The problem is always that so many amendments are “poison pills” and not even their sponsors actually BELIEVE in the amendments they are proposing! Just the usual Congressional gamesmanship and bleep.
If you want to know why all the amendments are being attached to the bill to kill it, just follow the money. There are plenty of businesses in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California that thrive on ultra-cheap labor. These businesses lobby Congress to keep their sweet deal going and prevent immigration reform. Here are two reports from NPR from both sides of the issue. The second one is very informative.
Yes, but few bills get over 100 amendments from the same senator who is not even planning to vote for the bill, but hopes that some of his terrible amendments will pass and bring the bill down since he doesn’t have the votes to kill it on his own.
It seems that other than actors and comedians (good ones at that) Canadians don’t seem to be fleeing their medical system, or “poverty” to rush south to the States and illegal emigration from their “confiscatory government” and social structure.
Considering that Mexico once owned most of the American southwest, until the late 1800’s in fact, or that “Hispanics” were in the southern “U.S.”, including Florida and Louisiana, for some 200 years before the “Anglos” arrived, all the flap and arrogance of the “Anglo” population does seem a bit overboard with respect to history.
I must admit that I see English as the nation’s language, and the bilingual printing, especially of driver’s license tests or other government documents DOES bother me, I still think that most Americans should at least be familiar with more than one language, be it German, Russian, Chinese, OR Spanish. Yes, we are a “mixed culture”, but why don’t we see printings in German or Cherokee, or Mandan, Sioux, or in the Pacific Northwest-Russian, to reflect linguistic history and fact?
The substance of the bill doesn’t matter. Amendments, no amendments. Good for the country, bad for the country, none of that matters.-The only thing that matters is that it, like everything else, is a Defeat For Obama. -Obama wants immigration reform. Therefore, Republicans need to submit hundreds of amendments and then filibuster the result. If any of the amendments is supported by Obama, those amendments must also be filibustered.-A Defeat For Obama is all Republicans care about.
ConserveGov almost 11 years ago
Or we could just “pass it so we can find out what’s in it”.
Doughfoot almost 11 years ago
Actually, the image is a pretty good representation of the way a lot of things go through congress, or fair to go through congress.
Justice22 almost 11 years ago
Why don’t we see anything about the illegal immigrants besides the Hispanics?
magicwalnut Premium Member almost 11 years ago
@Onguard…exceedingly humorous! Well done. Does Congress go down with the bill?
Godfreydaniel almost 11 years ago
The problem is always that so many amendments are “poison pills” and not even their sponsors actually BELIEVE in the amendments they are proposing! Just the usual Congressional gamesmanship and bleep.
Richard Howland-Bolton Premium Member almost 11 years ago
But carrying other people’s luggage through customs is a big no-no!
twhalen almost 11 years ago
If you want to know why all the amendments are being attached to the bill to kill it, just follow the money. There are plenty of businesses in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California that thrive on ultra-cheap labor. These businesses lobby Congress to keep their sweet deal going and prevent immigration reform. Here are two reports from NPR from both sides of the issue. The second one is very informative.
http://www.npr.org/2013/04/10/176677299/construction-booming-in-texas-but-many-workers-pay-dearly
http://www.npr.org/2013/04/11/176777498/texas-contractors-say-playing-by-the-rules-doesnt-pay
ARodney almost 11 years ago
Yes, but few bills get over 100 amendments from the same senator who is not even planning to vote for the bill, but hopes that some of his terrible amendments will pass and bring the bill down since he doesn’t have the votes to kill it on his own.
Dtroutma almost 11 years ago
It seems that other than actors and comedians (good ones at that) Canadians don’t seem to be fleeing their medical system, or “poverty” to rush south to the States and illegal emigration from their “confiscatory government” and social structure.
Considering that Mexico once owned most of the American southwest, until the late 1800’s in fact, or that “Hispanics” were in the southern “U.S.”, including Florida and Louisiana, for some 200 years before the “Anglos” arrived, all the flap and arrogance of the “Anglo” population does seem a bit overboard with respect to history.
I must admit that I see English as the nation’s language, and the bilingual printing, especially of driver’s license tests or other government documents DOES bother me, I still think that most Americans should at least be familiar with more than one language, be it German, Russian, Chinese, OR Spanish. Yes, we are a “mixed culture”, but why don’t we see printings in German or Cherokee, or Mandan, Sioux, or in the Pacific Northwest-Russian, to reflect linguistic history and fact?
Hawthorne almost 11 years ago
Just like the US Patriot Act …
braindead Premium Member almost 11 years ago
The substance of the bill doesn’t matter. Amendments, no amendments. Good for the country, bad for the country, none of that matters.-The only thing that matters is that it, like everything else, is a Defeat For Obama. -Obama wants immigration reform. Therefore, Republicans need to submit hundreds of amendments and then filibuster the result. If any of the amendments is supported by Obama, those amendments must also be filibustered.-A Defeat For Obama is all Republicans care about.