This is approximately why I cannot imagine anybody actually voting for him. And yet i don’t NEED to imagine it, they are doing that by the millions. WT actual F??
Trump’s claims are that he has some kind of imaginary “presidential immunity” that he pulled out of his rear end — which has no basis in the Constitution — that he is above the law, something the Founders who had just overthrown a monarchy would have found abhorrent.
And if immunity is not allowed, his backup is that he had a right to do whatever he did.
He has never really put forth the argument that he did not do the things he is accused of, only that he either had a right to do them or is immune from prosecution.
Both of those propositions being absurd, he has essentially conceded on the issue of guilt.
If there’s anything the marmalade maladroit is innocent of, please don’t let him know. He will surely find a way to corrupt it, and brag about it while his followers cheer him on.
I’d love to know the dirt that Putin and his Orange Puppet have on the Republican party to make them obstruct justice and make him their pick, despite the fact that he’s a crook and a violent dictator wannabe? Seriously, what can be so bad to destroy the country the Repubs have sworn to protect?
I know. You don’t want us to feed the troll but we have to debunk some of the lies Fern has posted here.
First off, the claim that “17 percent of voters wouldn’t have voted for Biden if they knew about the laptop story” is false. The Polling Company conducted this poll, which is owned by Kellyanne Conway on behalf of the Media Research Center, a fake news conservative propaganda company that runs Newsbuster. But I don’t believe a lot of Americans would have changed their votes if they knew there was a laptop with photos of Hunter’s dingaling on it. To this date, there has been nothing released from the laptop that indicates any crimes were committed.
“The dems used censorship and lies to blind the People to the corruption of Biden.” This is just empty howling as no evidence of Joe Biden being corrupt has emerged. And what did Democrats censor? What lies did they tell?
“The dems blocked the People from witnessing vote tallying in Detroit, a notoriously corrupt city.” This is a Republican lie. A lot of people were removed for their antics and violating Covid restrictions at the time, but there were election observers from both parties throughout the process.
“Atlanta dems lied and said a water leak halted counting of the votes, it never happened.” There was a water leak but it didn’t affect the count or vote. I don’t get how Trump was demanding that people stop counting the votes yet howl about a delay in counting votes.
“Trump just wanted to find fraudulent votes in Georgia. Looking for fraud is protecting the republic.” False. There is a recording of Trump demanding the Secretary of State to find him a specific number of votes, 11,780, that did not exist. This has been widely reported since 2021 and I’m shocked someone’s still trying to lie and paint a different narrative about it.
All these easily debunked lies make me wonder if Ferny is a product of the Russian troll farm.
Even Traitor Trump’s own lawyers know that his position is ridiculous because they (unlike Trump) are sane . Yes, yes, they are dishonest as hel, yes, yes, they (like Traitor Trump) are very very stupid, indeed, but until proven otherwise, we have to assume that they don’t actually believe anything Traitor Trump says (what with being sane).
As for the trolls, until they understand that neither Alex Jones nor the Loch Ness Monster are credible sources, it’s best to let their empty minds stew in their lonely echo chambers.
A decent human being would retire from public life out of shame and embarrassment. Obviously this guy lacks the self reflection gene. He has one shot to skate on all this, and he’s asking us to give it to him. God help us if we make that mistake.
Last time I checked the Declaration of Independence it clearly states: ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL…..and please,no snarky comments about women,slaves being excluded from the document….with that said,I know all men,women of any race,still put their pants on one leg at a time….which indicates to me that no one is above the law‼️
Guess what. If the orange POS has immunity, then so does president Biden. The big difference is that Trump has committed crimes right in front of the American people. Biden hasn’t committed any period.
JDave 5 months ago
His client has a fool for a lawyer. They’re a good match.
braindead Premium Member 5 months ago
Neither Trump nor His Disciples claim that Trump didn’t commit those crimes.
They instead claim some version of ’He’s entitled to do those things.’
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Which, itself, is in keeping with their mantra: It’s OKAY If A Republican Does It.
Concretionist 5 months ago
This is approximately why I cannot imagine anybody actually voting for him. And yet i don’t NEED to imagine it, they are doing that by the millions. WT actual F??
Fiddlehead Fern rises from the dirt nap 5 months ago
The dems used censorship and lies to blind the People to the corruption of Biden.
The dems blocked the People from witnessing vote tallying in Detroit, a notoriously corrupt city.
Atlanta dems lied and said a water leak halted counting of the votes, it never happened.
Trump just wanted to find fraudulent votes in Georgia. Looking for fraud is protecting the republic, Clay.
DD Wiz Premium Member 5 months ago
Trump’s claims are that he has some kind of imaginary “presidential immunity” that he pulled out of his rear end — which has no basis in the Constitution — that he is above the law, something the Founders who had just overthrown a monarchy would have found abhorrent.
And if immunity is not allowed, his backup is that he had a right to do whatever he did.
He has never really put forth the argument that he did not do the things he is accused of, only that he either had a right to do them or is immune from prosecution.
Both of those propositions being absurd, he has essentially conceded on the issue of guilt.
knutdl 5 months ago
Innocent until ……
adunano367 5 months ago
If there’s anything the marmalade maladroit is innocent of, please don’t let him know. He will surely find a way to corrupt it, and brag about it while his followers cheer him on.
phritzg Premium Member 5 months ago
Stinky’s lawyers in every ongoing trial: “My client confesses to every charge, and he dares you to do anything about it.”
GiantShetlandPony 5 months ago
I’d love to know the dirt that Putin and his Orange Puppet have on the Republican party to make them obstruct justice and make him their pick, despite the fact that he’s a crook and a violent dictator wannabe? Seriously, what can be so bad to destroy the country the Repubs have sworn to protect?
ShadyLithand Premium Member 5 months ago
You cannot have it both ways
mourdac Premium Member 5 months ago
Judges hearing his appeal tired of the lame and inane arguments put forth by his attorneys.But money talks (if they actually get paid).
drebu1 5 months ago
Josef Goebbels famously said “Tell a lie long enough and people will believe it” You sure do.
Tonto & Redd Panda 5 months ago
Clay has a good point here.
An innocent man has no need for immunity.
BigDeal 5 months ago
Don’t feed the Trolls.
Radish the wordsmith 5 months ago
Criminal Trump keeps delaying USA justice.
Alberta Oil Premium Member 5 months ago
Sounds like a reasonable argument.. specially the innocent part.
clayjonz creator 5 months ago
I know. You don’t want us to feed the troll but we have to debunk some of the lies Fern has posted here.
First off, the claim that “17 percent of voters wouldn’t have voted for Biden if they knew about the laptop story” is false. The Polling Company conducted this poll, which is owned by Kellyanne Conway on behalf of the Media Research Center, a fake news conservative propaganda company that runs Newsbuster. But I don’t believe a lot of Americans would have changed their votes if they knew there was a laptop with photos of Hunter’s dingaling on it. To this date, there has been nothing released from the laptop that indicates any crimes were committed.
“The dems used censorship and lies to blind the People to the corruption of Biden.” This is just empty howling as no evidence of Joe Biden being corrupt has emerged. And what did Democrats censor? What lies did they tell?
“The dems blocked the People from witnessing vote tallying in Detroit, a notoriously corrupt city.” This is a Republican lie. A lot of people were removed for their antics and violating Covid restrictions at the time, but there were election observers from both parties throughout the process.
“Atlanta dems lied and said a water leak halted counting of the votes, it never happened.” There was a water leak but it didn’t affect the count or vote. I don’t get how Trump was demanding that people stop counting the votes yet howl about a delay in counting votes.
“Trump just wanted to find fraudulent votes in Georgia. Looking for fraud is protecting the republic.” False. There is a recording of Trump demanding the Secretary of State to find him a specific number of votes, 11,780, that did not exist. This has been widely reported since 2021 and I’m shocked someone’s still trying to lie and paint a different narrative about it.
All these easily debunked lies make me wonder if Ferny is a product of the Russian troll farm.
sandy 5 months ago
Thanks, Clay!
Godfreydaniel 5 months ago
Even Traitor Trump’s own lawyers know that his position is ridiculous because they (unlike Trump) are sane . Yes, yes, they are dishonest as hel, yes, yes, they (like Traitor Trump) are very very stupid, indeed, but until proven otherwise, we have to assume that they don’t actually believe anything Traitor Trump says (what with being sane).
Godfreydaniel 5 months ago
As for the trolls, until they understand that neither Alex Jones nor the Loch Ness Monster are credible sources, it’s best to let their empty minds stew in their lonely echo chambers.
Mike Baldwin creator 5 months ago
With logic like this, who needs democracy?
calliarcale 5 months ago
Yep. It’s the sort of logic you’d expect out of a middle schooler who’s just been busted for a prank.
charliekane 5 months ago
A decent human being would retire from public life out of shame and embarrassment. Obviously this guy lacks the self reflection gene. He has one shot to skate on all this, and he’s asking us to give it to him. God help us if we make that mistake.
ragsarooni Premium Member 5 months ago
Last time I checked the Declaration of Independence it clearly states: ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL…..and please,no snarky comments about women,slaves being excluded from the document….with that said,I know all men,women of any race,still put their pants on one leg at a time….which indicates to me that no one is above the law‼️
cracker65 5 months ago
Guess what. If the orange POS has immunity, then so does president Biden. The big difference is that Trump has committed crimes right in front of the American people. Biden hasn’t committed any period.
AtomicForce91 Premium Member 5 months ago
None of that is true.