Matt Davies for November 20, 2023

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    aristoclesplato9  6 months ago

    High costs are not a concern when you are spending other people’s money.

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    KFischer1  6 months ago

    I don’t know what he’s trying to say here.

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    David_the_CAD  6 months ago

    The first of anything cost a lot more, but the more that are made, and the more people that make them, the cost goes down.

    When I bought my first CFL lightbulb I paid almost $15 for it. My first LED lightbulb was around the same cost when I about that. Now you can buy them around $2 per bulb.

    When home computers first came out they were over $2000, now you can get a much better computer for a couple of hundred dollars.

    It is called economy of scale. Not doing anything is called recipe for disaster.

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    gigagrouch  6 months ago

    What’s a higher cost? Building renewable energy infrastructure ASAPor sitting on our hands and await the worst to deal with the aftermath?

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    gigagrouch  6 months ago

    Pay now or pay astronimically more later?

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    Havel  6 months ago

    “New onshore wind now costs about $46 per megawatt-hour, while large-scale solar plants cost $45 per megawatt-hour. In comparison, new coal-fired plants cost $74 per MWh, while gas plants are $81 per MWh” (Bloomberg, 6/30/22)

    That meme can disappear like a fart in the wind.
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    WilliamMedlock  6 months ago

    The “2” is supposed to be a subscript.

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    walfishj  6 months ago

    Er, have you factored in the cost of doing nothing and letting the planet get destroyed? I thought not.

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    bbenoit  6 months ago

    So, the higher seas and stronger winds we’re seeing due to fossil fuel driven climate change is damaging windmills, so we should stop building windmills and further degrade our one-and-only planet so some windbag doesn’t have to “gasp” change their ways??

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    GreenT267  6 months ago

    We just can’t seem to adjust to the idea that it is possible to have more than one way to generate energy. Originally, we burned wood. Then we discovered coal and it mostly replaced wood — possibly partly because we had cut down a majority of our forests making wood more difficult to come by.

    Then gas came along to compete with coal. Coal was lucky because we discovered/invented things that coal couldn’t fuel easily, so it wasn’t totally driven underground and it didn’t have to work hard to stay important. [ No need to work much on quality; no need to improve work and safety conditions — just add some modern equipment to keep it relatively cheap for the consumer. And continue the mantra about workers losing their jobs.]

    And now the fossil fuel industry is on tap to have a portion of their market replaced by wind and solar and geothermal. Energy sources that aren’t likely to run out. And people are working hard to improve their tools and techniques. Unlike the fossil fuel industry which never seemed to care how they produced their product as long as it made money. [ E.g., their methods of extraction are inefficient, full of leaks and spills and ‘acceptable’ levels of air/soil/water contamination] . And we have invented / discovered thousands of uses for their products which can’t really be duplicated by anything else [yet]. So it’s not as if wind/solar/geothermal are going to put them out of business.

    Wind/solar/geothermal energy production have vastly improved over the last few decades and they will continue to do so. Research continues. Sure, they cost a lot now - but those costs will go down a costs always do when demand picks up. And, if you think about the costs that we all incur every day as a byproduct of fossil fuels- medical costs for asthma, various cancers, pollution cleanup costs, as well as the costs of trying to address climate change issues — it’s much more expensive to NOT invest in alternative energy sources.

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    GiantShetlandPony  6 months ago

    Doubt the costs are actually higher than anything else. The definitely need to add heat sensors that either automatically shut them down should the bearings fail and cause fires, or at least notify a central office to allow them to shut it down.

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    cracker65  6 months ago

    Coal fired plants kill over a thousand people a year from the pollution. How much is a human life worth to the robber barons?

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    kaffekup   6 months ago

    So, how much do drilling, fracking, building pipelines, cleaning up pipeline spills, refineries, tanker ships, and tank trucks cost?

    Or do we just look at the cost of building and maintaining renewables? I doubt they collapse that easily, and once built, don’t run out of their power sources, wind, sun and geothermal.

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    Mostly Water Premium Member 6 months ago

    Yuck. You lost me on this one, Matt. Where are you getting your information, Fox News?

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    Jack7528  6 months ago

    High cost anywhere. Take the land for windmills less land for crops and cows, sheep and fruit.

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    kballweg Premium Member 6 months ago

    Not to mention the high cost of subsidies for big oil and gas industries. 5.9 TRILLION in 2022. We’re paying them to make billions in profits while making the planet uninhabitable. Wind farms are able to withstand hurricane level winds in the North Sea and not fall apart, so what’s your point Matt?

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    Ammo is busy training in the hills Premium Member 6 months ago

    Save the Whales.

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    steveconkey2003  6 months ago

    Don’t forget the thousands of dead birds.

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    Jane b Lee  6 months ago

    Wind mill at sea break and kill Wales and fish. They cost more than the electricity than they produce. Wind mills on land are no better they kill thousands of birds. And cost more than the electricity. Another bad idea from so called environmentalist.

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