This is absolute dreck, as vile a commentary as any from Q-anon or the GOP stalwarts. You can get justice if someone is brave enough to film police-crime in action. Burning a police station is an act of desperation from those with historic reason to fear there will BE no justice.
The right figures it has all the guns and can put down an uprising of brown people and liberals. But you don’t need a gun to make a point. No justice, no peace.
Sure Ted, and the millions of people who collectively marched don’t mean squat. For someone who seems to want a massive movement of people to effect change, it seems dumb to discount a massive movement of people trying to effect change.
Bet law enforcement had the anarchists (not the peaceful BLM protesters that were in other places) caught on video bragging like the Jan 6th insurrectionists did. Note the difference, you just have to catch the suspects and charge them with the crime with sufficient evidence. They spent too much time going after unarmed protesters doing nothing instead protecting private property and businesses.
Rall is engaging in the fallacy of “first this happened then that happened, so ‘this’ caused ‘that’ ”. In fact, the world’s a lot more complicated than “just one cause”.. and some folks probably did take that precedent as being the most important. But IMO, the biggest one was that cell phone video. MY take away from Chauvin’s conviction is that even when it’s the cops you have a chance of justice if you have irrefutable evidence. And, cell phone video is a very good form of evidence — though I’m expecting a defense lawyer to talk about chain of custody and deep-fakery “real soon now”.
Rall’s provocative point, of which he may or may not be aware, is that “justice” is NOT doled out evenhandedly as it should be in our democracy, but that civil disobedience, including property damage, à la the Boston Tea Party, seems to be the ONLY message that the 1% and their benighted thugs understand. Like Paul Revere, we, the 99%, rely on our compatriots’ disgust with the notion of “Just Us” rather than “Justice.” “Justice” is what we vote for. “Justice” is what we pay our taxes for. “Justice” is our heritage and we want it to be our posterity, for our children, our grandchildren, and on and on and on, regardless of race, gender, religious beliefs, or any other self definition, all of which make up humanity. That is all we want and it is the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM for which we’ll settle. We, the 99%, are the sine qua non of America.
Talking of justice for burning down a police station, the guy who did that (who was neither local, nor part of the protest — he was a hooligan from northern Minnesota just there to cause trouble) was sentenced to prison just this past week.
Màiri about 3 years ago
I don’t think he’s allowed to wear that uniform any more.
claudio645 about 3 years ago
No, I think the message is to shoot an irrefutable video and have as many witnesses as possible.
martens about 3 years ago
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Durak Premium Member about 3 years ago
Ted, choosing to believe that the fires were set deliberately as a cry for justice.
Sorry bud. That was raw anger, being released to relieve the pressure of repressed emotion.
We need to honor the court system and jury for making a clear, just decision. Not one based on anger.
tims145 about 3 years ago
Me too, I’m not quite getting the point. I’ll wait until someone smarter than me explains.
john.horvath about 3 years ago
You are absolutely right, Ted. It’s a shame that these extreme measures were needed.
walkingmancomics about 3 years ago
This is absolute dreck, as vile a commentary as any from Q-anon or the GOP stalwarts. You can get justice if someone is brave enough to film police-crime in action. Burning a police station is an act of desperation from those with historic reason to fear there will BE no justice.
Ammo is on a break Premium Member about 3 years ago
The a anarchists who burn down Government Buildings are no different than Patriots who threw Tea into Boston Harbor./s I see you Ted, I see You.
GiantShetlandPony about 3 years ago
The police station was burned down by a white supremacist and his friends. He was just found guilty recently.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/23/texas-boogaloo-boi-minneapolis-police-building-george-floyd
Radish the wordsmith about 3 years ago
The people who burned the police station in Seattle were arrested.
ChristopherBurns about 3 years ago
The right figures it has all the guns and can put down an uprising of brown people and liberals. But you don’t need a gun to make a point. No justice, no peace.
XtopherSD about 3 years ago
Sure Ted, and the millions of people who collectively marched don’t mean squat. For someone who seems to want a massive movement of people to effect change, it seems dumb to discount a massive movement of people trying to effect change.
Roe Croes Premium Member about 3 years ago
This will not be received well. What’s the difference between this and Trump inciting a riot?
ferddo about 3 years ago
Although burning down a police station is not justifiable violence, it also does not mean that the officer should not have been charged or tried.
ndblackirish97 about 3 years ago
Bet law enforcement had the anarchists (not the peaceful BLM protesters that were in other places) caught on video bragging like the Jan 6th insurrectionists did. Note the difference, you just have to catch the suspects and charge them with the crime with sufficient evidence. They spent too much time going after unarmed protesters doing nothing instead protecting private property and businesses.
Concretionist about 3 years ago
Rall is engaging in the fallacy of “first this happened then that happened, so ‘this’ caused ‘that’ ”. In fact, the world’s a lot more complicated than “just one cause”.. and some folks probably did take that precedent as being the most important. But IMO, the biggest one was that cell phone video. MY take away from Chauvin’s conviction is that even when it’s the cops you have a chance of justice if you have irrefutable evidence. And, cell phone video is a very good form of evidence — though I’m expecting a defense lawyer to talk about chain of custody and deep-fakery “real soon now”.
countoftowergrove about 3 years ago
As usual, Theodore’s ahead of the curve!
grumpypophobart about 3 years ago
Well bugger me, if that’s what it takes, then that’s what it takes. Since before the Civil War.
Serial Pedant about 3 years ago
The message actually was “If you can’t get justice from a police station what purpose does it serve?”
cocavan11 about 3 years ago
Rall’s provocative point, of which he may or may not be aware, is that “justice” is NOT doled out evenhandedly as it should be in our democracy, but that civil disobedience, including property damage, à la the Boston Tea Party, seems to be the ONLY message that the 1% and their benighted thugs understand. Like Paul Revere, we, the 99%, rely on our compatriots’ disgust with the notion of “Just Us” rather than “Justice.” “Justice” is what we vote for. “Justice” is what we pay our taxes for. “Justice” is our heritage and we want it to be our posterity, for our children, our grandchildren, and on and on and on, regardless of race, gender, religious beliefs, or any other self definition, all of which make up humanity. That is all we want and it is the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM for which we’ll settle. We, the 99%, are the sine qua non of America.
rossevrymn about 3 years ago
not really
calliarcale about 3 years ago
Talking of justice for burning down a police station, the guy who did that (who was neither local, nor part of the protest — he was a hooligan from northern Minnesota just there to cause trouble) was sentenced to prison just this past week.