‘Catastrophically messy’: A constitutional scholar explains the subtle way Trump could circumvent the 2020 election if he loseshttps://www.alternet.org/2019/03/catastrophically-messy-a-constitutional-scholar-explains-the-subtle-way-trump-could-circumvent-the-2020-election-if-he-loses/
Interesting that when Trump had the Washington Capitals (Stanley Cup winning hockey team) to the White House, he singled out Alexander Ovechkin, the Russian captain and friend of Putin, as a very special person. That should make points with the boss.
Mueller sent copies of the report with each of the indictments sent out to AG’s across the country. It would be a shame if one of those copies should escape into the public.
Mueller has experience taking down crime families.
When William Barr’s little “audition” note surfaced, the alarm bells started ringing. If you have the fortitude to wade through the "trash’ of his "memo to Rosenstein and Engel, you will find that “little Billy B” believes that the power of the American president ‘knows’ no limits and that, if the President “does” something, the act of he or she doing “it” confers an ipso facto “legality” to that action.
This ‘parrots’ Tricky Dick Nixon’s assertion of the same power.
Barr’s opinion evidently was and is that the President’s power is unlimited and unchecked and that the President CANNOT be accused of obstruction because ‘obstruction’ implies “wrongdoing” which is antithetical to ANY action of the Presidency! That was his stance in the job application memo and, not all that surprisingly, was ALSO his stance in the document “summarizing” the Mueller Report.
Yes, it is too accurate, especially with the powers that can be abused by a president who has declared a state of emergency.
Obstruction of Justice is such a very bad charge against a president that it has been the one reported to be most worrying Trump’s legal team. Trump DID make public statements that appear to fit the definition, but there is a legal question whether a person can be charged with Obstruction of Justice without it being connected to charges of a crime by that individual himself rather than just by the person influenced. (Yet when once thinks of times when people were charged w aiding a criminal by obstructing, there is cause to wonder…)
Meanwhile, there DEFINITELY were successful prosecutions of Attempted Collusion (not the exact term, but you know what I mean) by multiple members of the campaign, which itself is a crime, so that raises a different question: at what point do illegal actions of employees have to also infer responsibility of the boss? In relation to this also think of mob and drug cartel bosses, and what they could so if a precedent is set…
So, there are questions if Trump can be held at all responsible for the actions of multiple high level campaign employees with whom he had direct meetings, AND there is the question (IF bosses get off the hook) of whether a person can be charged if a criminal charge is not being held against them.
Depending on how Trump’s legal team thinks those two questions will resolve in a court setting, he might ask Barr to actually release the Mueller report in full, or with retracted areas (retractions which are now known to NOT be needed under law according to several people who wrote the guidelines), or to hold it back. If either of the last two happen the public WH position will be that it was all Barr’s call, of course, the same as so often happens with unpopular actions by Trump appointees.
The 4 pg Barr report turns out to be based (?) on 300pg text and 400 pg appendices
Charliegirl Premium Member about 5 years ago
BARF!
Dtroutma about 5 years ago
He goes to Bonespurs’ gold commode for his holy water??
Meh~tdology, fka Pepelaputr about 5 years ago
‘Catastrophically messy’: A constitutional scholar explains the subtle way Trump could circumvent the 2020 election if he loseshttps://www.alternet.org/2019/03/catastrophically-messy-a-constitutional-scholar-explains-the-subtle-way-trump-could-circumvent-the-2020-election-if-he-loses/
Gypsy8 about 5 years ago
Interesting that when Trump had the Washington Capitals (Stanley Cup winning hockey team) to the White House, he singled out Alexander Ovechkin, the Russian captain and friend of Putin, as a very special person. That should make points with the boss.
Ontman about 5 years ago
Archbishop of ‘Can I Bury’ the facts.
Masterskrain Premium Member about 5 years ago
It’s frightening because it’s TRUE! Since fat-ass NOW thinks that he’s invulnerable, the excrement is about to REALLY enter the HVAC unit!
Huckleberry Hiroshima about 5 years ago
He is a royal pain.
jimchronister2016 about 5 years ago
And now we have two psychos to watch!
Darsan54 Premium Member about 5 years ago
We knew Barr supported law and order, but apparently we didn’t know who or what was the source.
Alberta Oil Premium Member about 5 years ago
Yup.. be interesting for historians to see if trump was the sole reason for the demise of the US.. or, if the trend was there long before.
Radish the wordsmith about 5 years ago
Mueller sent copies of the report with each of the indictments sent out to AG’s across the country. It would be a shame if one of those copies should escape into the public.
Mueller has experience taking down crime families.
ForALaugh Premium Member about 5 years ago
Trump’s shill speaks. A leaked copy of Mueller’s report may shut him up.
Robert C. Premium Member about 5 years ago
A disquieting subject, beautifully rendered, Mr. Morin.
AndrewSihler about 5 years ago
Smashing artwork. At first I thought it might be Cardinal Burke, but he wouldn’t be smiling (his face would fall off if he tried).
NeoconMan about 5 years ago
The king is above the Law.
Radish the wordsmith about 5 years ago
Republicans demand to be treated like royalty, the rest of you are nothing to them.
wellis1947 Premium Member about 5 years ago
When William Barr’s little “audition” note surfaced, the alarm bells started ringing. If you have the fortitude to wade through the "trash’ of his "memo to Rosenstein and Engel, you will find that “little Billy B” believes that the power of the American president ‘knows’ no limits and that, if the President “does” something, the act of he or she doing “it” confers an ipso facto “legality” to that action.
This ‘parrots’ Tricky Dick Nixon’s assertion of the same power.
Barr’s opinion evidently was and is that the President’s power is unlimited and unchecked and that the President CANNOT be accused of obstruction because ‘obstruction’ implies “wrongdoing” which is antithetical to ANY action of the Presidency! That was his stance in the job application memo and, not all that surprisingly, was ALSO his stance in the document “summarizing” the Mueller Report.
pamela welch Premium Member about 5 years ago
Jim, i have no where to go with this — it’s just way too accurate
SukieCrandall Premium Member about 5 years ago
Yes, it is too accurate, especially with the powers that can be abused by a president who has declared a state of emergency.
Obstruction of Justice is such a very bad charge against a president that it has been the one reported to be most worrying Trump’s legal team. Trump DID make public statements that appear to fit the definition, but there is a legal question whether a person can be charged with Obstruction of Justice without it being connected to charges of a crime by that individual himself rather than just by the person influenced. (Yet when once thinks of times when people were charged w aiding a criminal by obstructing, there is cause to wonder…)
Meanwhile, there DEFINITELY were successful prosecutions of Attempted Collusion (not the exact term, but you know what I mean) by multiple members of the campaign, which itself is a crime, so that raises a different question: at what point do illegal actions of employees have to also infer responsibility of the boss? In relation to this also think of mob and drug cartel bosses, and what they could so if a precedent is set…
So, there are questions if Trump can be held at all responsible for the actions of multiple high level campaign employees with whom he had direct meetings, AND there is the question (IF bosses get off the hook) of whether a person can be charged if a criminal charge is not being held against them.
Depending on how Trump’s legal team thinks those two questions will resolve in a court setting, he might ask Barr to actually release the Mueller report in full, or with retracted areas (retractions which are now known to NOT be needed under law according to several people who wrote the guidelines), or to hold it back. If either of the last two happen the public WH position will be that it was all Barr’s call, of course, the same as so often happens with unpopular actions by Trump appointees.
The 4 pg Barr report turns out to be based (?) on 300pg text and 400 pg appendices