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  1. SusanCraig

    SusanCraig said, almost 4 years ago

    any way you look at it…. ouch

  2. ConserveGov

    ConserveGov said, almost 4 years ago

    “The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion dollars for the first 42 presidents — number 43 added $4 trillion dollars by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion dollars of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child,” Obama said on July 3, 2008, at a campaign event in Fargo, N.D.

    “That’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic,” said candidate Obama.

  3. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, almost 4 years ago


    Yep, unprecedented debt is irresponsible and unpatriotic - when it is unnecessary and served no purpose but the immediate gain of a few. (And when it was being done in the midst of warnings of imminent financial collapse.) Getting tens of thousands of Americans killed in “foreign wars” AND racking up unprecedented debt is even worse, but was there a better alternative in 1944?

    Perhaps Con-Gov thinks this quotation proves something other than policies have unexpected long-term consequences and that ought always to be considered.

    The Big Lie is that the present administration thinks there is no problem with running up debt, or that they wanted to do, or that there was some good alternative. The Big Lie is that trying to help people and prevent unnecessary human misery is REALLY an attempt to undermine the “moral fibre” of the nation and create a nation of dependents.

  4. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, almost 4 years ago

    Here’s a challenge for all the conservatives commenting on this cartoon: you say the debt is of vital concern to you, and you think taxpayers are being burdened with unnecessary expenses, and the payment of unnecessary benefits. Now there are a great many government programs out there intended to encourage this, or discourage that. About 96% of all Americans receive or have received some direct personal financial benefit from their fellow taxpayers, either in the form of a subsidy, a credit, or a tax deduction. Effectively, these are all the same thing. They all increase the debt.
    So here’s my question: What program FROM WHICH YOU PERSONALLY benefit, or have benefited, do you want to eliminate to help put our financial house in order? Give us some reason to NOT think that the only pain you are willing to inflict is on someone else. What are YOU willing to do for your country? I’ll even start: let’s phase out the home mortgage interest deduction that has distorted the housing market for generations. Doing this would increase my tax bill. Also: eliminate the tax deduction for charitable gifts. Why should the national debt be raised simply because I give to my church? Without them, I would not be able to itemize my tax return, so all my other little deductions would go away too. Will you come along with me on those two?

    There was once a name for countries with low taxes and a low-cost do-nothing government: they were called “third world” countries.

  5. Robert Landers

    Robert Landers said, almost 4 years ago


    A very good post!!!!

  6. Bilword

    Bilword said, almost 4 years ago


  7. narrowminded

    narrowminded said, almost 4 years ago


    Your right, but let’s take this even farther. we must surrender all our money to the Govn., I mean it’s theirs anyway. You didn’t earn your paycheck, you drove on roads and used electricity and etc., your paycheck belongs to all of us. Anything that you used for a tax deduction is not yours, we all paid for them. Your house, your 401k, your kids, your business, your body if your deducted medical expenses, et al. The money you deprived us of by paying less in taxes must now be paid back so that everything is fair. It was selfish of you to keep more of the money we allowed you to earn, I mean, we permitted you to take.
    We must pool all our assets and divide it all out evenly, that’s the fair way to do this.
    We must forgive all debt, confiscate all precious metals, melt all the guns, relocate everyone into the cities to economize, provide an adequate sized living space and a living wage and so on.
    We have to accept the reality that we are nothing more than taxpayers, here to support this new great and wonderfully fair society.. Our great purpose in life is to provide revenue to support our comrades, I mean, for those less fortunate. We must make everyone understand that all we have is owned by the people, is for the people and must be surrendered for use by the people. It is selfish and greedy and unpatriotic to think or believe otherwise.
    A true and great morality is here. Trying to pay less in taxes is a sin against the people, willing to pay more is righteousness. Believing in personal property rights is a sin against your neighbor for he/she may have less than you and that’s not fair, outcomes must be equal. This new morality must be enforced legislatively, our great provider must make things fair.
    The enlightenment of Matrix consciousness must be accepted. It will be law, it will be enforced, you will submit. It’s only fair.
    The New American prosperity.

  8. Respectful Troll

    Respectful Troll said, almost 4 years ago

    @Doughfoot- Great insights and well stated opinion. Much appreciated.
    @Masterskrain- Wabbit season! Thank you for the laugh.
    @Narrowminded- the money doesn’t belong to the government. But the government does decide the value of money vs. the value of the services for which it is exchanged. I disagree with most of your post, even if you weren’t being sarcastic, but on this point, part of the reason for our financial crisis is we have placed value on services that provide no product. Currency trading for instance. People are using fancy algorithms and powerful computers to make bets on what the value of the yen vs the dollar vs the euro vs etc etc etc. Money is made but at the end of the day, what was created? Wealth created for wealth’s sake is useless. You can’t eat it, you can’t drink it, you can’t wear it…. Money is great. You can get people to jump through hoops and compete to be the one who kills for you if you have enough of it. But when the storms hit, or disasters strike, you have a pocket full of paper and numbers in a bank representing more of the same. A bar of gold won’t buy you a single bottle of water if it’s the only water for the next day or two.
    We need to put value on real things.
    People are real.
    & Happy Holidayze

  9. lafayetteann

    lafayetteann said, almost 4 years ago


    Doughfoot wins the comment thread!

  10. lafayetteann

    lafayetteann said, almost 4 years ago

    Ima, how’d you miss ditching the mortgage deduction? It benefits you so you want to keep it?

  11. lafayetteann

    lafayetteann said, almost 4 years ago


    Nice straw man you have there.

    Has anyone made that argument here, or are you indulging your secret fantasies?

  12. M Ster

    M Ster said, almost 4 years ago

    ConservGov quoted Obama talking about W in July 2008, 2 months before the financial meltdown. By Sept 30, 2009, which is when W’s last budget period ended, the debt was $11.9 trillion, up from $5.8 trillion on Sept 30, 2001. So Bush’s contribution was $6.1 trillion- more than doubling it.

  13. M Ster

    M Ster said, almost 4 years ago

    Ima, it is common knowledge that Obama budgeted for the wars. No need to “document” it. Just get your “news” from someplace other than Fox and Rush. It’s not our job to fill in your “voids”.

  14. ninety_nine_percent

    ninety_nine_percent said, almost 4 years ago

    It’s all downhill from here.

  15. ARodney

    ARodney said, almost 4 years ago


    Yep, and if he’d been able to end the Bush tax cuts he would have made a lot more progress.

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