Tonkin (my war), non-existent WMDs, (my son’s), now we’ve got Saudis, Netanyahu, and Wally Walrus and pals trying to start a war with Iran. Might be interesting to find out what Mossad, CIA, and Saudis are up to.
What I don’t get about this whole thing, they are claiming the ships were mined by Iran and they have a video of Iran removing a mine from a ship, at least 10 feet above the waterline, based on how they were standing on the deck.
Forgive my ignorance, I’ve only been in the military for over 20 years and working with them for over 20 more, but my concept of naval mines are that they are designed to attach and detonate below the waterline, in order to, y’know, sink a ship (holes below the waterline tend to allow water to come in and make it hard to plug the leak). What do these mines do, jump for joy when a ship comes near and give a hug high up? A naval version of a Bouncing Betty? How does that even work (for those who know the concept of how a Bouncing Betty works)?
I’m not convinced either way. I don’t trust the current administration. There is too much lying. How do you pick out the truth. It’s a sad commentary. (Sorry about using tinys pick up word.)
Let’s make a big assumption here, just for a moment; that Iran is responsible for sabotaging its own main source of revenue – oil exportation. What sort of global support would the US get from its allies? We’ve alienated every single friendly ally on the globe. As pointless as Iraq and Afghanistan were (anybody remember “Mission Accomplished”?), the US could gain global support.
The president, by his words and actions, has proven to be a complete and total phony, a liar, a person who will do anything to keep the attention on him and his bigly accomplishments. How can the words of him and Chickenhawk Bolton be trusted regarding the actions of Iran?
I believe the Japanese on ship are not convinced it was Iran… thought they saw something in the air. Shady info. Remember WMDs and here we are still in Iraq with no WMDs. GW didn’t have a reputation for lying and yet he did. I highly doubt Trump’s admin, known for lying daily… hourly, would be telling the truth about the attacks on the ships. Look at Saudi Arabia as well as others in the area.
The USELESS UN does nothing…..they are comprised mostly of Israel haters also and will not make a move to fix this! Why are we still a member? They need our money….for evil purposes, is why! Just a foot note….Saudi Arabia’s is in charge of the Human Rights committee at the UN….SAUDI ARABIA HAS THE WORST HUMAN RIGHTS RECORD IN THE WORLD…. THEY ARE NOT OUR FRIEND….
Evidence from WWII indicates that it is very difficult to sink a tanker. Yes, they did, but most took days to burn up. And that was with the old single hull design in use at the time. It is even more difficult now that the tankers have double hulls.
Dear NeoCon Hawks, pay for your last two wars before you start another. The Military still hasn’t recovered from two middle eastern wars that are still sucking trillions that you waged on credit.
A lot of good comments here! Doesn’t it get down to the question of who expects to profit from a war against Iran? Like, f’r instance maybe Saudi Arabia in their drive for regional hegemony? Or Neyanyahu, who was loudly against the multi-nation agreement with Iran? Or Bolton, who thinks wars are just dandy and the perfect answer to any international problem? I don’t think Iran wants war, I know Iraq doesn’t want to be in the middle of it nor does Lebanon or Jordan. And I do know that the US has lied its way into war more than once.
News reports said the American navy was assisting those ships, so I assume this was a Navy video. Now, I have to wonder why the Navy didn’t just go over and capture the men on that boat?
What a shame. goComics archives for Ramirez only go back to July 2006. It would be interesting to see his work the last time a Republican president started an unjust, illegal war.
From https://www.thenational.ae/uae/what-do-the-taliban-really-want-1.527418
“A predominantly Pashtun movement, the Taliban came to prominence in Afghanistan in the autumn of 1994. It is commonly believed that they first appeared in religious seminaries – mostly paid for by money from Saudi Arabia – which preached a hard line form of Sunni Islam. ..The world is divided into believers and infidels. The Taliban claim jihad is the sixth pillar of Islam, Shia are heretics and anyone who does not agree with these views may be excommunicated and killed. "
Note that Iran is Shia, not Sunni. The Saudis are the main driver for Sunni fundamentalist Muslims. Do these Trump dingbats even know the difference between Protestants and Catholics? They sure are clueless on the differences between Shia and Sunni.
let’s see is there any similarity to the Gulf of Tonkin attacks, Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction and possibly the attacks on 9/11 to the Gulf of Oman tankers?
I’m fairly certain Bolton wants this war; I am not convinced that Trump does. He’s a bully. Bluster, threaten, bluster; repeat with some other enemy (foreign or domestic).
Dtroutma almost 5 years ago
Tonkin (my war), non-existent WMDs, (my son’s), now we’ve got Saudis, Netanyahu, and Wally Walrus and pals trying to start a war with Iran. Might be interesting to find out what Mossad, CIA, and Saudis are up to.
amethyst52 Premium Member almost 5 years ago
BS! Pompeo and Bolton are just stirring up sh#% to detract from dumpty’s circle jerk.
Ontman almost 5 years ago
Trump shouldn’t let the kids play unsupervised.
NeedaChuckle Premium Member almost 5 years ago
They need to get consensus, they have all kinds of satellite pictures left over from the lead up to the Iraq debacle. They will relabel them to IRAN.
Vidrinath Premium Member almost 5 years ago
Mike do you remember your “supreme leader”’s thoughts on that subject?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/260421157201784832
Patjade almost 5 years ago
What I don’t get about this whole thing, they are claiming the ships were mined by Iran and they have a video of Iran removing a mine from a ship, at least 10 feet above the waterline, based on how they were standing on the deck.
Forgive my ignorance, I’ve only been in the military for over 20 years and working with them for over 20 more, but my concept of naval mines are that they are designed to attach and detonate below the waterline, in order to, y’know, sink a ship (holes below the waterline tend to allow water to come in and make it hard to plug the leak). What do these mines do, jump for joy when a ship comes near and give a hug high up? A naval version of a Bouncing Betty? How does that even work (for those who know the concept of how a Bouncing Betty works)?
Something doesn’t smell right here.
wirepunchr almost 5 years ago
I’m not convinced either way. I don’t trust the current administration. There is too much lying. How do you pick out the truth. It’s a sad commentary. (Sorry about using tinys pick up word.)
RAGs almost 5 years ago
Keep in mind Trump’s promoting the Fox Business video which was doctored to make it look like Pelosi was slurring her words.
Bookworm almost 5 years ago
Let’s make a big assumption here, just for a moment; that Iran is responsible for sabotaging its own main source of revenue – oil exportation. What sort of global support would the US get from its allies? We’ve alienated every single friendly ally on the globe. As pointless as Iraq and Afghanistan were (anybody remember “Mission Accomplished”?), the US could gain global support.
What do you suppose the chances of that are now?
mourdac Premium Member almost 5 years ago
The president, by his words and actions, has proven to be a complete and total phony, a liar, a person who will do anything to keep the attention on him and his bigly accomplishments. How can the words of him and Chickenhawk Bolton be trusted regarding the actions of Iran?
Librarylady almost 5 years ago
I believe the Japanese on ship are not convinced it was Iran… thought they saw something in the air. Shady info. Remember WMDs and here we are still in Iraq with no WMDs. GW didn’t have a reputation for lying and yet he did. I highly doubt Trump’s admin, known for lying daily… hourly, would be telling the truth about the attacks on the ships. Look at Saudi Arabia as well as others in the area.
Zebrastripes almost 5 years ago
The USELESS UN does nothing…..they are comprised mostly of Israel haters also and will not make a move to fix this! Why are we still a member? They need our money….for evil purposes, is why! Just a foot note….Saudi Arabia’s is in charge of the Human Rights committee at the UN….SAUDI ARABIA HAS THE WORST HUMAN RIGHTS RECORD IN THE WORLD…. THEY ARE NOT OUR FRIEND….
walfishj almost 5 years ago
Evidence from WWII indicates that it is very difficult to sink a tanker. Yes, they did, but most took days to burn up. And that was with the old single hull design in use at the time. It is even more difficult now that the tankers have double hulls.
thomaspryan almost 5 years ago
So who is ruffling the eagle’s feathers? Is it possible that Iran is not in full control of its ambitious regional proxies?
Stephen Runnels Premium Member almost 5 years ago
No doubt Mr. Ramirez is erect and ready to personally join the war with Iran. Right?
mikemck almost 5 years ago
When did Bolton grow a beard?
kballweg Premium Member almost 5 years ago
Dear NeoCon Hawks, pay for your last two wars before you start another. The Military still hasn’t recovered from two middle eastern wars that are still sucking trillions that you waged on credit.
martens almost 5 years ago
A lot of good comments here! Doesn’t it get down to the question of who expects to profit from a war against Iran? Like, f’r instance maybe Saudi Arabia in their drive for regional hegemony? Or Neyanyahu, who was loudly against the multi-nation agreement with Iran? Or Bolton, who thinks wars are just dandy and the perfect answer to any international problem? I don’t think Iran wants war, I know Iraq doesn’t want to be in the middle of it nor does Lebanon or Jordan. And I do know that the US has lied its way into war more than once.
MartinPerry1 almost 5 years ago
News reports said the American navy was assisting those ships, so I assume this was a Navy video. Now, I have to wonder why the Navy didn’t just go over and capture the men on that boat?
guyjen2004 Premium Member almost 5 years ago
If trump was president when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor people would say it was probably an inside job lol.
braindead Premium Member almost 5 years ago
Trump would NEVER lie about anything, right?
Concretionist almost 5 years ago
As per usual, Ramirez has nicely drawn a GOP lie. ’Taint Iran that started this…
Durak Premium Member almost 5 years ago
What a shame. goComics archives for Ramirez only go back to July 2006. It would be interesting to see his work the last time a Republican president started an unjust, illegal war.
martens almost 5 years ago
The Trump administration is not to be trusted. Here is another claim against Iran.
The Taliban claimed an attack on U.S. forces. Pompeo blamed Iran.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2019/06/15/taliban-claimed-an-attack-us-forces-pompeo-blamed-iran/
But why would the Taliban be allied with Iran?
From https://www.thenational.ae/uae/what-do-the-taliban-really-want-1.527418
“A predominantly Pashtun movement, the Taliban came to prominence in Afghanistan in the autumn of 1994. It is commonly believed that they first appeared in religious seminaries – mostly paid for by money from Saudi Arabia – which preached a hard line form of Sunni Islam. ..The world is divided into believers and infidels. The Taliban claim jihad is the sixth pillar of Islam, Shia are heretics and anyone who does not agree with these views may be excommunicated and killed. "
Note that Iran is Shia, not Sunni. The Saudis are the main driver for Sunni fundamentalist Muslims. Do these Trump dingbats even know the difference between Protestants and Catholics? They sure are clueless on the differences between Shia and Sunni.
Gary Williams Premium Member almost 5 years ago
let’s see is there any similarity to the Gulf of Tonkin attacks, Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction and possibly the attacks on 9/11 to the Gulf of Oman tankers?
DeepState almost 5 years ago
Bolton doesn’t have a beard….
Havel almost 5 years ago
I’m fairly certain Bolton wants this war; I am not convinced that Trump does. He’s a bully. Bluster, threaten, bluster; repeat with some other enemy (foreign or domestic).