

Unlikely. Maybe found guilty of a tort. Maybe pay a fine, from petty cash. Some worker bee doesn’t receive a raise or bonus. But the “deciders” no punishment to be meted out.

Repeat the fact from Motive: BY LAW, “corporations” are distinctly NOT people, and those running them as CEOs, boards, etc, are specifically SEGREGATED from any personal responsibility for the actions of the corporation! No, they are NOT like “you or me”, where violations of law (criminal), or tax obligations, or even “ethical offenses”, can be attributed and prosecuted either in courts, or the court of public opinion, and society at large.

Hmm, folks know for example who Charlie Sheen is, and he’s long been a poster boy for “bad behavior”, but who can name the “people” on the boards at G.E., Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Boeing, Exxon Mobil, Royal Dutch Shell, Citicorp, Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, or any other major corporation that HAS participated in “bad behavior” in the last ten years?

That goes without saying, masterskrain. And if those little green buggers are half as intelligent as the scifi writers would have us believe, they’ll hightail it home without further ado.

They’ll understand in short order that corporate entities have no use whatever for living creatures, and that it won’t be worth their while to hang around. The place has already been raped, pillaged and burned.

Lay and Skilling were individuals who were convicted of crimes they allegedly committed while employed by Enron. While a corporation can receive penalties and fines for the actions of its employees, you cannot send a corporation to jail.

If BP were run as badly as the US government, an oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico could blow up. If Dow Chemical were run as badly as the US government, there might be a huge chemical leak in India. (And so on and so on.)

Lonecat: if your speaking of Bohpal, that was Union Carbide, not Dow. Of course my neuropathy resulting from Agent Orange exposure is a “benefit” of several companies making a little profit in the MIC. (No harm, no foul, right??)

^HAR! “Standard Oil” = Chevron (combined several “Standards” into a bigger, more powerful monopoly to join the others in the cartel like Shell, Mobil, and Exxon), “Bell Telephone” = AT&T (given HUGE benefits by Reagan when they let them re-write the suit brought by Carter Administration to break off Western Electric!), Microsoft is doing just fine. As to the Bush’s best friend “Kenny Boy Lay”, HE ripped off the investors and the company, NOT the government.

“Corporations are made up of people. The people are in jail, and the corporations received the death penalty.”Except the government didn’t give Enron the death penalty. It went insolvent because of the actions of its employees, not as punishment by government.

^Believe they did get the first patent. Which as it was also used in the states, it killed a lot of folks here with spraying for sagebrush on massive scales in the west, including a friend and former supervisor, nasty carcinogen.

Corporations are executed all the time by dissolution

Corporations are people if the government defines them thusly. Sure, they are not flesh and blood but all their workers and owners are. .The desire to stifle others because they don’t say what you want them to say is also human, wrong but common.