Ted Rall for January 24, 2024

I am NOT pro Hamas but Israel is not without sin. A pox on both their houses.

25k dead Gazans: Israeli propaganda in super-overdrive.

But, but, Hamas committed WORSE atrocities, right?

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/s

More to come.

As NeoconMan said back in October, in a fight between two rabid dogs, there is no point in choosing sides.

Netenyahu is going to be the next hitler

We give Israel 10 million a day and all the bombs they can drop.

Looks like Hamas should not have started this war. As usual, the loser loses more.

Simple math or simplistic?

The irony, of course, is that in their drive to “Eliminate Hamas,” which in itself is an ill-defined goal, they are turning a lot of the Palestinians in Gaza TOWARD Hamas, which will make the area even harder to control for Israel down the road.

Yes, Hamas started this. Their actions were reprehensible, but if Israel expects to coop the Palestinian people up in what amounts to prison camps indefinitely they should also expect that those people will eventually rebel against it. Yes, Hamas’ stated goal is to eliminate Israel. But Israel, seemingly, has not done anything to make them think they’d be treated fairly any other way.

What is needed is either a separate state for the Palestinians, or a secular Israel where Jews and Muslims (who had been there for centuries) are equals and what amounts to two branches of the same religion get along.

US politicians: red means stop, green means go.

With rare exceptions, US politicians are all supporting Israel. So why do voters keep extending their time in office?

Why does Hamas build 400+ miles of tunnels in a territory only 25 miles long? How much money, and how many workers were involved with the tunnel construction? Why did Bibi fund Hamas? Why have the Palestinians rejected the various peace processes over the years? Why has Israel treated the Palestinians like dirt for decades? Why have the conservative Jewish religious nuts continued to settle the West Bank? Why have conservatives in Iran funded terrorism? Why do the Sunnis hate the Shia?

There is so much back and forth evil here that parsing through the facts and the history makes your head spin. I think the root of all this stuff is religion. Faith in things unseen, unheard, and spun out of revelations that turn into dogma.

It seems that violence and religion are intimately connected. As to territorial disputes, various species of hominids have been invading and seizing territory for tens of thousands of years. It’s only when the species became so successful that territorial claims have shrunk. There’s no region across the globe where territory can be held for long in the modern era without at least tacit consent from the inhabitants. America simply killed most of the North American aboriginal inhabitants, “solving” that problem. Other places like Ukraine will not go gently into the hands of Moscow, even if Putin somehow “wins” his war. Notably, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan have all reverted to their own inhabitants in control.

But the Israelis and Palestinians both inhabit the same territory, so separating them is like trying to separate cream from coffee.

Israel has to make a choice about how to live with its Palestinians and the Palestinians have to figure out how to live with the Jews. But that’s not bloody likely, is it?

There’s plenty of blame to go around, Ted. The parties are both at fault.

collateral damage

Ted, people like you are beating the poll #’s right out of this dead horse.

Ted loves Hamas, and only believes Hamas when they publish the numbers killed in war they started. Right Ted? Hamas lover?

Ted needs to move to Gaza so he can be free to publish what he wants, OOPs in Gaza if you don’t publish pro-Hamas they kill you.

War is hell, the Government of Gaza started this war only they can end it, release all the hostages at once and join the modern world

Let’s go back to the summer Olympics of 1972. And the orchestrater of that event gets a Nobel Peace prize!!!

Elections have consequences.

Quite a scoreboard you have presented here Mr. Rall. Do you think the Israelis will stop killing Palestinians when the number reaches six million and call the conflict a draw?

That was my thought when I read about posting pictures of kidnapped Israelis, 40 pictures of Palestinian children killed by IDF bombs for every kidnapped Israeli. The problem is it wouldn’t fit on a telephone pole.

None of the “greens” would have happened were it not for the “reds”, Ted.

Never start a fight you can’t win

If Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, et al win, we all lose.

maybe ,, but if you didnt take the 4 red poster you wouldn’t have all the green ones… specially when the ones that did say they’ll keep taking them and the rest of them celebrate it! so there’s that

Hamas does not care about human rights, Hamas does not care about Palestinian lives. Hamas only cares about Hamas and their goal of destroying Israel. It is considered a war crime to use civilians as human shields. It is considered a war crime to use schools, hospitals and mosques and the like as military launching sites. Hamas does all this and more. Of course in the defense of being attacked and in the process of the NECESSARY routing out of the evil that is Hamas there will be casualties. To do otherwise is to allow Hamas to rearm, reorganize and resume their attacks which they have pledged to do. If you want to end civilian deaths, Hamas needs to immediately lay down their arms, release their hostages, turn over those who perpetuated the atrocities to international justice and recognize Israel’s right to exist as a nation. With the removal of the knife at Israel’s throat, then the pressure is all on Israel to recognize a Palestinian State and on both parties to find a way to live in peace. The fact that Mr. Rall and all the rest of you putting pressure on Israel and not Hamas is really an admission that Hamas doesn’t care and won’t respond to pressure the way a democracy will. Total, unconditional surrender must be the only outcome.

Yes, the kill ratio is about 20 to 1, which I’ve mentioned before. That ratio is pretty long standing, and seems to be an Israeli goal.

Hamas and Israel can both pound sand.

Israel’s policy has always been “We will out-crazy you. What you do to us, we will return to you a thousand-fold”. Trouble is, the “crazy” ceiling can be reached pretty quickly, and then there’s nowhere to go but down.

The more I look at this toon, Ted, the more perfect it looks as a summary of the position. I don’t believe even you could have improved it.

Regardless of what else you do, I fervently hope that you make a Louvre-sized version of this one, casein on cementboard maybe, or hardboard, and let your agent shlep it around, MOMO as the first stop perhaps, but every good venue in the Northeast at a minimum, DC for absolutely sure.