“nonsense of taxes wanting to secede because the uppity black man got into the WHITE House.”.I had no idea TAXES wanted to secede especially considering how much bigger Obama is making them..BTW, why do you guys on the left (not all, but seems like most) always make an issue with race? Slide Obama out of there and put Alen West, or someone like Tomas Sowell and you won’t hear a dissenting peep out of republicans. Sure there are a few crackpots that post up on facebook, but I’ve not seen any right winger here make an issue about his race. Only you guys on the left seen to focus on it..Obama is not a bad president because he is black, he is a bad president because he is incompetent. As the first black president all he had to do was guide the country out of the recession and BAM great president! But instead he wanted to be a great democrat and expand the largess of government and has enabled the recession to stretch through his first full term and halfway into his 2nd (and it shows little signs of any meaningful recovery to anyone but the 1%ers)..I voted for him the first time MOSTLY BECAUSE he was black, the 2nd time I felt competency was more important..Try to look beyond the color of his skin, if you can.
The wording on the referendum should read (but doesn’t) “Do you vote to be a traitor to the country of Ukraine and join Russia?” A simple yes or no. There’s actually no provision to vote no or none of the above on the actual ballot!
So far as I know, Scotland was in no way coerced into joining England to become the United Kingdom. In fact, in 1707, I am pretty sure a larger majority of Scots were in favor of the Union than were English. There is a difference between a referendum in Crimea and a referendum in Scotland. The Scottish referendum has been agreed to by the British government, and signed off on by David Cameron. Furthermore, their referendum is for independence, not, say, union with Ireland, let alone union with a country bent on dominating England. No move was taken, or interest shown, in the Crimea for secession, or union with Russia, while there was a government in Kiev which acted in a manner subordinate to Russia. Would we feel different about a move by Alaska to leave the U.S., if the people there wanted to join Russia, or even Canada? Would we feel different about a move by New Mexico and Arizona to leave the union, if the plan was to unite with Mexico? Just wondering. I don’t know how dependent the Ukraine is, economically, on the Crimea. I don’t know what percentage of Crimeans actually favor breaking away, or if a referendum conducted under Russian military occupation is likely to reveal the truth. Putin has made it very clear that he has never approved of Ukrainian independence, or of the independence of any of the former Soviet Republics. Crimea may be a unique case, and indeed both Russia and the Ukraine (and the Crimeans) will be happier in the long run if Crimea joins Russia. Or this may be just the first step in an extended plan on the part of the Russians to come the defense of Russians in all the break-away republics and merely the first step. Latvia and Estonia and Belarus may look on with concern, and who is to say what other pieces of Ukraine Putin may intend to bite off?
I love to see people dumping on California. The only thing wrong with California is that it is too attractive to too many people for its own good. So if you don’t like California, great— stay far away. And don’t watch the movies we make, eat the food we produce, drink our wine, type on the computers we design, use the internet we invented, or the medicines we developed.
And if you live in California and don’t like it, grab a friend or five and leave. Go to some other state where you can be happy and willfully ignorant. Bye! Please forget to write!
This is a interesting definition of Nationhood. Scotland has not been an independent “nation” for centuries! Whereas the Crimea only became part of The Ukraine in relatively recent years when the U.S.S.R. made an administrative decision much more recently when they assumed that the monolithic state would continue in perpetuity!
Precisely. Repayment is for the little people, along with loyalty and other things big business and Republicans feel are owed to them but won’t bother giving.
Yontrop about 10 years ago
This is by far the best Ukraine cartoon I’ve seen so far.
echoraven about 10 years ago
“nonsense of taxes wanting to secede because the uppity black man got into the WHITE House.”.I had no idea TAXES wanted to secede especially considering how much bigger Obama is making them..BTW, why do you guys on the left (not all, but seems like most) always make an issue with race? Slide Obama out of there and put Alen West, or someone like Tomas Sowell and you won’t hear a dissenting peep out of republicans. Sure there are a few crackpots that post up on facebook, but I’ve not seen any right winger here make an issue about his race. Only you guys on the left seen to focus on it..Obama is not a bad president because he is black, he is a bad president because he is incompetent. As the first black president all he had to do was guide the country out of the recession and BAM great president! But instead he wanted to be a great democrat and expand the largess of government and has enabled the recession to stretch through his first full term and halfway into his 2nd (and it shows little signs of any meaningful recovery to anyone but the 1%ers)..I voted for him the first time MOSTLY BECAUSE he was black, the 2nd time I felt competency was more important..Try to look beyond the color of his skin, if you can.
Godfreydaniel about 10 years ago
The wording on the referendum should read (but doesn’t) “Do you vote to be a traitor to the country of Ukraine and join Russia?” A simple yes or no. There’s actually no provision to vote no or none of the above on the actual ballot!
Doughfoot about 10 years ago
So far as I know, Scotland was in no way coerced into joining England to become the United Kingdom. In fact, in 1707, I am pretty sure a larger majority of Scots were in favor of the Union than were English. There is a difference between a referendum in Crimea and a referendum in Scotland. The Scottish referendum has been agreed to by the British government, and signed off on by David Cameron. Furthermore, their referendum is for independence, not, say, union with Ireland, let alone union with a country bent on dominating England. No move was taken, or interest shown, in the Crimea for secession, or union with Russia, while there was a government in Kiev which acted in a manner subordinate to Russia. Would we feel different about a move by Alaska to leave the U.S., if the people there wanted to join Russia, or even Canada? Would we feel different about a move by New Mexico and Arizona to leave the union, if the plan was to unite with Mexico? Just wondering. I don’t know how dependent the Ukraine is, economically, on the Crimea. I don’t know what percentage of Crimeans actually favor breaking away, or if a referendum conducted under Russian military occupation is likely to reveal the truth. Putin has made it very clear that he has never approved of Ukrainian independence, or of the independence of any of the former Soviet Republics. Crimea may be a unique case, and indeed both Russia and the Ukraine (and the Crimeans) will be happier in the long run if Crimea joins Russia. Or this may be just the first step in an extended plan on the part of the Russians to come the defense of Russians in all the break-away republics and merely the first step. Latvia and Estonia and Belarus may look on with concern, and who is to say what other pieces of Ukraine Putin may intend to bite off?
Kip W about 10 years ago
I’d guess that the exit tax is to repay the tax breaks CA gave them to come in in the first place.
badcyclist Premium Member about 10 years ago
I love to see people dumping on California. The only thing wrong with California is that it is too attractive to too many people for its own good. So if you don’t like California, great— stay far away. And don’t watch the movies we make, eat the food we produce, drink our wine, type on the computers we design, use the internet we invented, or the medicines we developed.
And if you live in California and don’t like it, grab a friend or five and leave. Go to some other state where you can be happy and willfully ignorant. Bye! Please forget to write!
SABRSteve about 10 years ago
In a hundred years, the USA will be broken up.
Doughfoot about 10 years ago
California has a larger population than 200 of the 250 independent countries in the world. Including Canada.
Kenneth Clark about 10 years ago
I think that they have the color coding mixed up! It should be blue in the northeast, red in the center and mauve (?) on the west coast!!!
Kenneth Clark about 10 years ago
This is a interesting definition of Nationhood. Scotland has not been an independent “nation” for centuries! Whereas the Crimea only became part of The Ukraine in relatively recent years when the U.S.S.R. made an administrative decision much more recently when they assumed that the monolithic state would continue in perpetuity!
Kip W about 10 years ago
Precisely. Repayment is for the little people, along with loyalty and other things big business and Republicans feel are owed to them but won’t bother giving.
Kip W about 10 years ago
It takes a minute with a simple search engine to find that your propaganda-based view on this is as wrong as pretty much all your opinions here.
Kip W about 10 years ago
“Sorry for the name calling, but… stupid, dishonest, dumb, pathetic, off the rails, blah blah blah.”
Sorry for the name calling, but what a Joadtom.