Benjamin Netanyahu: Now, remember, he's only Iran! I want you to get straight into him. No pussy footing around. Give him the old one-two, right from the get-go! No negotiating...
Yeah, well, as long as the oil’s there the nation of Israel will serve as a depot for U.S. arms and purveyor for our military policy. That it contains various sites of Biblical importance is pertinent to many Westerners. Certainly the Holocaust factor will eventually dwindle in sympathetic consideration for other countries.
What will be of interest to historians is how long Israel survives after its usefulness to all those factions ceases. I know it’s extremely offensive to mention, but I’ve often thought we should plan now as to which of our states we should evacuate the Israelis when the outpost experiment is over.
Spiritual entropy bogs down societies unless practical considerations transform them into something different. Not necessarily something better. As you get older, you realize you’ll soon be out of history and certain things follow a perverse pattern. (Read Matthew Arnold’s “The Future.”)
The basic style of Oliphant cartoons seem a mix of Dore engravings and Daumier caricatures. He’s a true artist, and would that he were appreciated more in his other artistic forms. Sometimes I wish he didn’t have to constantly portray current political jokers and would concentrate instead on society’s diverse common characters. Maybe after he retires.
The US just ran a war-game simulation, designed to assess what would happen if Israel launches a strike against the Iranain nuclear facilities on it’s own
yeah, lets just do nuthn. We’ll just have to watch Israel get nuked on CNN. That’ll be cool. Oh wait… there’s that pesky MAD thing. Israel has nukes, too. So now everybody gets nuked over there. Great Idea!
@Richard S. Russell I think that “let’s you and him fight” was originally from old Popeye comic strips (Wimpy was the referee of a boxing match, I think). I could be wrong about this, though.
@emptc12: Does Oliphant also paint and sculpt? I’ve never heard that he does but wouldn’t be surprised. (Dr. Seuss did that when he wanted to stretch his artistic wings and fly a bit.)
We don’t need Israel bugging us to get into a fight, we already have enough war mongers here! If they want to bomb bomb Iran they must do it themselves. They have more than enough weapons to do so.
We Don’t want another expensive depleting war. The mid east is trying to drain US dry!
@emptc12I’ve read (though I don’t personally own) “The Tough Coughs as He Ploughs the Dough” , and also “Dr. Seuss Goes to War” (a collection of his WW!! era political cartoons) a few times each. Recently I read for the first time “The Seuss, The Whole Seuss, and Nothing But the Seuss”, billed by its writer as “a visual biography” of Dr. Seuss. This had a lot of his magazine work and advertising work that I’d never seen anywhere else. The famous “Flit” ads turned out to be just a small part of his advertising work, which I’d never realized. Of course he turned his back on all that when he started doing his children’s books.
zionists, fundamentalists, nationalists, lobbyists, imperialists, capitalists: a rose by any other name… and we all know how much bull$#!# it takes to grow roses
The irony here is that the U.N., led by the U.S. and other Western Governments, provided the means for a Western surrogate Religious Group, the Jews, to do to the Palestinians the very same thing that we had just condemned and defeated Nazi Germany for doing.
As to your thought, “Why do Jews continue to vote for Dem Libs that work to destroy them,”: I don’t suppose that it is due to Israel suffering guilt over the irrational U.N. initiated Israel invasion of Palestine, and that they are now suffering from a sub-conscious death wish brought on by their sins of that more recent past, i.e. 1948 forward, Hmmmmm? No, there is not a chance of Israel feeling guilty; the only thing Israel has ever felt guilty about is not having forcibly taken and occupied more Palestinian territory than it already has and is continuing to do…regardless of resultant number of Palestinian people made homeless refugee’s or killed.
Israel does not determine U.S. foreign policy. That is an old anti-Semitic claim. Israel just happens to be the only democracy in the middle east with identical interests to those of the U.S., so they think and act alike. If sanctions do not work, Israel will have to protect itself from total destruction. The U.S. will make its own decisions. Iran will eventually use its nukes on us too.
a cool bumper sticker i saw: “Relax America! The Israel Defense Force will protect you!” note: there are no hijackings, and no Saudi Arabians flying airliners into supreme military headquarters buildings in Israel.
The Old Wolf about 12 years ago
Sadly, it appears that we may be willing to be – at least in certain White Houses.
spike88 about 12 years ago
Foreign policy being formulated in Israel, not in Washington.
Pray tell me who is in charge here!
cdward about 12 years ago
We are Bibi’s stooges.
emptc12 about 12 years ago
Yeah, well, as long as the oil’s there the nation of Israel will serve as a depot for U.S. arms and purveyor for our military policy. That it contains various sites of Biblical importance is pertinent to many Westerners. Certainly the Holocaust factor will eventually dwindle in sympathetic consideration for other countries.
What will be of interest to historians is how long Israel survives after its usefulness to all those factions ceases. I know it’s extremely offensive to mention, but I’ve often thought we should plan now as to which of our states we should evacuate the Israelis when the outpost experiment is over.
Spiritual entropy bogs down societies unless practical considerations transform them into something different. Not necessarily something better. As you get older, you realize you’ll soon be out of history and certain things follow a perverse pattern. (Read Matthew Arnold’s “The Future.”)
The basic style of Oliphant cartoons seem a mix of Dore engravings and Daumier caricatures. He’s a true artist, and would that he were appreciated more in his other artistic forms. Sometimes I wish he didn’t have to constantly portray current political jokers and would concentrate instead on society’s diverse common characters. Maybe after he retires.
YellerDogDemocrat about 12 years ago
As for the present state of Israel, I wonder at the continuing US support given to the religious apartness (spelled apartheid) practiced there.
Robert H. Boyer about 12 years ago
Israel is facing possible extremination and you’re taking cheap shots: I’LL RETIRE TO BEDLAM!
Simon_Jester about 12 years ago
The US just ran a war-game simulation, designed to assess what would happen if Israel launches a strike against the Iranain nuclear facilities on it’s own
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2012/0321/1224313641600.html
svenskabru2u about 12 years ago
Godfreydaniel about 12 years ago
@Richard S. Russell I think that “let’s you and him fight” was originally from old Popeye comic strips (Wimpy was the referee of a boxing match, I think). I could be wrong about this, though.
@emptc12: Does Oliphant also paint and sculpt? I’ve never heard that he does but wouldn’t be surprised. (Dr. Seuss did that when he wanted to stretch his artistic wings and fly a bit.)
Dtroutma about 12 years ago
If the U.N, and U.S. had enforced the Peel Commission recommendation, we might not still be stuck today.
nerual53 Premium Member about 12 years ago
Uncle Sam is looking a little battle weary.
pam Miner about 12 years ago
We don’t need Israel bugging us to get into a fight, we already have enough war mongers here! If they want to bomb bomb Iran they must do it themselves. They have more than enough weapons to do so.
We Don’t want another expensive depleting war. The mid east is trying to drain US dry!
jkshaw about 12 years ago
Good, Grainbelt
Godfreydaniel about 12 years ago
@emptc12I’ve read (though I don’t personally own) “The Tough Coughs as He Ploughs the Dough” , and also “Dr. Seuss Goes to War” (a collection of his WW!! era political cartoons) a few times each. Recently I read for the first time “The Seuss, The Whole Seuss, and Nothing But the Seuss”, billed by its writer as “a visual biography” of Dr. Seuss. This had a lot of his magazine work and advertising work that I’d never seen anywhere else. The famous “Flit” ads turned out to be just a small part of his advertising work, which I’d never realized. Of course he turned his back on all that when he started doing his children’s books.
el8 about 12 years ago
zionists, fundamentalists, nationalists, lobbyists, imperialists, capitalists: a rose by any other name… and we all know how much bull$#!# it takes to grow roses
leweclectic about 12 years ago
The irony here is that the U.N., led by the U.S. and other Western Governments, provided the means for a Western surrogate Religious Group, the Jews, to do to the Palestinians the very same thing that we had just condemned and defeated Nazi Germany for doing.
As to your thought, “Why do Jews continue to vote for Dem Libs that work to destroy them,”: I don’t suppose that it is due to Israel suffering guilt over the irrational U.N. initiated Israel invasion of Palestine, and that they are now suffering from a sub-conscious death wish brought on by their sins of that more recent past, i.e. 1948 forward, Hmmmmm? No, there is not a chance of Israel feeling guilty; the only thing Israel has ever felt guilty about is not having forcibly taken and occupied more Palestinian territory than it already has and is continuing to do…regardless of resultant number of Palestinian people made homeless refugee’s or killed.
commonsense123 about 12 years ago
Israel does not determine U.S. foreign policy. That is an old anti-Semitic claim. Israel just happens to be the only democracy in the middle east with identical interests to those of the U.S., so they think and act alike. If sanctions do not work, Israel will have to protect itself from total destruction. The U.S. will make its own decisions. Iran will eventually use its nukes on us too.
dfowensby about 12 years ago
a cool bumper sticker i saw: “Relax America! The Israel Defense Force will protect you!” note: there are no hijackings, and no Saudi Arabians flying airliners into supreme military headquarters buildings in Israel.