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Tom Toles

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  1. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, almost 4 years ago

    the elephant only deals in bull.

  2. braindead08

    braindead08 GoComics PRO Member said, almost 4 years ago

    Many on there boards have challanged others to define what’s fair. It’s fair to say that it’s a pretty difficult task.
    However, it’s pretty to recognize some situations as UNfair. For example, Romney paying 13% on an income of $20 million, or whatever it was, is obviously unfair, even though it may not be illegal. The same is true of hedge funds paying little or nothing on incomes in the millions or tens of millions.
    A single person making $50,000 will pay about twice the percentage that Romney does. Payroll taxes + income taxes (no, they’re not zero) will take about 25% of that income. Call the tax anything you like, but the govt gets its 25%.
    I realize that it’s all nice and legal.
    If anyone wants to claim that this situation IS legal, please show your work. And remember that this example is for 2011, so the dreaded ACA taxes do not apply.

  3. Respectful Troll

    Respectful Troll said, almost 4 years ago

    If I recall the story correctly, a con man tricks a boy into trading the family cow- itself on the way to market because the family had no money- for “magic” beans. The beans end up actually being magical and this young man, born in poverty, climbs the highest heights, faces enormous challenges, and at the end of the day, makes life better for himself, his familiy, and by destroying a threat- his community. Sounds like “the American Dream”.
    As one who feels the current republican party is made up of plutocrats who are more interested in protecting the wealthy than lifting the poor and middle class to a better place, it amuses me to see the “con man” trying to give Jack the cow back. Obama took the Republicans beans- Romney care became Obama care, the Dream Act became an executive order permitting children raised in our nation a path to citizenship, etc.- and despite unprecedented obstructionism, started the slow climb out of the muck he inherited as President. There’s still a long way to go, and in our story, we have yet to face and overcome the dangers to come, but at least we are making the effort and climbing.
    Now if we can just keep anyone from cutting down the tree while we’re still climbing. And sadly, we have too many in politics willing to do harm to protect donors and dogmas.

  4. ScullyUFO

    ScullyUFO said, almost 4 years ago

    @Respectful Troll

    Which story was found in the “Fairy Tale” section of the library.

  5. Chillbilly

    Chillbilly said, almost 4 years ago

    You’re making a classic simpleton’s argument. Nice job.
    A family living in most parts of the US can barely live off $50,000 as it is. Take away $6,500 and you create a crisis and undermine a struggling family and you’re taking someone on the cusp of public assistance and knocking them over the edge.
    On the other hand, ANYONE can live lavishly off $17,400,000. Take away $2,600,000 and you create a temper tantrum and motivation to lobby the government using the millions they still have.
    People who are willing to sit in their mansions and watch their neighboring communities collapse around them because they feel unaccountable to the workers, communities, governments and public infrastructure that made them rich are the worst kind of traitors and fiends.

  6. CasualBrowser

    CasualBrowser said, almost 4 years ago

    Are you trying to say that all Americans should pay the same dollar amount in taxes? If so, how do you see that as being fair, much less practical? If not, what did your last post mean?

  7. ARodney

    ARodney said, almost 4 years ago

    Ima believes that the rich need more, the poor need less. He’s a conservative, and they’ve been winning that war for the past thirty years. Anyone who truly believes that “all men are created equal” would be very leery of dynastic wealth, but people like Ima truly believe that the rich are better people.

  8. Simon_Jester

    Simon_Jester said, almost 4 years ago

    Lemme tell you why….

    20% of the income of a billionaire means having to wait until next year to afford that private island

    20% of the income of the working poor means having to wait until next year to afford DENTAL work

  9. Simon_Jester

    Simon_Jester said, almost 4 years ago

    And how did the Koch brothers get their money?

    Or Sheldon Adelson

  10. furnituremaker

    furnituremaker said, almost 4 years ago

    self employed middle-class taxes: withholding:33.3%%
    SS 11% sales tax(here is 10%) gasoline tax almost 50 5ents
    per gallon . or 15%…comes to approx..70…???

  11. CasualBrowser

    CasualBrowser said, almost 4 years ago

    “We should all pay the same %age—why is that not fair, Browser?”
    Two replies H:
    1) Does your above comment mean that you support raising the % on the wealthy? Or lowering it on the not-so-wealthy?
    2) I believe that the wealthier should pay a higher percentage of their income (TRUE income, not parsing it into different classes of income) for three reasons: A) The richer a person is, the more access they have to government. They’re able to hire people to craft legislation and lobby before public servants, without having to put themselves at an inconvenience. The poor, on the other hand, have to take time out of their lives to try to make their case, often travelling great distances just to be heard once by their federal representatives. The higher taxes are a type of surcharge for the short-cut that exists for the rich. B) Paying a larger pecentage is less of a burden on wealthier individuals than poorer. A person making $22,000/year giving up 20% of his/her pay has less ability to pay for needs than a person making $250,000/year paying 30%. C) The services that government provides benefit the rich more than they do the poor. Governmental programs such as food stamps and Medicaid do little more than keep the poor alive and healthy (usually), but our military and public transportation infrastructure make large-scale commerce available to monied interests at the lowest cost. Such benefits should be paid for, no?

  12. mikefive

    mikefive said, almost 4 years ago

    I don’t think I’ve ever seen so many expound so vociferously about wealth but have never availed themselves of the knowledge to gain wealth on even a small scale. And if they did, would they voluntarily give up all but $50,000 a year for the benefit of society? Or all but $100,000.

  13. lonecat

    lonecat said, almost 4 years ago


    I don’t see that anyone has suggested that the rich give up all but $50,000 — I have seen a suggestion that someone who makes $200,000,000 might be able to give up $100,000,000 and not suffer too much.

  14. lonecat

    lonecat said, almost 4 years ago


    I don’t know what you mean by “wealth on even a small scale” — is that like being a little bit pregnant? My wealth is certainly on a small scale. But it’s enough for me, and I don’t see any reason to envy those with more. I’m sure I could have earned more money, but I have different interests. To me what matters is understanding music and literature, and I will spend time doing that rather than leveraging companies — whatever that means. I am happy to pay my taxes — at a higher rate in Canada than you pay in the US — but then again, I get guaranteed health care.

  15. zekedog55

    zekedog55 GoComics PRO Member said, almost 4 years ago


    Looks as if Howie has “exited the sandbox”.

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