Don’t worry, The Democrats in the Senate will be divided amongst themselves and the Republicans will get their agenda passed. They are not like the Republicans who with very few exceptions said “NO!” to everything. The only thing standing in their way is Obama and they were already talking of impeachment proceedings.
Oh I hope the R’s start impeachment proceedings against Obama…there’s nothing that will turn the independent voters away from the Republican Party quicker or more thoroughly.
I’m not convinced the Republicans will get their agenda passed. Most of the nay-sayers are still there; they don’t control the Senate, the tea-partiers are not aligned with the GOP, and they have a motive to continue saying NO until 2012 to block anything else Obama wants to do.
If they try to initiate impeachment proceedings, let us remind them that Bush – who had a lot more reason to be impeached than mere spite – was not impeached, because Nancy Pelosi took that off the table.
And the GOP claims the Democrats weren’t reaching out…
A “difference of opinion” is actually positive when it stimulates thought and discussion. The radical right unwavering obstructionism since Newt got his votes and “contract ON America”, backed by right-wing propaganda from a nearly total control of the “Main Stream Media” by conservative corporate ownership, has NOT been positive.
Render unto corporations that which is corporate, but the “privatization” of government, and the turning over of the government to banks, and corporate interests is well, fascism, period. THAT is what the people of America, just like Italy, fail to comprehend. Our national debt is to foreign powers, but has been run up by mismanagement with regard to “for Americans” by our corporate backstabbers. When American corporations again start employing AMERICANS– they will BE “American”.
The American government is in the best position it can be in. We saw what happens when Republicans had all three, and we saw what happened when the Democrats had all three…one left a mess, the other added to the mess…and both left the people angry enough to give them the boot. They deserved it each time.
Part of the founding fathers’ genious was to divide the government’s power within itself and force the parts to compete so that one faction couldn’t run off with all the power. It was a genious system and it works well…until any one faction becomes large enough to have all three parts…then the system breaks down like we have seen.
A house divided cannot stand because its division within it weakens it. Our federal government has far too much power and has stepped way out of its legal bounds. It needed to be weakened.
@motivemagus: sadly, it seems a disingenuous game of musical chairs from both sides.
It would be both appropriate and civil for the HOUSE dems to hang out the “Do Not Disturb” sign and let the new majority advance some leadership ideas and court their support.
More likely, in a dangerously long recession, both sides will play chicken (OK, dead chicken) hoping the other side takes the heat for the last period of no growth before the upturn.
The Stewart rally had its inanities, but they’re to be credited for pointing out that the grownups have historically inhabited the center, and that it was the fringers’ burden to show they were pertinent. The cable industry has sold us on believing that we HAVE to choose between extremes because good sense is boring and they can’t use it to sell Viagra.
If the corporations are really in charge, then we’re no longer a republic anyway, we’re an oligarchy. If those folks at the rallies want someone to “take our country back” from, I’d suggest Boeing, and Northrup Grumman, and Blackwater, and United Healthcare, and Cygna, and Oracle, and General Dynamics, and KBR, and BP, and Exxon, and AIG, and Citi, and Capital One, and Goldman Sachs, and Cargill, and Chevron, and Constellation Energy, and Dow Chemical (yes, they’re back) and Dole, and FreedomWorks, and GE, and … well, you get the picture.
The victory of many TEA party and Republican candidates moved the party to the right and with the defeat of many blue dogs and Democratic moderates the Democrats have moved to the left. Thus compromise in the house will become more difficult.
Many Democratic senators up for election in 2012 come from red states. There a compromise is more possible. But of course what will Obama do.
BTW, I looked up elitist in the dictionary and it said see Billdog.
Au contraire! I think, for the American gov’t, it’s best when the Presidency and the Congress are of opposing parties. This way, neither side gets to ramrod through a bunch of laws without having the other side analyze it.
grapfhics over 13 years ago
interesting perspective
Simon_Jester over 13 years ago
You’re about ten years too late.
cdward over 13 years ago
This has been a house divided for a very long time.
Simon_Jester over 13 years ago
Yes. but the full phrase is, ‘a house divided against itself.”
Those last two words are a more recent phenomemon
Justice22 over 13 years ago
Don’t worry, The Democrats in the Senate will be divided amongst themselves and the Republicans will get their agenda passed. They are not like the Republicans who with very few exceptions said “NO!” to everything. The only thing standing in their way is Obama and they were already talking of impeachment proceedings.
Simon_Jester over 13 years ago
Oh I hope the R’s start impeachment proceedings against Obama…there’s nothing that will turn the independent voters away from the Republican Party quicker or more thoroughly.
The American people want bread….not a circus
tomcib over 13 years ago
Between O-bo and the tea baggers, that’s why I’m the 21st Century version of Philip Nolan.
Motivemagus over 13 years ago
I’m not convinced the Republicans will get their agenda passed. Most of the nay-sayers are still there; they don’t control the Senate, the tea-partiers are not aligned with the GOP, and they have a motive to continue saying NO until 2012 to block anything else Obama wants to do. If they try to initiate impeachment proceedings, let us remind them that Bush – who had a lot more reason to be impeached than mere spite – was not impeached, because Nancy Pelosi took that off the table. And the GOP claims the Democrats weren’t reaching out…
Dtroutma over 13 years ago
A “difference of opinion” is actually positive when it stimulates thought and discussion. The radical right unwavering obstructionism since Newt got his votes and “contract ON America”, backed by right-wing propaganda from a nearly total control of the “Main Stream Media” by conservative corporate ownership, has NOT been positive.
Render unto corporations that which is corporate, but the “privatization” of government, and the turning over of the government to banks, and corporate interests is well, fascism, period. THAT is what the people of America, just like Italy, fail to comprehend. Our national debt is to foreign powers, but has been run up by mismanagement with regard to “for Americans” by our corporate backstabbers. When American corporations again start employing AMERICANS– they will BE “American”.
dshepard over 13 years ago
The American government is in the best position it can be in. We saw what happens when Republicans had all three, and we saw what happened when the Democrats had all three…one left a mess, the other added to the mess…and both left the people angry enough to give them the boot. They deserved it each time.
Part of the founding fathers’ genious was to divide the government’s power within itself and force the parts to compete so that one faction couldn’t run off with all the power. It was a genious system and it works well…until any one faction becomes large enough to have all three parts…then the system breaks down like we have seen.
A house divided cannot stand because its division within it weakens it. Our federal government has far too much power and has stepped way out of its legal bounds. It needed to be weakened.
seriocomix over 13 years ago
@motivemagus: sadly, it seems a disingenuous game of musical chairs from both sides.
It would be both appropriate and civil for the HOUSE dems to hang out the “Do Not Disturb” sign and let the new majority advance some leadership ideas and court their support.
More likely, in a dangerously long recession, both sides will play chicken (OK, dead chicken) hoping the other side takes the heat for the last period of no growth before the upturn.
The Stewart rally had its inanities, but they’re to be credited for pointing out that the grownups have historically inhabited the center, and that it was the fringers’ burden to show they were pertinent. The cable industry has sold us on believing that we HAVE to choose between extremes because good sense is boring and they can’t use it to sell Viagra.
If the corporations are really in charge, then we’re no longer a republic anyway, we’re an oligarchy. If those folks at the rallies want someone to “take our country back” from, I’d suggest Boeing, and Northrup Grumman, and Blackwater, and United Healthcare, and Cygna, and Oracle, and General Dynamics, and KBR, and BP, and Exxon, and AIG, and Citi, and Capital One, and Goldman Sachs, and Cargill, and Chevron, and Constellation Energy, and Dow Chemical (yes, they’re back) and Dole, and FreedomWorks, and GE, and … well, you get the picture.
Libertarian1 over 13 years ago
The victory of many TEA party and Republican candidates moved the party to the right and with the defeat of many blue dogs and Democratic moderates the Democrats have moved to the left. Thus compromise in the house will become more difficult.
Many Democratic senators up for election in 2012 come from red states. There a compromise is more possible. But of course what will Obama do.
BTW, I looked up elitist in the dictionary and it said see Billdog.
Motivemagus over 13 years ago
Interesting post, seriocomix. And I agree. (Also like the original Sluggo.)
alan.gurka over 13 years ago
Au contraire! I think, for the American gov’t, it’s best when the Presidency and the Congress are of opposing parties. This way, neither side gets to ramrod through a bunch of laws without having the other side analyze it.