The warrant: We have strong enough evidence to believe he is a crook
The list of items taken: We have strong circumstantial evidence that he is a crook.
What we won’t see until the trial (if then): The strong actual evidence that he’s a crook. In fact, I suspect it will prove to be worse than merely “crooked”. According to what I’m hearing, he was trying to sell our nation’s tippy-top-most secrets.
I was granted access to Top Secret/SCI, sensitive compartment information, for the 25 years I worked for the DOD, never brought any home for some reason. My Wife kept wanting me to bring home some nuclear secrets just to show her friends and then I could take them back but….nope. No it just is not like Hillary and her e-mails. David Brooks on PBS Newshour on Friday said 75% of the Repubnantcans are rallying behind whiney baby Donnie in his hour of need and that it is actually giving him a big boost in his run for 2024 when he could finish the job of burning the rest of it down.
He was in possession of nuclear documents. Merely possessing them is a crime. He’s a traitor. There is no good or viable reason for him to have had any of that. He is a traitor.
What MORE EVIDENCE is needed for the GOP to admit he’s a traitor to America? Anyone supporting him is as ignorant as a box of rocks and any politician who STILL supports him is committing political suicide!
The violent vengeful diehard maga-ts will be there for him! They believe every lie he spews! His acid tongue, thoughts, words, and deeds are exposed for the world to see!
Pretty open and shut case. The National Archives made several attempts to recover all documents that Trump removed to Mar-A-Lago. 15 boxes were returned but, in interviews with Trump attornies in June, they revealed that there were still numerous boxes at Mar-A-Lago and they contained sensitive documents. There was no “sensitive documents” retention area at Mar-A-Lago, documents would have been available to anyone. So there is the initial illegal taking and retention of the documents coupled with willful retention, refusing to turn them over. The DOJ thought there was a reasonable chance that the retained documents would be destroyed based on prior Trump handling of documents and sought a search warrant rather than a subpoena to immediately seize the documents.
The real question is, who was trump going to sell the secrets to? I think that the Saudis and the Russians both were being considered. Make your guess and place your bets.
Why is no one talking about Jared Kushner getting $2 billion from MBS? Are we supposed to think it’s unrelated to the theft of nuclear info?
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/04/why-the-hQll-isnt-jared-kushners-2-billion-saudi-payment-a-big-scandal/ (replace the Q with e; Gocomics’s algorithms)
If he is indicted, tried and convicted; if found guilty by several different federal and state courts; how many of his core will FINALLY REALIZE the TRUTH? That the person they have been backing because he was so good at owning the libs, so good at riling them up over their grievances, so good at saying things they were not yet (but are now) comfortable saying, is NOT A GOOD person? That he lies, he cheats, he divorces, he steals, he bankrupts, and he (potentially) has sold our nations secrets to one or more foreign nations?
What will it take to lift the veil from the eyes of the deceived?
It is rather a shame. Who else came to the aid of all those poor, put-upon, victimized, wealthy, upper-class, mostly male, homophobic, misogynistic, xenophobic white people? /s
I happened to be watching PBS and saw David Brooks make an argument, if you can call it that, against charging Trump—as I recall he said that all this is just making Trump’s supporters more engaged, that the country is in danger of falling apart, charging Trump would just push things further, that prosecutors should take the political situation into account, after all people are responsible for the consequences of what they do, and that would include the prosecutors. I was shocked, but not surprised. Brooks is one of the people who enabled Trump to get to this point. Way back when Trump was first elected, Brooks said, “Oh, let’s give him a chance, maybe he will grow into the job.” Fat chance. Brooks never spoke out forcefully against Trump. Some other conservatives have done so. Max Boot is an example. Liz Cheney (who is not a good person) also. Brooks is also responsible for the consequences of what he has done and failed to do. Responsible conservatives need to do everything in their power to make sure that Trump can never again hold office and to prove that the principle that no one is above the law is more than just a pious slogan.
I just hope all this prevents him from running for president again. I can’t even imagine all the damage that would do……..he already did enough damage!!
Tell us something the majority of us didn’t already know.
Have to love how Republicans attack law enforcement when they are legitimately doing their job and hold ‘all’ that commit crimes against America accountable. Calling them rogue agents. Oh, right, many of the GOP politicians have committed crimes against the USA.
Get out the popcorn it’s gonna get entertaining. The amount of projection and deflection, etc. is incredibly entertaining.
It’s unclear to me that Trump has ever done an honest thing or said a truthful thing in his life. And of course even now, abetted by a Greek Chorus of sycophants, he is copious gushing untruths and distracting irrelevancies.
The Meltdown of the various Agolf Twitler Kiester-Kissers, Sycophants, Hangars-on, and other Republican Vermin is a JOY to watch as they scramble to cover their respective backsides while simultaneously trying to concoct even more ludicrous explanations for the Mango Menace’s TREASON AND LAWBREAKING!
For those who want to go But Hilary I suggest you read thishttps://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2022/08/12/politifact-comparing-hillary-clintons-emails-donald-trumps-files/65400078007/Not justifying her Sloppiness. With 113 emails containing classified and three of those having classified markers, I doubt it was intentional. Still not acceptable, especially as she was a creator of classified material. As President, I would have fired her. I also would have found out why her GS advisor could not keep riens on her as that is their job. But there was not nearly the potential damage as with the volume of material Trump had on his property. They need to check if any of his other homes has been in since he took office. There no good reasons for him to have that material. This was not a mistake this was intentional. Who did he show it too is my question
Daeder over 1 year ago
{Gasp!} Shocking! /s
Patjade over 1 year ago
No sh!t, Sherlock.
Concretionist over 1 year ago
The warrant: We have strong enough evidence to believe he is a crook
The list of items taken: We have strong circumstantial evidence that he is a crook.
What we won’t see until the trial (if then): The strong actual evidence that he’s a crook. In fact, I suspect it will prove to be worse than merely “crooked”. According to what I’m hearing, he was trying to sell our nation’s tippy-top-most secrets.
Say What Now‽ Premium Member over 1 year ago
There will be something seriously wrong with the U.S. if the Rump isn’t promptly put behind bars.
Radish the wordsmith over 1 year ago
Like, duh.
scote1379 Premium Member over 1 year ago
( In Jim Nabors voice ) Surprise ! , Surprise ! , Surprise ! ,…………NOT !!!!!!
Brockie over 1 year ago
I was granted access to Top Secret/SCI, sensitive compartment information, for the 25 years I worked for the DOD, never brought any home for some reason. My Wife kept wanting me to bring home some nuclear secrets just to show her friends and then I could take them back but….nope. No it just is not like Hillary and her e-mails. David Brooks on PBS Newshour on Friday said 75% of the Repubnantcans are rallying behind whiney baby Donnie in his hour of need and that it is actually giving him a big boost in his run for 2024 when he could finish the job of burning the rest of it down.
braindead Premium Member over 1 year ago
His Disciples already KNOW he is a crook.
And a Traitor.
.
They admire him for all of it. Shows his strength. And his genius.
knutdl over 1 year ago
Letter from Nixon (who is in a jar in a UFO).
For a Just and Peaceful World over 1 year ago
Google: what did the FBI find at mar-a-lago
Spoiler alert: plenty.
PraiseofFolly over 1 year ago
There is a Crooked Man (updated, 2022)
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There was a crooked man who was crooked from his youth
His upbringing was crooked and he could not distinguish truth
He nurtured crooked businesses, was a lousy spouse
And by a crooked twist of Fate, he went to the White House.
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His crooked term in office took crooked turns, and twisted
Crooked was advice from those he was by whom assisted
The lies piled in crooked stacks, tens of thousands all in all
Smug sat he there, legs crossed crookedly, eventually to fall.
.
But crooked Fate in gambling somehow got crooked cards
And crooked outcomes were attained in fixed arranged canards
Alas for him Fate long crooked seems soon to straighten out
As by election crooks (he claims) his lies are put to rout.
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Or will through crooked wiles he once more Justice foil-it
And flush evidence of his crookedness down the swirling toilet?
America, America, how crooked you’ve become.
Through rule by crooked liars, thieves, and varied cheating scum!
KenseidenXL over 1 year ago
Some of us knew this over 40 years ago….
Display over 1 year ago
He was in possession of nuclear documents. Merely possessing them is a crime. He’s a traitor. There is no good or viable reason for him to have had any of that. He is a traitor.
The Nodding Head over 1 year ago
Open the envelope, MAGAs!
Masterskrain Premium Member over 1 year ago
Well we KNOW That!!!
Stephen Runnels Premium Member over 1 year ago
THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A TRANSPARENT ENVELOPE.
Zebrastripes over 1 year ago
What MORE EVIDENCE is needed for the GOP to admit he’s a traitor to America? Anyone supporting him is as ignorant as a box of rocks and any politician who STILL supports him is committing political suicide!
The violent vengeful diehard maga-ts will be there for him! They believe every lie he spews! His acid tongue, thoughts, words, and deeds are exposed for the world to see!
djtenltd over 1 year ago
@Concretionist- Then he can say like Richard Nixon: “I AM NOT A CROOK!” LOL!!
mourdac Premium Member over 1 year ago
Pretty open and shut case. The National Archives made several attempts to recover all documents that Trump removed to Mar-A-Lago. 15 boxes were returned but, in interviews with Trump attornies in June, they revealed that there were still numerous boxes at Mar-A-Lago and they contained sensitive documents. There was no “sensitive documents” retention area at Mar-A-Lago, documents would have been available to anyone. So there is the initial illegal taking and retention of the documents coupled with willful retention, refusing to turn them over. The DOJ thought there was a reasonable chance that the retained documents would be destroyed based on prior Trump handling of documents and sought a search warrant rather than a subpoena to immediately seize the documents.
rs0204 Premium Member over 1 year ago
The real question is, who was trump going to sell the secrets to? I think that the Saudis and the Russians both were being considered. Make your guess and place your bets.
DEACON FRED over 1 year ago
I would say that he’s a rat fink, but that’s giving rats a bad reputation!!
Pickled Pete over 1 year ago
Trump a Crook?? Naw, couldn’t be, could it!?
Cerabooge over 1 year ago
Why is no one talking about Jared Kushner getting $2 billion from MBS? Are we supposed to think it’s unrelated to the theft of nuclear info?
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/04/why-the-hQll-isnt-jared-kushners-2-billion-saudi-payment-a-big-scandal/ (replace the Q with e; Gocomics’s algorithms)
Sgt. Snorkle over 1 year ago
Trump is really nothing, He is not even a good crook!!!!!!!!!!!!
MC4802 Premium Member over 1 year ago
If he is indicted, tried and convicted; if found guilty by several different federal and state courts; how many of his core will FINALLY REALIZE the TRUTH? That the person they have been backing because he was so good at owning the libs, so good at riling them up over their grievances, so good at saying things they were not yet (but are now) comfortable saying, is NOT A GOOD person? That he lies, he cheats, he divorces, he steals, he bankrupts, and he (potentially) has sold our nations secrets to one or more foreign nations?
What will it take to lift the veil from the eyes of the deceived?
Bookworm over 1 year ago
It is rather a shame. Who else came to the aid of all those poor, put-upon, victimized, wealthy, upper-class, mostly male, homophobic, misogynistic, xenophobic white people? /s
preacherman over 1 year ago
This is something that I’ve suspected for some twenty years.
lonecat over 1 year ago
I happened to be watching PBS and saw David Brooks make an argument, if you can call it that, against charging Trump—as I recall he said that all this is just making Trump’s supporters more engaged, that the country is in danger of falling apart, charging Trump would just push things further, that prosecutors should take the political situation into account, after all people are responsible for the consequences of what they do, and that would include the prosecutors. I was shocked, but not surprised. Brooks is one of the people who enabled Trump to get to this point. Way back when Trump was first elected, Brooks said, “Oh, let’s give him a chance, maybe he will grow into the job.” Fat chance. Brooks never spoke out forcefully against Trump. Some other conservatives have done so. Max Boot is an example. Liz Cheney (who is not a good person) also. Brooks is also responsible for the consequences of what he has done and failed to do. Responsible conservatives need to do everything in their power to make sure that Trump can never again hold office and to prove that the principle that no one is above the law is more than just a pious slogan.
robertthomasson over 1 year ago
Anyone else noticed the usual troll-storm is not here? Might… maybe… just possibly… reality be setting in?
FreyjaRN Premium Member over 1 year ago
That’s a bit obvious.
Rich Douglas over 1 year ago
Not just a crook. He’s a traitor, too.
Perkycat over 1 year ago
I just hope all this prevents him from running for president again. I can’t even imagine all the damage that would do……..he already did enough damage!!
gravygraves over 1 year ago
I got a secret clearance in the USMC back in ’62 as a radio man …took no time at all
GiantShetlandPony over 1 year ago
Tell us something the majority of us didn’t already know.
Have to love how Republicans attack law enforcement when they are legitimately doing their job and hold ‘all’ that commit crimes against America accountable. Calling them rogue agents. Oh, right, many of the GOP politicians have committed crimes against the USA.
Get out the popcorn it’s gonna get entertaining. The amount of projection and deflection, etc. is incredibly entertaining.
Display over 1 year ago
To reiterate, his crotch goblins got rushed-through clearances. This isn’t stopping with just him.
AndrewSihler over 1 year ago
No kidding.
It’s unclear to me that Trump has ever done an honest thing or said a truthful thing in his life. And of course even now, abetted by a Greek Chorus of sycophants, he is copious gushing untruths and distracting irrelevancies.
Masterskrain Premium Member over 1 year ago
The Meltdown of the various Agolf Twitler Kiester-Kissers, Sycophants, Hangars-on, and other Republican Vermin is a JOY to watch as they scramble to cover their respective backsides while simultaneously trying to concoct even more ludicrous explanations for the Mango Menace’s TREASON AND LAWBREAKING!
shamest Premium Member over 1 year ago
For those who want to go But Hilary I suggest you read thishttps://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2022/08/12/politifact-comparing-hillary-clintons-emails-donald-trumps-files/65400078007/Not justifying her Sloppiness. With 113 emails containing classified and three of those having classified markers, I doubt it was intentional. Still not acceptable, especially as she was a creator of classified material. As President, I would have fired her. I also would have found out why her GS advisor could not keep riens on her as that is their job. But there was not nearly the potential damage as with the volume of material Trump had on his property. They need to check if any of his other homes has been in since he took office. There no good reasons for him to have that material. This was not a mistake this was intentional. Who did he show it too is my question