This perfectly represents exactly what those supporting Bundy folks are really out for. Most ranching is corporate, not “mom and pop” and as if getting land nearly for free to mine, graze, or remove oil and gas from already as it’s in federal ownership, if it goes “private” watch the “NO TRESPASSING” signs go up for anyone in the public to use the land.
They say they found documents at the bird sanctuary to prove their point. What kind of documents are stored at an abandoned bird sanctuary. I guess they must have got them from ALEC!
The other reason the Republicans want to privatize public lands is so they can buy it up for their vacation homes, and put up fences and signs to keep YOU out.[]http://www.hcn.org/articles/quack-attack-ducks-unlimited-fires-writer-over-stream-access-fracas[]And what’s truly sad is that the Republican rank-and-file are dumb enough to buy into their wealthy leaders’, “freedom-for-the-people” BS.
And the beat goes on; turning over public lands to private interests is not declining, but ascending. The Republicans aggressively push it, while far too many Democrats sit back and mutter “What, me worry?”. The toon is all too accurate.
Folks should know something about those public lands, like the fact that if cattlemen paid fair market value for grazing, miners had to pay fair market value for the minerals removed, and oil and gas leases on federal land were actually fair market value, or even matched what Texas charges on state resources, we wouldn’t have a national debt. There’s also over 200 years of federal land law, and the Constitution, going back to the grants to REVOLUTIONARY WAR veterans of lands “back east” for their service in the military.
Most of those east coast states btw, the lands were already developed, settled, or claimed by private owners before the nation became the nation, which is why they immediately were granted ownership of those lands, and the federal government never claimed them. That’s not the same story as west of the Missiissippi, from the Louisiana Purchase, to the acquisition and addition of Hawaii and Alaska to the nation.(Both of those states btw have VERY DIFFERENT land laws than the 11 western conterminous states.)
If you have enough weapons – you can go take over federal lands. Then you can build on them, burn them, keep others out, suck the oil out, own the air above. But what happens when someone with bigger (legal) guns come and (legally) take over the lands? I guess in the new America you just let it happen. Roll over and give your land away so no one has to feel bad and have a pity party with their guns n snacks.
Wmconelly: btw: Federal lease, $1.42 per AUM, Kochs or any private land grazing on the same grade of forage, water etc, $12-$20 per AUM. Even the state’s are going to charge at least five times as much as the Feds.
Rocky Mountain National Park is land once owned by a wealthy Englishman. Naturally, he kept most Americans off of it, it was his hunting range. If the GOP gets its way, how long before it’s owned by a Russian oligarch?
No, no; only certain people. You can bet your lottery winnings that if a bunch of African Americans or Muslims — or, indeed, any other non-White, non-wealthy non-Christians — had tried something like this, they’d be begging for snacks from behind the barbed-wire of a Federal Prison; and Vanilla ISIS would be denouncing them as “terrorists” for having had the nerve to assert their rights to that land. Like their sense of self-entitlement, hypocrisy runs deep in those welfare cowboys.
Dtroutma over 8 years ago
This perfectly represents exactly what those supporting Bundy folks are really out for. Most ranching is corporate, not “mom and pop” and as if getting land nearly for free to mine, graze, or remove oil and gas from already as it’s in federal ownership, if it goes “private” watch the “NO TRESPASSING” signs go up for anyone in the public to use the land.
moosemin over 8 years ago
Ah, yes; the legacy of James Watt and Ronald Reagan!
NeedaChuckle Premium Member over 8 years ago
They say they found documents at the bird sanctuary to prove their point. What kind of documents are stored at an abandoned bird sanctuary. I guess they must have got them from ALEC!
6.6TA over 8 years ago
Make America great, again. Bring back hydraulic mining.
superposition over 8 years ago
Don’t count on “our” congress to prevent this … their owners would be very upset.
Simon_Jester over 8 years ago
The other reason the Republicans want to privatize public lands is so they can buy it up for their vacation homes, and put up fences and signs to keep YOU out.[]http://www.hcn.org/articles/quack-attack-ducks-unlimited-fires-writer-over-stream-access-fracas[]And what’s truly sad is that the Republican rank-and-file are dumb enough to buy into their wealthy leaders’, “freedom-for-the-people” BS.
Cerabooge over 8 years ago
And the beat goes on; turning over public lands to private interests is not declining, but ascending. The Republicans aggressively push it, while far too many Democrats sit back and mutter “What, me worry?”. The toon is all too accurate.
Godfreydaniel over 8 years ago
It’s a bird sanctuary, so maybe the secret plot is to wait ’til the crazed extremists all succumb to bird flu?
Dtroutma over 8 years ago
Folks should know something about those public lands, like the fact that if cattlemen paid fair market value for grazing, miners had to pay fair market value for the minerals removed, and oil and gas leases on federal land were actually fair market value, or even matched what Texas charges on state resources, we wouldn’t have a national debt. There’s also over 200 years of federal land law, and the Constitution, going back to the grants to REVOLUTIONARY WAR veterans of lands “back east” for their service in the military.
Most of those east coast states btw, the lands were already developed, settled, or claimed by private owners before the nation became the nation, which is why they immediately were granted ownership of those lands, and the federal government never claimed them. That’s not the same story as west of the Missiissippi, from the Louisiana Purchase, to the acquisition and addition of Hawaii and Alaska to the nation.(Both of those states btw have VERY DIFFERENT land laws than the 11 western conterminous states.)
Kip W over 8 years ago
It’s only fitting that GOP arguments exclude the middle, since their economic policies do the same.
Mr. Blawt over 8 years ago
If you have enough weapons – you can go take over federal lands. Then you can build on them, burn them, keep others out, suck the oil out, own the air above. But what happens when someone with bigger (legal) guns come and (legally) take over the lands? I guess in the new America you just let it happen. Roll over and give your land away so no one has to feel bad and have a pity party with their guns n snacks.
Dtroutma over 8 years ago
Wmconelly: btw: Federal lease, $1.42 per AUM, Kochs or any private land grazing on the same grade of forage, water etc, $12-$20 per AUM. Even the state’s are going to charge at least five times as much as the Feds.
ARodney over 8 years ago
Rocky Mountain National Park is land once owned by a wealthy Englishman. Naturally, he kept most Americans off of it, it was his hunting range. If the GOP gets its way, how long before it’s owned by a Russian oligarch?
Simon_Jester over 8 years ago
How much that has to do with the Bundy story and THIS country:ZERO%
reynard61 over 8 years ago
No, no; only certain people. You can bet your lottery winnings that if a bunch of African Americans or Muslims — or, indeed, any other non-White, non-wealthy non-Christians — had tried something like this, they’d be begging for snacks from behind the barbed-wire of a Federal Prison; and Vanilla ISIS would be denouncing them as “terrorists” for having had the nerve to assert their rights to that land. Like their sense of self-entitlement, hypocrisy runs deep in those welfare cowboys.
markjoseph125 over 8 years ago
How anyone can remain so ignorant is mystifying.It seems like you’ve managed it nicely. Care to explain to the rest of us how you did it?