Ted Rall for February 29, 2012
Transcript:
When civilization began, art was intricate and crafted with care. The medium was basic. Artists were rich. Owners of quarries were poor. (Nice art. I'll pay you anything you want.) Guys too dumb to make art grabbed control of the media. Artists had to suck up to them. (No one buys art from artists anymore. Now they all come to my gallery.) Artists lower power and money. Media barons became rich. (Nice web aggregation site. I'll do anything if you let me be on it.) Media owners spent billions to develop new exquisite devices to distribute art and culture. When civilization ended, media was gorgeous. Art was dead. (Woman: Fart!)
aguirra3 about 12 years ago
A comic ARTist speaks…
doc white about 12 years ago
Another gooder spellar lick me? Mlore better,gooder.
doc white about 12 years ago
Say,I am archaic. Thjank you very much..
SwimsWithSharks about 12 years ago
Ted,
Chinese artist Zhang Xiaogang had a piece sell for $10M last year. Zhang Xiaogang is alive.
Do work of that quality, and you might have a valid complaint. Until then, be happy you can sell some books with your work in it, and be happy you’ve found media channels such as this to advertise your work.
SwimsWithSharks about 12 years ago
That’s a hilarious notion, that pre-historic artists were venerated and owned a seller’s market.
ScullyUFO about 12 years ago
Marshall McLuhan, what’re ya doin’?
fritzoid Premium Member about 12 years ago
“’Art’ died when talentless hacks like Andy Warhol could sell pictures of soup cans for Millions of dollars!"
Warhol was hardly ‘talentless’, and he was more a symptom of the commoditization of Art than a cause (well, maybe “catalyst” is a better word). I think perhaps Pop Art should have followed the arc of Dada (with which it shares much), though. Do something revolutionary, piss the traditionalists off but change the way we think about Art, and then disappear. Instead, 50 years later we’re stuck with Jeff Koons.
fritzoid Premium Member about 12 years ago
“Jeff Koons?”
If you have to ask, you’re better off. But if you don’t like Warhol, you wouldn’t like Jeff Koons either.
Lavocat about 12 years ago
But at least you can watch civilization die on beautiful media! And isn’t the medium the message?
SwimsWithSharks about 12 years ago
No I meant the piece sold for $10M USD.
For a living artist, that is significant. It points a giant mistake Ted Rall makes in his twisted history. Great art is valued in today’s modern marketplace.
In the echelon of great living artists, I’m happy to give Ted Rall some room, but I don’t see his complaints as valid. Sure there are lots of great artists who don’t achieve commercial success. It’s ALWAYS been like that.
fritzoid Premium Member about 12 years ago
The difference between today and, say, 100 years ago is Van Gogh. Nobody wants to be the guy who passed on snapping up “Starry Night” for the price of a dinner.
1) Every artist who can’t sell a piece believes he (or she) is the next Van Gogh.2) The next Van Gogh may well be an artist who cannot sell a piece.3) Nobody TODAY can tell who the next Van Gogh will be; not the gallery owners, not the speculators (excuse me, “collectors”), not the critics, not the Art Historians. But if somebody gets a REPUTATION as “the next Van Gogh”, people will beat a path to his (or her) door and throw money at him (or her).
You may be buying Microsoft stock out of Bill Gates’ garage, or you may be investing your life savings in Beanie Babies. There’s no way to tell, and that makes people crazy.
Check out the movie “[untitled]” for a good portrayal of how nobody knows anything anymore when it comes to “Art.”
walruscarver2000 about 12 years ago
According to one of my teachers back in the day, Goethe proposed a simple test for all art. 1) What was he trying to do? 2) Did he do it? 3) Was it worth doing? By that standard Warhol fails as do most of the other trash painters.
fritzoid Premium Member about 12 years ago
As much as I respect Goethe in general, I have to take his pronouncements with a grain of salt, if only because in Wilhelm Meister’s Apprenticeship he lays out his (Goethe’s) ideas for how Shakespeare’s Hamlet, Prince of Denmark might be “improved.”
Tastes and mores change. Not all art is “timeless”, nor need it be. Given Warhol’s interest in the disposable, the ephemeral, and the “current”, he might be wryly amused to consider that his own works have outlasted the era in which (and for which) they were created.
SwimsWithSharks about 12 years ago
Art critics: