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Tom Toles

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  1. braindead08

    braindead08 GoComics PRO Member said, about 3 years ago

    Harley, you never did state whether the shutdown is good or bad. Or maybe you didn’t notice being asked.
    C’mon, tell us what “us American” believe.

  2. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, about 3 years ago

    Debt ceiling approaching. Raising the debt ceiling does not authorize a penny in new spending, it authorizes paying debt already incurred. Only two nations have the artificial construct of a “debt ceiling.” Only one nation has ever used the its debt ceiling purposes of blackmail.

    Only the Congress can authorize spending.

    Imagine someone saying,“Though our credit rating is so good that we can borrow more money than we need at very low interest, though we have ample opportunities to raise our income, and though we haven’t been able to agree on any method of reducing our spending, my wife and I HAVE agreed that we can’t afford to be more than so much in debt, therefore we will not be paying any of our bills (except the ones that might be dangerous to leave unpaid) until our creditors agree to cancel some of the debt that we owe, for services we are presently enjoying and goods and services we have already used.”

  3. Enoki

    Enoki said, about 3 years ago

    We could only hope they both go extinct!

  4. lonecat

    lonecat said, about 3 years ago

    Genome, thanks for that link. I don’t know how to make automatic links, but the same page has a good graph comparing GDP to mean income:

  5. corzak

    corzak said, about 3 years ago

    FDR did not pull America out of the Great Depression . . . our active entry into World War II that really put our economy at 100% performance and produced the unprecedented prosperity of the Fifties and Sixties…

    Yes, the war. Massive government spending: over 70% of GDP. Federal government agencies managing the operation of private companies and whole industries. Government direction of production and resource allocation. 94% tax rate on top income bracket. By war’s end, government debt over 100% of GDP.

    That’s what really put our economy at 100% performance and produced the unprecedented prosperity of the Fifties and Sixties…

  6. I Play One On TV

    I Play One On TV said, about 3 years ago

    What many posters keep “forgetting” is that many who have their hands in the government till are getting corporate welfare. Billions to oil companies, idiotically low rates for agribusiness to graze their cattle on government land, equally below-market rates for mineral and oil-drilling rights. How about “Star Wars”, which is hundreds of billions for a system that is unlikely to be valuable, and has proven over and over not to work? Or thousands of new tanks being ordered, even though everyone knows they will never be used, only to keep jobs in Ohio? (Would those tanks have been ordered if the plant was in North Dakota? unlikely….)

    Wasteful spending can even include salaries for our worthless members of Congress.

    It is disingenuous and willful ignorance to blame all our problems on people who receive welfare and food stamps. Research the present governor of Florida, whose firm bilked millions from Medicare. That’s a lot of $139/month food stamps, right there.

    Agreed, spending must be controlled, but it is foolish to ignore corporate welfare and only blame those individuals on government assistance.

    It is also time to put to rest the idea that hard work equals financial success. While it is true that financial success rarely comes without hard work (exceptions being in the “entertainment” industry), most people who work very hard get minimal reward.

  7. Kip W

    Kip W said, about 3 years ago

    Who needs the Centers for Disease Control? Or food inspectors? Salmonella’s doing quite well without them!

  8. Kip W

    Kip W said, about 3 years ago

    What possible benefits could there be in an educated work force, safe roads and bridges, and first responders?

  9. Cygnus X1

    Cygnus X1 said, about 3 years ago


  10. The Wolf In Your Midst

    The Wolf In Your Midst said, about 3 years ago

    “But we must also rein in the out-of-control spending and government waste…America spends too much.”
    You are ABSOLUTELY right. We need to cut spending! Now let’s have a look at that military budget… unnecessary bases all over the world, over-budget programs for weapons the services don’t even want, overstuffed generals with overstaffed offices…
    “Oh, but wait!” some cry. “If we close those bases, so many soldiers will be out of work!” Well, that hasn’t stopped anyone from wanting to close down other parts of the government… am I to believe that teachers, desk jockeys and bureaucrats have the gumption to go out and find new work, but soldiers need to be coddled?
    Can you just admit that the military has become a government jobs program and handout machine to favored contractors? The only real difference between it and “entitlements” is that the latter helps people and the former kills people.
    The fact that the last Republican Presidential candidate wanted to increase the military budget to 4% of the GDP, and promised vague “cuts in other areas”, told me a lot.

  11. nordwonder

    nordwonder said, about 3 years ago

    Ah, yes, war, a massive spending program.

  12. hippogriff

    hippogriff said, about 3 years ago

    What would a “balanced budget” have done? 8 December 1941: Today the United States hands over to the Empire of Japan, the following: Philippines, Guam, American Samoa, Wake, Midway…

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  14. braindead08

    braindead08 GoComics PRO Member said, about 3 years ago

    Nice response Harley, except that you didn’t give an answer to my question:
    Is the government shutdown a good thing or a bad thing?
    Like all good Fox “news” viewers and “us American”, you expressed your hatred of Obama just fine. But, you failed to answer the question (which also keeps you consistent with other Fox “news” viewers).
    I guess it’s your position that if only Obama had decreed that the war memorial was to stay open, that there would be no pain for anyone?
    Really? Sarah Palin and Rafael Cruz show up at the memorial, and that becomes YOUR definition of ‘maximum pain’?

  15. braindead08

    braindead08 GoComics PRO Member said, about 3 years ago

    Really, Cora, if you actually wanted fewer illegals, you should get Republicans to prosecute those who hire them.

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