As Mark Twain said, “There are no indecencies in Nature” just as I note that there are no indecencies that a dictatorship of the majority can wrongly do to their citizenry. Why? Because the dictators of the majority make the rules and write the history…just ask the overseers of the scholars and historians of the Papal State, the Iranian State, and the State of North Carolina.
Yes, but the Government gives special rights to a couple who are Married. Rights of Survivorship, Social Security benefits, etc.Why should the Government care if they have had a Religious Ceremony showing their commitment to one another?Take the Government out of Marriage.
I agree with @NebulousRikulau, the government should not be in a position of enforcing religious ceremonies in exchange for certain rights. In fact for the most part, the government has done nothing but make lawyers rich when marriages end.
Harley, you lie. Lawyers are now explicitly banned from writing these things up even for heterosexual non-married couples in North Carolina. In other words, big government conservatism is telling you what you can and cannot do in your private life, or as we call it, American Sharia. Glad I don’t live in North Carolina.
As a Christian pastor, I find this highly offensive. I get it: you want gay people to have civil rights. Fine. But don’t tell me as a Christian how to practice my faith. And don’t imply or even hint at a dispicable act of voyeurism such as you’ve illustrated here as a means by which any responsible Christian would ever seek to honor marriage as a sacred union of one man and one woman for life. If you wish to make this a moral issue (equal rights), tell me the basis for those rights. Then we can discuss how we apply what we apply and what the basis for them really is. My take: rights aren’t given by the government. They are inalienable, not granted. They can only be taken away. The right to marry is given by God to man and woman.
NEWSPEAK= sex-crime, anything except marriage and for the production of babiesI just read that in the appendix of newspeak in the book 1984.sex was punishable by death.
science was thought-crime,
History was to be re-written.
THis is mostly in line with tea party ideals; no sex, no science, no thinking, just bellyfeel=blind joyful obedience to the radical fascists.
It’s like the “underwear bomber”. The danger in your pants actually comes from under your hat. Too many are concerned about what’s in other people’s pants.
Then also make atheists go that route too. I don’t know of any that got married in a church. Close down Las Vegas wedding chapels. Stop weddings from being performed by anyone but an Ordained Minister. There are too many things that say your view is wrong. Marriage is a CIVIL contract. The church is trying to co-opt marraige
The church I’m a member of is not suffering over the issue, we believe it is okay for two consenting adults to enter into marriage and that it is a civil agreement we are very happy to bless in the church. If you wnt to get married, you do not need to be a member, or christian in my our. Hurch.
But if they had done that, then the church wouldn’t suffer, and he/she would have no argument. Sometimes you have to cut off your nose to spite your face.
Its just totally sad that people are so afraid of the differences in other people. People say," it says in the Bible", but do we know if the people who transcribed the Bible, transcribed it correctly. hmmmm? Think about THAT!!
And as I pointed out to you before, far more than 64% of states at one point voted that blacks were not ever allowed to marry non-blacks; and it is widely considered to be a blow for human rights and equality that this was declared un-Constitutional and these laws overturned. So, your point?
Hey Harley….gays don’t want to get married in YOUR church, that’s for sure. Nor have they ever demanded to get married in any church that doesn’t want them.
So, it sounds like you’re all for everyone being able to get married at the justice of the peace’s office regardless of gender. Good for you.
That’s already happening in off-road Mormon churches. I would have no problem if consenting adults wanted to do that…unfortunately, their idea of such unions often involves pairing minor girls with icky old pervs, which is, and should be, illegal.
NC merely joined 30 OTHER states that have placed no-same-sex-marriages clauses in their constitutions, which places it in the majority. Isn’t that what what democracy is all about?
Dtroutma almost 12 years ago
Yup, and them thar’ “Sharia dudes” be weird!
Kali39 almost 12 years ago
The good thing about that pose is that now she has a perfect target.
Jaedabee Premium Member almost 12 years ago
I’m sure they’re going to put a divorce ban on their ballot next, I’m SURE. *
leweclectic almost 12 years ago
As Mark Twain said, “There are no indecencies in Nature” just as I note that there are no indecencies that a dictatorship of the majority can wrongly do to their citizenry. Why? Because the dictators of the majority make the rules and write the history…just ask the overseers of the scholars and historians of the Papal State, the Iranian State, and the State of North Carolina.
babka Premium Member almost 12 years ago
bingo. dark ages.
walruscarver2000 almost 12 years ago
Do you think he’d know one if he saw it?
crlinder almost 12 years ago
Apparently you’re not familiar with the concept of civil rights that are not subject to the will of the majority.
Nebulous Premium Member almost 12 years ago
Yes, but the Government gives special rights to a couple who are Married. Rights of Survivorship, Social Security benefits, etc.Why should the Government care if they have had a Religious Ceremony showing their commitment to one another?Take the Government out of Marriage.
iamthelorax almost 12 years ago
I agree with @NebulousRikulau, the government should not be in a position of enforcing religious ceremonies in exchange for certain rights. In fact for the most part, the government has done nothing but make lawyers rich when marriages end.
Simon_Jester almost 12 years ago
No, you haven’t. As usual you’re making up what you post.
Simon_Jester almost 12 years ago
What if that’s Ann Coulter?
SaltWaterCroc almost 12 years ago
Just wait until those hillbillies realize they outlawed all civil unions, not just homosexual ones.
ARodney almost 12 years ago
Harley, you lie. Lawyers are now explicitly banned from writing these things up even for heterosexual non-married couples in North Carolina. In other words, big government conservatism is telling you what you can and cannot do in your private life, or as we call it, American Sharia. Glad I don’t live in North Carolina.
Heavy B almost 12 years ago
Legal: Marrying your 14 year old first cousinIllegal: Marryying someone of the same sexMaybe we should have let the south go…
pirate227 almost 12 years ago
I spent eleven years in NC, am I surprised by this?Not one bit.
DLBCyTx Premium Member almost 12 years ago
As a Christian pastor, I find this highly offensive. I get it: you want gay people to have civil rights. Fine. But don’t tell me as a Christian how to practice my faith. And don’t imply or even hint at a dispicable act of voyeurism such as you’ve illustrated here as a means by which any responsible Christian would ever seek to honor marriage as a sacred union of one man and one woman for life. If you wish to make this a moral issue (equal rights), tell me the basis for those rights. Then we can discuss how we apply what we apply and what the basis for them really is. My take: rights aren’t given by the government. They are inalienable, not granted. They can only be taken away. The right to marry is given by God to man and woman.
joe vignone almost 12 years ago
Republicants have ABSOLUTELY NO PLATFORM to run on, so they try to distract us with this divisive BS.
Dtroutma almost 12 years ago
An irrational fear of what cannot harm you is called paranoid.
Anna12 almost 12 years ago
Brilliant!!!!
pam Miner almost 12 years ago
NEWSPEAK= sex-crime, anything except marriage and for the production of babiesI just read that in the appendix of newspeak in the book 1984.sex was punishable by death.
science was thought-crime,
History was to be re-written.
THis is mostly in line with tea party ideals; no sex, no science, no thinking, just bellyfeel=blind joyful obedience to the radical fascists.
Dtroutma almost 12 years ago
It’s like the “underwear bomber”. The danger in your pants actually comes from under your hat. Too many are concerned about what’s in other people’s pants.
cjr53 almost 12 years ago
Then also make atheists go that route too. I don’t know of any that got married in a church. Close down Las Vegas wedding chapels. Stop weddings from being performed by anyone but an Ordained Minister. There are too many things that say your view is wrong. Marriage is a CIVIL contract. The church is trying to co-opt marraige
Mythreesons almost 12 years ago
The minister on the floor needs and elongated finger. Now that he is satisfied the bride is female, he should check for virginity.
lonecat almost 12 years ago
Christians don’t own marriage, and they shouldn’t determine what it means.
cjr53 almost 12 years ago
The church I’m a member of is not suffering over the issue, we believe it is okay for two consenting adults to enter into marriage and that it is a civil agreement we are very happy to bless in the church. If you wnt to get married, you do not need to be a member, or christian in my our. Hurch.
Heavy B almost 12 years ago
But if they had done that, then the church wouldn’t suffer, and he/she would have no argument. Sometimes you have to cut off your nose to spite your face.
gramstoy6 almost 12 years ago
Its just totally sad that people are so afraid of the differences in other people. People say," it says in the Bible", but do we know if the people who transcribed the Bible, transcribed it correctly. hmmmm? Think about THAT!!
chazandru almost 12 years ago
No comments about how this law also effects heterosexual couples who are unmarried and living together?
dannysixpack almost 12 years ago
@HARLEYQUINthat argument is not correct. contracts can not be made to make a homosexual couple equal in all 50 states.
AND why should they have to?
separate but equal is neither separate or equal.
cjr53 almost 12 years ago
“I can tell that’s a female without looking up her dress,…”--My goodness, you certainly are naive aren’t you.
lbatik almost 12 years ago
And as I pointed out to you before, far more than 64% of states at one point voted that blacks were not ever allowed to marry non-blacks; and it is widely considered to be a blow for human rights and equality that this was declared un-Constitutional and these laws overturned. So, your point?
fritzoid Premium Member almost 12 years ago
What the good Reverend Culpepper doesn’t realize is that the groom is named Rhonda.
kamwick almost 12 years ago
Hey Harley….gays don’t want to get married in YOUR church, that’s for sure. Nor have they ever demanded to get married in any church that doesn’t want them.
So, it sounds like you’re all for everyone being able to get married at the justice of the peace’s office regardless of gender. Good for you.
You have the the exact same “agenda” as the gays.
kamwick almost 12 years ago
That’s already happening in off-road Mormon churches. I would have no problem if consenting adults wanted to do that…unfortunately, their idea of such unions often involves pairing minor girls with icky old pervs, which is, and should be, illegal.
yohannbiimu almost 12 years ago
NC merely joined 30 OTHER states that have placed no-same-sex-marriages clauses in their constitutions, which places it in the majority. Isn’t that what what democracy is all about?