Ted Rall for November 12, 2009
Transcript:
The Taliban scratches their heads after one of their own goes berserk at one of their training camps. (Man: He killed 13 of his fellow soldiers. Why? No one knows.) His fellow warriors search for answers. (Man 2: He was nuts. And/or brain-washed by evil foreign propaganda.) (Man 3: You expect to lose guys in a foreign hellhole like new york. not here in the best, most peace loved nation ever.) As expected, Sheikh Osama rocks the nationally-televised memorial service. (Man: Some were seasoned Jihdis. Others were kids training to be suicide bombers. They were dads, sons, etc. All were innocent. All were heroes.) Finally, confused resolve carries the day. (Man: Ladies and gents: Mullah Omar!)
toasteroven over 14 years ago
Well, you’re certainly going to offend with this one, I think. Me, I just think it’s stupid. And if you wanted rhythm in that last panel, you would have written it like this: AF - GHAN - IS- TAN! That’s got a nice flow to it.
comYics over 14 years ago
Well Ted Rall is under some critisism. From my current view, it appears that this is an illustration of what could happen from another view. I hardly think its too much of a mockery of that situation in TX, sorta like , walk in his shoes, scenerio. Reading some of the comments posted, I am a little surprised I have a slightly different view. Not unpleased with it either.
toasteroven over 14 years ago
Yeah, saying that the tributes to deaths at fort hood were cheesy is one thing. Saying that those tributes are equivalent to something that terrorists would promote is another thing entirely.
Unless I’m still misreading this toon. It’s always a possibility.
comYics over 14 years ago
Looks as though Im picking up too much information from Ted Ralls toons :)).
mattro65 over 14 years ago
One point it makes is that mindless repetition of sound bites and cliches knows no borders. Revising the words and putting them in the mouths of Muslims show how trite they really are.
wmbrainiac over 14 years ago
mirror, mirror of the earth the toonist’s view reveals our dearth of self review of relative worth
brave toonist!!! keep it coming.
Ted Rall creator over 14 years ago
It’s an analogy, not relativism. Although I suppose art assumes its own meanings beyond what the cartoonist originally intended.
Anyway, yes, the shooting victims were not “all heroes,” as Obama claimed. They were victims. Of what, we don’t know yet: derangement? terrorism? politics? gun violence? all of the above?
What I’m trying to showcase here is the cheesy memorial services that follow such tragedies, not to mention Americans’ seemingly limitless ability not to get a clue about ourselves or anyone else. For Obama to express shock that this sort of thing shouldn’t happen here in the States–while his drone planes are raining death on Pakistanis–is obscene. And “they” hate us for it.
killbillvs007 over 14 years ago
Bleepy holy Bleep, the art is itself worth the price of admission, and this is a good one. But watching scott try to wriggle his internal consistency around to keep Ted in the “Critical of Obama Commentary” box he has been recently commenting from is through the looking glass.
Its like watching a six year old solve a mystery, “so the only explanation left would be aliens used laser rays to knock out the dog, and then stole the cookies off the plate on the floor taking them back to their planet…” … your arguments/thoughts are infantile.
Troll out.
Ripit over 14 years ago
Bwahahahaaa 10/10
jaredmoore Premium Member over 14 years ago
Excellent comic.
Kosher71 over 14 years ago
Meh .
darust over 14 years ago
Rall has hit it on the head. Knee-jerk reactionists won’t get it at all. This particular piece shows the propagandist view of the current ‘Merkan Tradegy’ (and yes, I know how to spell tragedy). TURN OFF THE TV. STOP BUYING NEWSPAPERS AND MAGAZINES.
aeogia over 14 years ago
Confused resolve is right.
Violence begets violence; that’s the real lesson of Ft. Hood.
When will we ever learn?
A corker, Ted.
CorosiveFrog Premium Member over 14 years ago
scotty’s prayers have been answered; somebody compares Obama to Osama.
audieholland over 14 years ago
“You expect to lose guys in a foreign hell hole like Afghanistan, not here in the best, most peace-loving nation ever.”
“USA USA USA”
“As expected, President Obama rocks the nationally televised memorial service.”
“Some were seasoned veterans. Others were green recruits and interrogation experts. They were dads, sons, etc. All were innocent. All were heroes!”
citynights over 14 years ago
Obama’s having more meetings- no danger of self righteous anger or any kind of anger from our commander in Chief - no action either just more meetings
person918 over 14 years ago
I think that what Mr. Rall fails to realize is that the US is the only country in the world with real people in it. And if you aren’t white, it’s debatable as well.
edmondd over 14 years ago
People should know when they’re conquered.
zeeshan71 over 14 years ago
I think this cartoon captures my feelings about the episode better than anything I’ve seen in print or any other media till now. People who join a military or militia are doing so for the purpose of taking part in armed combat. As far as I understand it, all forms of military training are designed to foster blind obedience and faith in the correctness of ones commanding officers’ orders to kill people, with a minimum of questioning who those people are and why they should be killed. Military/militia life is fundamentally dehumanizing for the above reason. Is it any surprise that some of these people will turn on their own kind? I think Einstein said it best in the poster I had on my wall throughout high school:
“He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice. This disgrace to civilisation should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, senseless brutality, deplorable love-of-country stance, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be a part of so base an action! It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder.”Blogged about this in progressiveislam.org
edmondd over 14 years ago
“He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would fully suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, senseless brutality, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be part of so base an action! It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder.” -Albert Einstein
TrulyBluely876 over 14 years ago
I think scott is right. Don’t hate soldiers, like we did during Viet Nam! That’s unfair and cruel.Isn’t there enough of that in this world already without the intellegencia (toon lovers) piling it on. War has been useful to humanity. BTW I thought Einstein was refering to the Nazis in that quote of his. They fought under the banner of heroicism, but it was a big and ugly lie.
Hasan just didn’t want to go to war! He thought he wouldn’t have to, given his specialities. Yes those soldiers killed were victims and innocent. Hasan is a coward. I am sure that those men who fought the Germans in WWII were doing something worthwhile. If they hadn’t, would there be any Jews left in this world now?
US soldiers are pawns at times, but never terrorists. It is an act of cowardice to kill yourself while killing your enemies. It’s a way of escaping their problems and taking revenge on others at the same time. A real man would face his enemies after the battle, stay alive and subsist on pride in your nation even as a POW.
Also, I really thought this comic was about the media, about how it’s used by politicians. Why does the media allow it? They deserve your hate, not those guys about to go to Afghanistan housed at Fort Hood. The media let’s themselves be used by terrorists as much as by any posturing president.
They refuse to take responsibility for their actions, instigating much of the violence done by arabic islamists by giving them a stage. Even murderers don’t get the chance to use the media like that, at least not until they’re sentenced.
edmondd over 14 years ago
Of course the men and women who serve are not to be blamed for what their leaders do. In fact the final authority rests on the president and the congress, so they should bear all the blame, or praise, because war may be in fact the only way to peace sometimes when there is no other recourse. But war is nonetheless a failure.
The men and women who serve deserve our admiration however, because you need balls to be there. And I have no doubt many serve out of conviction, not just self interest. How many people put their lives under risk, for even the greatest of rewards, or the threat of punishment? Neither could ever be greater than the love of life. You need conviction and a sense of duty to put your life on the line.
audieholland over 14 years ago
Hey Scott, did you know who started WWII? Who invested in the Nazi war industry?
WALL STREET
No funding, no GI JOE and no Stormtrooper Heinz in the first place.
banned over 14 years ago
War is pretty cool because it kills nazis so that means it un-kills jews. I think this cartoon proves that terrorists are good people just like us
mhenriday over 14 years ago
«Scottfreitas», since you ask, I’ll tell you what caused the gas to the ovens at Auschwitz-Birkenau (Oświęcim) to be turned off - the approach of the Soviet Red Army. Who do you think liberated the Vernichtungslager (death camps) in Poland ? Einstein knew the answers to these questions - but then, we’re not all Einsteins, are we ?…
Henri