HOwever, they don’t give a rat’s patooty if he dies, or if the whole species goes extinct. Greed and the love of money by those who if not for greed, could make things right.We will kill everything including the human race.
A BP type spill in the Arctic instead of the Gulf? You don’t even want to start to think about it. They’ve already dumped to rigs before they could even get ’em in place, not exactly confidence building.
The birth rate is dropping below replacement level in the most developed countries and more countries are becoming developed over time. The main reason seems to be people want a decent quality of life and kids are very expensive. Japan has a shrinking population since they are so anti-immigration. Immigration is the only reason the US population is still increasing..
You cannot hold views like Harley’s and look at data. Not on immigration, not on economics, not on climate, not even on simple mathematics. Conservatism and science parted ways about twenty years ago, and every year they grow farther apart.
I, for one, am anxious about ANYONE drilling in the Arctic – Russians, us, Canadians. An oil spill there would be catastrophic on multiple grounds, and I don’t trust any of the companies moving in there as fast as they can.And I love the way that some people on this list are ignoring the fact that this is only possible BECAUSE OF GLOBAL WARMING!!Sheesh.
It’s already too late. Contrary to what the rightwing blogosphere, the scientists aren’t crying wolf to get more funding> They are downplaying how bad it has already gotten for fear the naysayers will cut their funding. If they are optomistic and say there’s still hope for a solution, they’ll play that game to come up with a solution.I feel sorry for all of you with new grandchildren. They’re in for a tough ride ahead.
The fight over rights to Arctic regions by all involved countries is largely BECAUSE anthropogenic climate change IS making exploration possible, and production feasible economically as ice disappears as a threat. (because the sheets are thinner even if they do expand area, volume is way down)
Bear numbers ARE down, and as they’re migratory, it’s difficult whether some have just moved, or died. The incursions into human habitat, towns, HAVE increased as bears lose their native habitat, and prey base of seals (which are dying in California and points south because ocean warming and pollution is wiping out the seals’ prey base).
Touch one thing in the universe, and you affect everything in the universe.
We could not drill in the Arctic at all if the icecap weren’t MELTING AWAY. Or did you not hear that the Northwest Passage opened up for the first time in human history in 2007?http://www.livescience.com/1884-arctic-meltdown-opens-fabled-northwest-passage.html
Evidently Harley doesn’t read the articles he links, because usually they don’t support the point he’s trying to make, and if he doesn’t read them, why should I? I keep hoping that maybe someday he will have something to contribute to the discussion.
Then, more recently, we have the Leaked Internal documents from Shell Oil showing that the company not only Believes in Climate Change, Shell Oil is working on long term business strategies to Profit from Denying It.
denis1112: Greenpeace boarded a Russian drilling rig (again) recently, but the corporate media gave it the one-day treatment, and so there was never any followup. This is standard procedure for any story the multinationals don’t want covered, but also don’t want anyone to be able to cite it as not covered. [“We covered that on the noon news last Saturday.”] This is in contrast to Fox which is willing to censor anything the Australian meglomaniac wants hidden, while never letting loose of any distraction, no matter how long ago it was a story.
Darsan54 Premium Member almost 9 years ago
The quote should read: “We’ll be careful. . .to not kill you. . . . directly.”
pam Miner almost 9 years ago
HOwever, they don’t give a rat’s patooty if he dies, or if the whole species goes extinct. Greed and the love of money by those who if not for greed, could make things right.We will kill everything including the human race.
Dtroutma almost 9 years ago
A BP type spill in the Arctic instead of the Gulf? You don’t even want to start to think about it. They’ve already dumped to rigs before they could even get ’em in place, not exactly confidence building.
emptc12 almost 9 years ago
Just apologize and name stuff after them when they’re almost all gone except in zoos. That’s worked fine for other things in the past.
magicwalnut Premium Member almost 9 years ago
Overpopulation is probably even more to blame than greed. It’s probably time for Mother Nature to come up with a deadly superbug we can’t kill….
Theodore E. Lind Premium Member almost 9 years ago
The birth rate is dropping below replacement level in the most developed countries and more countries are becoming developed over time. The main reason seems to be people want a decent quality of life and kids are very expensive. Japan has a shrinking population since they are so anti-immigration. Immigration is the only reason the US population is still increasing..
grapefroot almost 9 years ago
Gotta love it when a comment removes all doubt of someone’s ignorance
Cerabooge almost 9 years ago
“the population is growing”.
The usual rape of the facts. Try doing a little googling before spewing the usual propaganda.
ARodney almost 9 years ago
You cannot hold views like Harley’s and look at data. Not on immigration, not on economics, not on climate, not even on simple mathematics. Conservatism and science parted ways about twenty years ago, and every year they grow farther apart.
Motivemagus almost 9 years ago
I, for one, am anxious about ANYONE drilling in the Arctic – Russians, us, Canadians. An oil spill there would be catastrophic on multiple grounds, and I don’t trust any of the companies moving in there as fast as they can.And I love the way that some people on this list are ignoring the fact that this is only possible BECAUSE OF GLOBAL WARMING!!Sheesh.
BaltoBill almost 9 years ago
It’s already too late. Contrary to what the rightwing blogosphere, the scientists aren’t crying wolf to get more funding> They are downplaying how bad it has already gotten for fear the naysayers will cut their funding. If they are optomistic and say there’s still hope for a solution, they’ll play that game to come up with a solution.I feel sorry for all of you with new grandchildren. They’re in for a tough ride ahead.
Dtroutma almost 9 years ago
The fight over rights to Arctic regions by all involved countries is largely BECAUSE anthropogenic climate change IS making exploration possible, and production feasible economically as ice disappears as a threat. (because the sheets are thinner even if they do expand area, volume is way down)
Bear numbers ARE down, and as they’re migratory, it’s difficult whether some have just moved, or died. The incursions into human habitat, towns, HAVE increased as bears lose their native habitat, and prey base of seals (which are dying in California and points south because ocean warming and pollution is wiping out the seals’ prey base).
Touch one thing in the universe, and you affect everything in the universe.
Motivemagus almost 9 years ago
We could not drill in the Arctic at all if the icecap weren’t MELTING AWAY. Or did you not hear that the Northwest Passage opened up for the first time in human history in 2007?http://www.livescience.com/1884-arctic-meltdown-opens-fabled-northwest-passage.html
hippogriff almost 9 years ago
magicwalnut: Ebola not effective enough for you? Isolate the victims until they die sufficient treatment (too many surviving even that?)?
eugene57 almost 9 years ago
Gee, takes little time to read the comments when skipping over the goofy weirdo.
lonecat almost 9 years ago
Evidently Harley doesn’t read the articles he links, because usually they don’t support the point he’s trying to make, and if he doesn’t read them, why should I? I keep hoping that maybe someday he will have something to contribute to the discussion.
Tarredandfeathered almost 9 years ago
Then, more recently, we have the Leaked Internal documents from Shell Oil showing that the company not only Believes in Climate Change, Shell Oil is working on long term business strategies to Profit from Denying It.
hippogriff almost 9 years ago
denis1112: Greenpeace boarded a Russian drilling rig (again) recently, but the corporate media gave it the one-day treatment, and so there was never any followup. This is standard procedure for any story the multinationals don’t want covered, but also don’t want anyone to be able to cite it as not covered. [“We covered that on the noon news last Saturday.”] This is in contrast to Fox which is willing to censor anything the Australian meglomaniac wants hidden, while never letting loose of any distraction, no matter how long ago it was a story.