We should all follow our personal religious beliefs. If you believe abortion is immoral, don’t have an abortion; however, in a democracy, as opposed to a theocracy, one cannot and should not be forced to accept or to follow the religious beliefs of others and others cannot and should not even consider imposing their religious beliefs on anyone.
Don’t confuse the right to have an abortion with the right NOT to have an abortion. Some religious beliefs preclude divorce and deem divorce to be as immoral as abortion. Should the same standard regarding abortion which a strident few are trying to impose on everyone be used to impose religious beliefs re divorce on everyone?
In a democracy which respects freedom of religion, everyone should be allowed to act or to refrain from acting in accord with their religious beliefs. There’s simply no room to allow the government to impose the religious beliefs of a strident bloc of voters on everyone. Doing that would be the very definition of a state religion and that is utterly unacceptable.
It is a true fact that Hillary supports all abortions, including “partial birth” procedures in the 9th month of the developed baby.-It is a true fact that Planned Parenthood which is credited with doing 1/3 of all USA abortions, has and does sell aborted baby parts; a documented and unarguable truth.-It is a true fact that there is something missing in the faith of a professing Christian to claim that the murder of the preborn is not a sinful murder, even according to the RCatholic Pope.-Otherwise, we would not have had millennia of anti-murder laws in human governments. Civil laws based on God’s Laws revealed in the Bible have always been the foundation of secular civil laws for society. Laws to protect every human from conception to natural death are in the best interest of everyone. It is time to include human life from conception.
Plenty of anti abortion women are known to have gotten abortions when it was convenient for them. Then they go back on the lines screaming at women going into clinics.
@Kaffekup…in my thinking, for a woman who sadly chose to kill her unborn child, to later change her mind and oppose the holocaust of the pre-born is a good thing. To never change your mind on what is good and what is evil, is robotic.
I would guess that most late term abortions are medical necessities to save the mother or that the unborn child has major defects. As such it should be a decision made by the doctor and patient.. NOT some bureaucrat or bible thumping preacher. Want to be compassionate and save lives… start bringing in some of those refugees that YOU created with your misguided wars.
After about 24 weeks of pregnancy, abortions are usually performed only for serious health reasons. Planned Parenthood does not accept any reimbursement costs at any of its clinics for the transfer of fetal tissue-samples. And Kaine understands that in a representative Democracy we all have to work together. He has his beliefs and faith, and we have the rules of law in our land.
Mike Pence said mothers should not work.Tried to force women in Indiana to have funerals for abortions.Tried to shut down and defund Planned Parenthood.Mike Pence voted against equal pay for women and opposed paid family leave.
@Kip W….you asked me “What does the murder of a human being have to do with abortion?”-the answer can be found in modern science.the development of the united egg and sperm from conception to birth is known and proves that the baby that is born was human from the moment of conception.deliberate killing of the developing baby…usually after pain is felt by the baby…is cruel and inhuman and deserves to be correctly labelled murder. facts are facts.
There is a horrid nastiness about such cartoons which harshly try one’s sense of democracy and free speech. Does free speech really allow lies, perversions, distortions? Wow.
Michael Peterson Premium Member over 7 years ago
To recirculating lies? Yes, we should all be opposed to recirculating lies. Even you, Chip.
cocavan11 over 7 years ago
We should all follow our personal religious beliefs. If you believe abortion is immoral, don’t have an abortion; however, in a democracy, as opposed to a theocracy, one cannot and should not be forced to accept or to follow the religious beliefs of others and others cannot and should not even consider imposing their religious beliefs on anyone.
Don’t confuse the right to have an abortion with the right NOT to have an abortion. Some religious beliefs preclude divorce and deem divorce to be as immoral as abortion. Should the same standard regarding abortion which a strident few are trying to impose on everyone be used to impose religious beliefs re divorce on everyone?
In a democracy which respects freedom of religion, everyone should be allowed to act or to refrain from acting in accord with their religious beliefs. There’s simply no room to allow the government to impose the religious beliefs of a strident bloc of voters on everyone. Doing that would be the very definition of a state religion and that is utterly unacceptable.
Kylop over 7 years ago
Chip,, are you still beating your wife?
Darsan54 Premium Member over 7 years ago
Seriously Bok? Seriously?
Kip W over 7 years ago
This tells me pretty much all I will ever want to know about Bok.
brent Premium Member over 7 years ago
Churning up old lies Chip? You must really be dry for material.
kline0800 over 7 years ago
It is a true fact that Hillary supports all abortions, including “partial birth” procedures in the 9th month of the developed baby.-It is a true fact that Planned Parenthood which is credited with doing 1/3 of all USA abortions, has and does sell aborted baby parts; a documented and unarguable truth.-It is a true fact that there is something missing in the faith of a professing Christian to claim that the murder of the preborn is not a sinful murder, even according to the RCatholic Pope.-Otherwise, we would not have had millennia of anti-murder laws in human governments. Civil laws based on God’s Laws revealed in the Bible have always been the foundation of secular civil laws for society. Laws to protect every human from conception to natural death are in the best interest of everyone. It is time to include human life from conception.
eckp1 over 7 years ago
Using some of the logic by Cavan, if don’t personally believe killing adults is immoral then you are fair game by the same morality argument you use.
kaffekup over 7 years ago
Plenty of anti abortion women are known to have gotten abortions when it was convenient for them. Then they go back on the lines screaming at women going into clinics.
kline0800 over 7 years ago
@OldCoal….murder by another name (abortion) is still murder, the intentional ending of a human life, which used to be UN-lawful.
I Quit over 7 years ago
If you haven’t and more importantly wouldn’t adopt a crack baby, then you have no moral superiority over anyone in the abortion debate.
kline0800 over 7 years ago
@Kaffekup…in my thinking, for a woman who sadly chose to kill her unborn child, to later change her mind and oppose the holocaust of the pre-born is a good thing. To never change your mind on what is good and what is evil, is robotic.
Alberta Oil Premium Member over 7 years ago
I would guess that most late term abortions are medical necessities to save the mother or that the unborn child has major defects. As such it should be a decision made by the doctor and patient.. NOT some bureaucrat or bible thumping preacher. Want to be compassionate and save lives… start bringing in some of those refugees that YOU created with your misguided wars.
streetbeater over 7 years ago
Protect those unborn babies so they can grow up to be soldiers and kill those unrighteous heathens.
Mr. Blawt over 7 years ago
After about 24 weeks of pregnancy, abortions are usually performed only for serious health reasons. Planned Parenthood does not accept any reimbursement costs at any of its clinics for the transfer of fetal tissue-samples. And Kaine understands that in a representative Democracy we all have to work together. He has his beliefs and faith, and we have the rules of law in our land.
ahab over 7 years ago
Some conservatives want to return to medieval unplanned parenthood. Guttmacher.org
Happy Two Shoes over 7 years ago
Mike Pence said mothers should not work.Tried to force women in Indiana to have funerals for abortions.Tried to shut down and defund Planned Parenthood.Mike Pence voted against equal pay for women and opposed paid family leave.
oneoldhat over 7 years ago
how else are they going to be able to buy fine wine and sports cars // so old coal infanticide is ok with you?
kline0800 over 7 years ago
@Kip W….you asked me “What does the murder of a human being have to do with abortion?”-the answer can be found in modern science.the development of the united egg and sperm from conception to birth is known and proves that the baby that is born was human from the moment of conception.deliberate killing of the developing baby…usually after pain is felt by the baby…is cruel and inhuman and deserves to be correctly labelled murder. facts are facts.
dicesare over 7 years ago
There is a horrid nastiness about such cartoons which harshly try one’s sense of democracy and free speech. Does free speech really allow lies, perversions, distortions? Wow.
vorpal7 over 7 years ago
Kaine is morally bankrupt.