One of my neighbors sked me if I had a gun and told me that I should have one to protect myself. When I asked what I would be protecting myself from, he told me “from people who come to take your gun”.
Until the FBI names the exact rifle that the shooter, Mateen, shot 113 persons between 2 a.m. and 5 a.m. in Orlando,using an AR-15 type rifle, which is not automatic and shoots one bullet each time the trigger is pulled, anyone who claims this was an “assault weapon” mass murder is lying, and we should suspect the speaker is politically ANTI-GUN and ANTI 2nd AMENDMENT.-http://cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/sessions-more-570-charged-convicted-or-connected-terror-911-almost-Senator Sessions, Chairman of the Judiciary subcommittee on immigration and the national interest, reports that since 9/11/01 in America, more than 570 suspects have been charged, convicted or connected to Terror; almost all are Muslims; with “about 2/3 of those people were foreign born and almost all were Islamic individuals.”-Another interesting information article today at cnsnews.comis “Florida, America’s Jihad Playground” by Michelle Malkin.The mass murderer Mateen had access to Florida schools teaching jihad, he was enrolled in a class taught by American, ex-Marine Marcus Dwayne Robertson (aka Abu Taubah) who turned career criminal and bodyguard to the infamous “Blind Sheik”, and heads an Orlando mosque and a 2008 established “Fundamental Islamic Knowledge Seminary” where he railed against gays and non-Muslims.-IMO our authorities are either inexcusably ignorant of the “killing” teachings directly from the Koran, used in Sharia Law and practiced now by “Radical Islamic Jihadis” in spite of the defense-lawyer protection given them by Obama and his regime, which to please Muslim leaders censored true facts and terms even from the FBI teaching manuals!
http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/06/14/fact-check-ar-15-wasnt-used-orlando-wouldnt-mattered-anyway/-an excellent source of gun facts for those in the media and in congress and whoever is on tv spinning the daily narrative.-I found the actual identity of the gun used by Mateen in his pulling the trigger the 113 times it took to actually hit people.A bearingarms.com article named the gun to be aSIG SAUER MCX carbine. (Not an automatic or a 500 rounds a minute machine gun, correct?)
Varvel is correct, we must do something about these radical extremist assault rifles. Radical – relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something; far-reaching or thorough. Like this assault weapon has affected the fundamental nature of people’s lives.Extremist – a person who holds extreme or fanatical political or religious views, especially one who resorts to or advocates extreme action. Like the madmen who shoot down a building full of people or the madmen who support this assault weapon. Assault – make a physical attack on. Like when you shoot someoneRifle – a gun, especially one fired from shoulder level, having a long spirally grooved barrel intended to make a bullet spin and thereby have greater accuracy over a long distance. Like this weapon.This is not a self-defense or a hunting rifle. This is an assault weapon made for mass-murder.
Between navigation devices in vehicles, cellphones, and credit card purchases there probably exists an unofficial gun registration list that is not currently being utilized, but could be. Now some, but not all of the issues:One problem is the cash purchases of weapons by criminals.Another problem is sales to mentally incompetent people.A third is unauthorized use of a legally purchased but improperly secured.There are no doubt many others.To conflate all these into a single issue is not practical.There is no reason why the gun owners and non gun-owners cannot work out ways to deal with each issue and come up with solutions that protect both gun rights and prvent unnecessary gun deaths, but it won’t fit on a bumper sticker.
When there is a hostage crisis, domestic threat or an emotional charged situation, do people in authority send in angry, belligerent, personnel to further inflame the situation, or do they send in negotiators to lower the emotions of the event and talk and reason with the person/people involved?
It is all Obama’s fault. He does not talk about mental illness or terrorist just guns. That is all I hear guns this, guns that. Did I tell you I am deaf?
I have numerous hunting rifles, shotguns, and pistols, in varying calibers and gauges. I wouldn’t own an AR-15 or M-16, or “assault rifle”, as I used them in Nam, and for hunting or civilian use, they’re worthless junk, despite what the “self defense” folks say. I can use my hunting rifle to take down an attacker over a kilometer away from me. I can use a shotgun to keep him outside my home. Or a pistol, or shotgun to take an aggressor inside my home. If I don’t want to wake anyone, my baseball bat, or my sword can also do the job in the home, but the sword would make too much mess, so I’ll settle for the bat.
LARGE CAPACITY MAGAZINES HAVE NO PLACE IN CIVILIAN HANDS, PERIOD. Regulate and restrict them, It isn’t whether semi-auto or not, it’s ammunition capacity that makes mass killings possible, period. They’re also the ONLY reason for such large magazine capacity.
Do you hate Muslims as much as you hate blacks? Do you remember posting this back on March 6?:. DEFINITIONS:Socialism: Whites working really hard to provide blacks with all of their free stuff.Racism: Whites not liking socialism.
Yes, we must do something about these rifles: give one to each honorably discharged veteran, or other person who demonstrates gun safety and responsibility.
“Only the ones that act like bigots.”.Which based on your many past posts, you define as “Anyone who disagrees with you.” Nice use of circular reasoning there.
One of the last guys that shot up a bunch of people with one of these was a rich milk fed suburban kid. When that bigot shot those church people in S. Carolina nobody interviewed his parents or asked about his religion. And no one suggested shutting down those web sites or meetings where this was discussed.When clinics are bombed and doctors assassinated by “Christian fundamentalists” people don’t suggest banning those churches where they learned this was OK and that Jesus would forgive them. I do believe that the will to violence will lead to a violent act but these weapons make them so much worse.
LARGE CAPACITY MAGAZINES HAVE NO PLACE IN CIVILIAN HANDS, PERIOD.Because only the guys with armbands and jackboots badges and uniforms should have such weaponry?
Nebulous Premium Member almost 8 years ago
No! We need to ban all the illegal immigrants from…
umm…Queens, NY!!!
Isn’t that where Trump is from too?
jespence97 almost 8 years ago
The Orlando shooting has been relabeled as the LaPierre Mass Killing.
superposition almost 8 years ago
One of my neighbors sked me if I had a gun and told me that I should have one to protect myself. When I asked what I would be protecting myself from, he told me “from people who come to take your gun”.
kline0800 almost 8 years ago
Until the FBI names the exact rifle that the shooter, Mateen, shot 113 persons between 2 a.m. and 5 a.m. in Orlando,using an AR-15 type rifle, which is not automatic and shoots one bullet each time the trigger is pulled, anyone who claims this was an “assault weapon” mass murder is lying, and we should suspect the speaker is politically ANTI-GUN and ANTI 2nd AMENDMENT.-http://cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/sessions-more-570-charged-convicted-or-connected-terror-911-almost-Senator Sessions, Chairman of the Judiciary subcommittee on immigration and the national interest, reports that since 9/11/01 in America, more than 570 suspects have been charged, convicted or connected to Terror; almost all are Muslims; with “about 2/3 of those people were foreign born and almost all were Islamic individuals.”-Another interesting information article today at cnsnews.comis “Florida, America’s Jihad Playground” by Michelle Malkin.The mass murderer Mateen had access to Florida schools teaching jihad, he was enrolled in a class taught by American, ex-Marine Marcus Dwayne Robertson (aka Abu Taubah) who turned career criminal and bodyguard to the infamous “Blind Sheik”, and heads an Orlando mosque and a 2008 established “Fundamental Islamic Knowledge Seminary” where he railed against gays and non-Muslims.-IMO our authorities are either inexcusably ignorant of the “killing” teachings directly from the Koran, used in Sharia Law and practiced now by “Radical Islamic Jihadis” in spite of the defense-lawyer protection given them by Obama and his regime, which to please Muslim leaders censored true facts and terms even from the FBI teaching manuals!
Happy Two Shoes almost 8 years ago
First do something about the radical extremist NRA GOP axis of evil.
kline0800 almost 8 years ago
http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/06/14/fact-check-ar-15-wasnt-used-orlando-wouldnt-mattered-anyway/-an excellent source of gun facts for those in the media and in congress and whoever is on tv spinning the daily narrative.-I found the actual identity of the gun used by Mateen in his pulling the trigger the 113 times it took to actually hit people.A bearingarms.com article named the gun to be aSIG SAUER MCX carbine. (Not an automatic or a 500 rounds a minute machine gun, correct?)
Addled Brain almost 8 years ago
tom, we can always count on you to offer the racist viewpoint.
Mr. Blawt almost 8 years ago
Varvel is correct, we must do something about these radical extremist assault rifles. Radical – relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something; far-reaching or thorough. Like this assault weapon has affected the fundamental nature of people’s lives.Extremist – a person who holds extreme or fanatical political or religious views, especially one who resorts to or advocates extreme action. Like the madmen who shoot down a building full of people or the madmen who support this assault weapon. Assault – make a physical attack on. Like when you shoot someoneRifle – a gun, especially one fired from shoulder level, having a long spirally grooved barrel intended to make a bullet spin and thereby have greater accuracy over a long distance. Like this weapon.This is not a self-defense or a hunting rifle. This is an assault weapon made for mass-murder.
superposition almost 8 years ago
Between navigation devices in vehicles, cellphones, and credit card purchases there probably exists an unofficial gun registration list that is not currently being utilized, but could be. Now some, but not all of the issues:One problem is the cash purchases of weapons by criminals.Another problem is sales to mentally incompetent people.A third is unauthorized use of a legally purchased but improperly secured.There are no doubt many others.To conflate all these into a single issue is not practical.There is no reason why the gun owners and non gun-owners cannot work out ways to deal with each issue and come up with solutions that protect both gun rights and prvent unnecessary gun deaths, but it won’t fit on a bumper sticker.
Frankfreak almost 8 years ago
When there is a hostage crisis, domestic threat or an emotional charged situation, do people in authority send in angry, belligerent, personnel to further inflame the situation, or do they send in negotiators to lower the emotions of the event and talk and reason with the person/people involved?
PainterArt Premium Member almost 8 years ago
It is all Obama’s fault. He does not talk about mental illness or terrorist just guns. That is all I hear guns this, guns that. Did I tell you I am deaf?
Dtroutma almost 8 years ago
I have numerous hunting rifles, shotguns, and pistols, in varying calibers and gauges. I wouldn’t own an AR-15 or M-16, or “assault rifle”, as I used them in Nam, and for hunting or civilian use, they’re worthless junk, despite what the “self defense” folks say. I can use my hunting rifle to take down an attacker over a kilometer away from me. I can use a shotgun to keep him outside my home. Or a pistol, or shotgun to take an aggressor inside my home. If I don’t want to wake anyone, my baseball bat, or my sword can also do the job in the home, but the sword would make too much mess, so I’ll settle for the bat.
LARGE CAPACITY MAGAZINES HAVE NO PLACE IN CIVILIAN HANDS, PERIOD. Regulate and restrict them, It isn’t whether semi-auto or not, it’s ammunition capacity that makes mass killings possible, period. They’re also the ONLY reason for such large magazine capacity.
BE THIS GUY almost 8 years ago
Do you hate Muslims as much as you hate blacks? Do you remember posting this back on March 6?:. DEFINITIONS:Socialism: Whites working really hard to provide blacks with all of their free stuff.Racism: Whites not liking socialism.
BE THIS GUY almost 8 years ago
The Constitution guarantees me the right to own an armed drone.
Dave Ferro almost 8 years ago
Yes, we must do something about these rifles: give one to each honorably discharged veteran, or other person who demonstrates gun safety and responsibility.
Mr. Blawt almost 8 years ago
Typical liberal crying for free stuff. Who is going to pay for it commie?
Patinphx Premium Member almost 8 years ago
Mr. Varvel, you left out “radical Christian ideology.” As long as religions teach hateful behavior toward minorities, we will have violence.
Dtroutma almost 8 years ago
Mateen used a Sig, which is even MORE “military” style than an AR 15. Touted by them for sale only to military and police because of the firepower.
Anweir88 almost 8 years ago
“Only the ones that act like bigots.”.Which based on your many past posts, you define as “Anyone who disagrees with you.” Nice use of circular reasoning there.
ED CANTWELL almost 8 years ago
One of the last guys that shot up a bunch of people with one of these was a rich milk fed suburban kid. When that bigot shot those church people in S. Carolina nobody interviewed his parents or asked about his religion. And no one suggested shutting down those web sites or meetings where this was discussed.When clinics are bombed and doctors assassinated by “Christian fundamentalists” people don’t suggest banning those churches where they learned this was OK and that Jesus would forgive them. I do believe that the will to violence will lead to a violent act but these weapons make them so much worse.
Geezer almost 8 years ago
LARGE CAPACITY MAGAZINES HAVE NO PLACE IN CIVILIAN HANDS, PERIOD.Because only the guys with armbands and jackboots badges and uniforms should have such weaponry?
Michael Peterson Premium Member almost 8 years ago
Well, the guys with the aluminum foil wrapped around their heads shouldn’t, that’s for sure.